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rockyracoon, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

I spent a lot of time playing Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts alone and online with friends. A lot of people I’ve talked to view it negatively and are surprised when I say it was one of my favorite 360 titles. It’s one of the main reasons I want to try out Xbox 360 emulation.

MrScottyTay,

I’m in the same block built boat as you. I always vehemently defend this game since finding out the general gaming public don’t like it.

rockyracoon,

The way I see it, more engines for us!

Odo, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

E.T.

Yes really. I played it all the time as a kid and didn’t think it was any more difficult or abstract than the rest of the 2600’s catalogue. Granted, we kept the manual, which made a huge difference in understanding and enjoying its bizarre logic, but still. I had no idea it was so hated until at least a decade later.

vrighter,

it was actually way ahead of its time, for a game. One small bug (the workaround for which was in the manual) ruined its reputation. But I genuinely think it was a good game.

Also written in 6 weeks by one guy. Freaking impressive

tiramichu,

What was the bug and workaround? :)

vrighter,

when climbing out of the pit, it was very easy to immediately fall back down (due to the pixel-perfect collision detection).

And here is an excerpt from the manual: “Even experienced extraterrestrials sometimes have difficulty levitating out of wells. Start to levitate E.T. by first pressing the controller button and then pushing your Joystick forward. E.T.'s neck will stretch as he rises to the top of the well (see E.T. levitating in Figure 1). Just when he reaches the top of the well and the scene changes to the planet surface (see Figure 2), STOP! Do not try to keep moving up. Instead, move your Joystick right, left, or to the bottom. Do not try to move up, or E.T. might fall back into the well.”

tiramichu,

Wow yeah. That must have been a really infuriating gameplay issue, no wonder players were upset with it.

A shame the game was so rushed or I’m sure the dev would have fixed that in code.

vrighter,

he was forced to release it quickly to coincide with the film’s release. For comparison, it used to take a team of devs a couple of months to make a game. He had 6 weeks.

Also, if you read the manual, this essentially never happened to you. It was easy to avoid.

You also needed to read the manual. The game did stuff that other games at the time didn’t, for example, a contextual button. You couldn’t know what would happen unless you read the manual to learn what the icons meant. A lot of people never did and so decided that the game was bad.

andros_rex,

Yeah, I played it as a teenager on emulation and was pretty mystified at why it was considered so much worse than the other things available on the system. Why would people love Adventure but hate this?

vrighter,

i bought an original cartridge and played it on the vcs i iherited from dad

drmoose, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Most games that dont scale into 100+ hours. I never reach that point anyway.

Petros, do wolnyinternet w Marginalia - Sensowna alternatywa dla wyszukiwarki Google
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Renat, (edited ) do wolnyinternet w Marginalia - Sensowna alternatywa dla wyszukiwarki Google

Jeszcze używam wyszukiwarki do jednej rzeczy. Nie powiem jakiej, ale od jakiegoś czasu tylko Marginalia jest pod tym względem użyteczna. Google każe mi rozwiązywać reCaptcha, a nie chcę im szkolić AI klikając w obrazki.

https://szmer.info/pictrs/image/7955eb5e-67a5-4089-9272-14e68ce3c2e8.png

Brylant, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality

Greedfall

Coelacanth,
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Even though Greedfall is hardly a great game I think it has too much charm to really fit here. I found it too memorable to really be a “mediocre slop” contender.

Geth,

The developer, Spiders, seem to be experts at creating mediocre games with very small budgets, and again they didn’t quite have the money to take it all the way with greedfall, but they did make more than a mediocre game in my opinion. For me it was memorable enough unlike others mentioned in this thread.

Pogogunner, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality

Just Cause 3

Movement was more annoying than Just Cause 2

ICastFist,
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I really enjoyed 3 more than 2, despite never quite getting the hang of doing hook-gliding combos. Flying a heli with missiles in 2 was the game’s “I win” button, dodging AA missiles was pretty trivial, 3 doesn’t have anything as OP

Flamekebab, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

Godus.

I know lots of people hate it but taken in isolation it's okay. I found its aesthetics charming and its pace generally pretty chill. It wasn't good but it wasn't terrible. Low medium perhaps but I have comfortable memories of listening to an audiobook whilst playing it.

Coelacanth, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I said any Call of Duty from the past decade as answer to the original comment, and I still think that is a solid candidate. However, another game I played recently that qualifies I think is Sleeping Dogs. Perfectly cromulent 7/10 GTA clone but ultimately not pulling up any trees.

caut_R,

Sleeping Dogs is easily my fav GTA-esque game and I weep that there‘s no successor, to each their own

vaguerant, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality
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This is a tough question because it's like asking "What's the most forgettable game you've ever played?" I can remember some of the best and worst games I've ever played, but mediocre games are explicitly not interesting.

That said, the first one that came to mind for me was Starshot: Space Circus Fever for N64. It's just a very generic late-'90s collectathon platformer. It's hard to be mad at it, because it's not terrible or anything, there's just no reason to play it. If you've got an N64, there's Mario, Banjo, Rayman, even B- and C-tier stuff like Gex and Chameleon Twist. There's hidden gems like Space Station Silicon Valley or Rocket: Robot on Wheels.

That last one is the only reason I played Starshot, I saw it clearanced at a used game store and was like "Oh yeah, I remember hearing this game was good," but it turned out I was thinking of Rocket. That game actually is good, while Starshot is just fine.

P00ptart,

It also makes people say things are mid to them. Honestly, rdr2 was that way for me because I hated the pseudo-rpg elements. But long after I put it away, I started playing actual RPGs. So I may give it another shot, but I have so many on my to-do list.

Flamekebab,
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

An N64 game I've never heard of before? Mark it on the calendar because that hasn't happened in many a sparrow's moon.

burgerpocalyse, do games w Day 334 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

all i can say is I hope you enjoy Starfield more than I did

KeefChief13,

I was thinking the same thing

Xenny, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?

Kings quest 8. Universally panned as a “bad Kings quest game” and I agree, It’s a terrible entry to the kings quest series. But when you look at this quirky adventure game from a modern perspective you can see it was really ahead of it’s time. It has an unmatched vibe and atmosphere.

mohab, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality

Assault Spy comes to mind.

And Mad Max maybe?

Overspark,

Hell no, Mad Max was way more fun than it had any right to be. I’ll agree that on paper it didn’t look like anything special, with mechanics we’d seen lots of times in other games, but in practice everything came together as much more than the sum of it’s parts.

mohab,

Hmm… sure, but ima die on the hell Mad Max should be a linear game with sole focus on vehicular/melee combat. I don't really think it needs to be an open world game.

Overspark,

Fair, although it’s less open than it appears at first glance. The world is divided in parts that you unlock as the central story progresses, much like most RPGs.

caseofthematts,

I bought it quite cheap because it looked like a fun time, and have over the years since played through it 3 times. The gameplay mechanics are a blast.

lath, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality

Atlas Fallen. Having played it, all I can say is that it doesn’t elicit any heightened emotions from me.

esc27, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality

Avowed was very mid. I enjoyed it enough, but nothing about it was particularly brilliant or terrible.

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