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Knitwear, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

With you on BotW. Love the dungeons, but in terms of the open world I never felt the oooh, the aaah, the escapism that everyone cooed about etc. Gliding was fun!

Maybe this is because I’ve never played a Zelda game before so I have no nostalgia attached to it?

avater,
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Maybe this is because I’ve never played a Zelda game before so I have no nostalgia attached to it?

Don’t know about that, because I very much grew up with Zelda for the Gameboy, SNES and of course N64 and I loved them all. Maybe it’s just Breath of the Wild…

automattable,

maybe this is because I’ve never played a Zelda game

Definitely not it. BotW is a great game, but it’s not a Zelda game. That’s my beef with it and TotK.

Donut,

BotW was a game that drew from its roots, the very first Zelda game on NES.

almar_quigley,

Yes but poorly. There are no real dungeons and the open world has maybe 5-6 enemies total, everything else is just a variation on color and strength. That’s a far cry from the original game.

Donut,

I agree that the mechanics and features are a mixed bag, but the core experience of exploration and freedom is what made Zelda, Zelda.

BotW also had like 12 unique enemies, excluding bosses and variations. It wasn’t a lot but 5-6 really doesn’t do it justice.

jacksilver,

So I was curious about this and looked it up and there are technically 8 regular enemy types (bokoblins, moblins, lizalfos, chuchu, keese, octoroks, wizzrobes, pebblits, lynel). There are then also the different types of guardians, 2 overworld bosses (Talus and Hinox, I don’t count Molduga), and the yiga.

Depending on how you cut it there are then 8 up to 13 overworld enemy types. However, the real issue is you typically only encounter 3 maybe 5 (bokoblins, moblins, lizalfos / keese, chuchu) while running around.

I think the thing people forget when talking about variety is it matters how you use it. BOTW and TOTK basically have a few set grunt types that are what you predominantly fight, and it gets boring fast (in my opinion).

Edit/Note: I didn’t count stal/cursed enemies as they’re basically the same with slight modifications.

june, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Souls games, cod and most other FPS games namely the multiplayer, god of war, RDR2

hyperhearse, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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Final Fantasy VII, honestly. And it's not like I haven't tried to like it but it's just not that good to me. I'm a long time FF fan and I have played all but XI, but VII misses me. The music is bomb, for sure, and I love a few of the characters.

It's also talked about SO much by so many in the gaming community and I'm really just tired of hearing about it. I wish Square gave this level of love and attention to some of their other FF titles.

Glide,

I was “meh” about the original, but the remake was genuinely amazing.

hyperhearse,
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See, I played through some of the remake and it was pretty cool for the most part, I just can't make myself finish it. But I LOVE Crisis Core. I guess I'm the oddball out here.

goombakid, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Ocarina of Time. It’s one of the few Zelda games that I just didn’t enjoy. I’ve had a lot more fun playing Twilight Princess and Wind Waker more than Ocarina. I’d play Adventure of Link more than Ocarina.

Skyrim. Mostly all the RPGs like that. Never understood the hype. I did try to like it, but it wasn’t fun for me at all.

brsrklf,

About Ocarina of Time : same.

And that’s weird, I really love the series as a whole. OoT feels way too bland to me and… I don’t know, I can’t stand its characters, its boring empty environments (plain, ranch and lake for example), its overwhelmingly grey colour palette.

Majora’s Mask’s one of my favourites though. But yeah, I’d rather replay a Link to the Past or any of the other 3D games over OoT.

Sabin10,

OOT is ok but most people that played wind waker or twilight princess first will have a hard time getting into it. Most 5th gen games have aged pretty poorly and need a solid dose of nostalgia to fully enjoy.

jacksilver,

Yeah N64 and PS1 just have this element of jank from the transition to 3D. While a great time for games, none of them have aged as gracefully as the 32-bit games from the previous era.

prunerye, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Minecraft. It desperately needs some QoL improvements for it to be anything but tedious.

simple,

That’s what mods are for, most of the game’s popularity is built around the community and not the vanilla game itself

memo,
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Do you have anything to suggest? Me and a friend would like to re-dive into minecraft as a cozy co-op experience but we both have some experience with it from 2010-2018 and the new stuff that came out the last few years just don’t look that convincing.

I’ve seen modpacks mentioned, but there’s so many I don’t know where to start

simple,

I’ve also been a bit out of the loop the past ~4 years, but Feed The Beast is a good place to start. There seems to be a lot of variety depending on your playstyle. Some are technology focused, some are adventure focused, some are custom gamemodes like skyblock, There’s even FTB University which is a modpack to teach you how complex mods work.

falsemirror, do gaming w How do you feel about the expression "updated for modern audiences" in remasters and remakes?

