I’m very confused… Before the steamdeck Alienware made steam boxes. We’re they good, meh. Would they sell like hot cakes today? Absolutely.
But calling a handheld PC a console is just weird. Nothing stops anyone from building a compact PC and just plugging it in to a tv… You could also just run steam os on it if you wanted to.
Yes. You can do that on PC. You can have steam run at startup andaunch straight into that one other mode it has. Or install steam os or bazzite etc. You don’t need a mouse and keyboard for a PC
The Steamdeck is as much of a PC as a PlayStation. As in yes they’re both PCs but specifically built for gaming. If you want to use them for other stuff you can but it’s not what most people buy them for. One runs BSD and the other Linux but the OS doesn’t determine what is and isn’t a PC. Your phone is a PC too. It’s an umbrella term.
Kind of tangential but I’ve always found the start of fallout 3 (the iconic scene where you exit the vault) to be a lesson in game design. Here’s a completely open world but I can guarantee in ten minutes you’ll be at the entrance of megaton. No direct prompting, just subtle framing and environmental clues.
I have definitely bonded with people over video games. Playing them together, or playing them apart but doing so physically side by side, talking about them… most social groups I’ve been, even when they were not formed around gaming at all, went and made a Minecraft server for us to play together. I think it is telling that the fastest way to get me to open a game and start playing is if my other friends are playing. I am younger than your generation, though, so I’m definitely not helping your argument for retro games specifically.
Online play has helped a lot for when I am physically separated from friends. Just hop in a game and voice chat, and play together anyways.
I played an earlier version of Baldur’s Gate 3 and encountered a bug where I couldn’t for the life of me figure out a way to progress without killing Karlach. I stopped playing that save-file, because I didn’t want to kill her. Now I’m going to revisit it after the big update from awhile back.
You can knock her out instead of killing her. You can then save her from execution in Act 2 to recruit her. She can even have a bit if a redemption arc, iirc.
There are some specific steps (knock her out before the hobgoblin boss, else she does not remain temporary hostile, and after you knock her out, you need to kill the other two bosses before the long rest, else she wake up and you need to knock her out again), but it’s feasible. There are a lot of YouTube video about it. She is in all my runs (she is one of the funniest companion), and I never killed the tielflings
Oh shit, I just killed her in my current playthrough because I thought it didn’t matter anyway. Which sucks. I really love her voice, and she has a fun arc.
The 80s had some great games. Donkey Kong. Pac-Man. Galaga and Galaxian. Super Mario Bros 1,2,3. Zelda 1 & 2. Contra, Castlevania, Megaman
But the 90s had Mario World and Mario Kart. Super Metroid. Link to the Past. Donkey Kong Country. Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time. Crash and Spyro. Sonic. Medal of Honor. Goldeneye. Half - Life.
I’d probably take the 90s slightly over the 80s. Heck even the 00s have Half-Life 2, the GTA series, the good Call of Duty’s and Halos. And the 2010s had RDR2 and GTAV.
2020s haven’t had any super great games yet though.
Its funny because I have no issue killing or robbing NPCs no matter how good or friendly they are. But the second any multiple choice response pops up, pictured below is me any time I hover over the rude answer.
Yup, this was me. I picked up Stellaris probably not even a year ago at this point. While not entirely friendly, I at least made peace with my neighbors during my first play through. And then for my second play through I pirated all the DLC because holy fucking shit that’s expensive. I ended up becoming the crisis, blew up some stars, and eventually the whole universe. Good times.
If you must know, I'm actually not a Mario Kart fan, played the older ones but haven't touched the series since DS. More of a Kirby Air Ride and F-Zero GX kinda guy. But I can still understand the appeal well enough to not post this kind of thinly veiled "I'm mad that other people like something I don't" thread.
I think people are very much taking this less as an “I’m curious, why do people find this fun? I want to understand” post, and more of a condescending “I think it’s not fun because I have taste and am presuming people who think it is fun do not until proven otherwise, now prove me otherwise” post. Some people, including me until I saw these comments, were seeing your post body that tells us why you don’t like the game less as sharing your own perspective and wanting someone to show you a bright side, and more as trying to denigrate people who see it as fun. I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I think you can reread your post body and see how people might interpret a far less curious, far more judgmental tone from it.
To actually answer your question: I played Mario Kart Wii mostly as kid against the computer and other people, and a few times as an adult against other people. I like to think I was good at the game, that skill mattered and it wasn’t random and unfair. I won almost every time both against the computer, and against other humans. So I just didn’t perceive the game as “mostly random and unfair.” (Although now that I think of it, when I had the option I’d usually switch all items to Strategic against the computer, eliminating a lot of the catch-up items, so perhaps I did perceive it initially and just removed it from my experience to the point I don’t remember it? Although when I played against other humans it was usually on their console at their place with their settings, which probably didn’t have it set to Strategic.) The catch-up mechanics could sink me if I made a mistake, but if I drove well the whole course I almost always came out in front. Perhaps you’re thinking of later editions that I never played and have no opinion of, or the computer plays badly and the people I played against were bad at the game?
I can understand why, but I wanted to hear their reasons for it.
You make it sound like people make a pros and cons list before deciding whether to like something or not. We don’t choose what to like. People clearly have fun playing Mario Kart, that’s it.
I was born in the same year, 1976, and I really don’t feel the same way. Pretty much every era has bangers and also really bad games.
I have really good memories from the '80s (games like Pitfall II or the MSX Konami games), the '90s (playing MUDs with my college pals, the classic SNES JRPGs like Chrono Trigger or the classic PC CRPGs like Baldur’s Gate and its ilk), the '00s (games like Silent Hill 2, Morrowind or GTA: San Andreas), the '10s (pretty much every FromSoft game from that decade, NieR:Automata or the Rocksteady Batman games) and the '20s (games like Elden Ring, Hades, etc.). And many more games I didn’t mention.
Some decades have been better than others, but there are incredible games in all of them.
Not really. I am just a bit younger, growing up between the 80s and 90s. I still play old games, only those that aged well though, but sometimes decades after their prime. I play new games a lot too. And games from any time in between, as long as they do something right.
And there are many, many games around which you can bond just as well as you could back then. Not even talking specifically about multiplayer games (which I don’t play very much at all) I’ve always been a fan of “co-piloting” games, just sharing the experience of playing, spectating, commenting around a game.
Some games are fantastic for this. Some games are rich enough that you can share your experience and discover other people do stuff completely differently. This sort of always existed (for example, what’s the right way to complete Legend of Zelda?), and this is still true even for somewhat simple games, but possibilities have only increased in range. I am pretty sure nobody plays a game like Rimworld or Tears of the Kingdom the same.
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