I haven’t actually noticed this happening before now. My immediate reaction is if it is changes driven by the original creators I’d feel quite positive about it. Love to see personal growth. When driven by the studio though, I’m a bit more skeptical.

Either way, this is why modding should be protected. Let folks play historical/modern/hyper-weird versions of the game they love.

SnotFlickerman,
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When driven by the studio though, I’m a bit more skeptical.

This is a really good point. When it’s in the hands of the creators, you’re still dealing with people who know what they were creating.

A lot of the stuff that people complain about are hamfisted attempts by corporate flunkies to make the game “appeal to a wider audience” as opposed to actually caring about removing unnecessary or offensive material in a constructive way that doesn’t lessen the original impact of the piece of media.

Corporations never decided that women, black people, latinos, and LGBT were humans with inherent value to them simply from existing, but rather, they decided that “Oh shit, we’re leaving money on the table by not marketing to these groups or hiring them.” It’s all about dollar-signs. It’s why corporations will fly the Pride Flag in June on Twitter… Just not on their Saudi Arabia Twitter corporate account. The corporates don’t care about the issues, they just care about getting your labor and your money, in other words, extracting value from you.

And attempts to extract value from you are where hamfisted attempts at making pieces of media “more appealing to everyone” by trying to shove as much strained “diversity” (the corporate kind, not the real kind) in there as possible in hopes to increase sales.

…on the other hand though, some of the original creators simply never grew up and are just obstinately wanting to continue to offend people for no good reason other than getting off on triggering other people. Like I’d have more hope from a remake from Neil Druckmann over John Romero, for example.

rustydrd, (edited ) do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Elden Ring, any “Soulsborne” game really. I get why people like them, and I tried multiple times, but it just isn’t working on me.

Mint_Raccoon, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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Almost anything first person. It makes me incredibly nauseous, which is really unfortunate because there are some really neat games that use the mechanic. I recently sold my copy of Echo Night since I couldn't play for more than around ten minutes at a time. I also couldn't complete the tutorial in Half-Life because it made me so nauseous that I had to spend almost the entire day in bed. Weirdly I'm perfectly fine with Metroid Prime.

Danitos,

Try increasing the FOV. Same thing happened to me with Half-Life.

brsrklf,

I suspect Metroid Prime works for you because movement is quite slow. Samus feels like a tank compared to Gordon Freeman.

I love the Prime trilogy, but when I returned to it while doing a Metroid binge of sort, and I was kind of trying to do decent times, I was surprised how much slower-paced they feel compared to the 2D games. Even jumps feel floaty (probably for the better, it’s hard to judge jumps correctly in first person).

Veritrax,

I find turning off motion blur and screen shake/weapon bobbing really helps for me. Assuming you have the option that is.

dlpkl, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Top down, RTS, and point and click games. That includes XCOM, Baldur’s Gate, Pillars of Eternity, etc. They just seem to be lacking immersion, I’d much rather play a 3rd person action game or an FPS

Veritrax,

I keep taking breaks from Baldur’s Gate to play action/fps games. I can only handle so much turn based tactical gameplay at once.

caut_R, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

I played Call of Duty Black Ops III and I don‘t understand how anyone can enjoy that multiplayer, it‘s such an overloaded piece of crap lol

Campaign and Zombies was fun af though.

Also, any sad dad game. I don‘t wanna be sad when I play videogames.

papabobolious, do gaming w How do you feel about the expression "updated for modern audiences" in remasters and remakes?

I was excited to play the remake of my all time favourite game Mafia 1, but it only lasted for about 20 minutes. They put utterly pointless additions in and the AI was somehow way dumber despite being 20 years newer.

Wtf is a ram keybind for car driving?

Coelacanth,
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I think I read about that remake. Did they also change the soundtrack or am I tripping? I loved Mafia 1 back in the day, and the Django Reinhardt songs in the original were iconic.

papabobolious,

I didn’t get far enough to consider that, but considering licensing issues in remasters of other games, it wouldn’t be surprising at all.

kurcatovium,

This is exactly the game that came to my mind when reading title. I loved old Mafia, but the remake? It’s not a bad game, but it lost like 90% of atmosphere original had. Like those cop chases that are utter joke that doesn’t belong to the game.

enjoytemple, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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Soul like everything, but that's just me being too clumsy for any challenge. I do hope some people could stop complaining other games being too easy tho. Not every game needs to be Soul likes.

dlpkl, (edited )

Also this, but because it’s got the quality of an Indie game. Before people jump down my throat, compare the animations, sound effects, graphical fidelity, and voice acting to any other AAA game. Even the combat, which people usually extoll as the best thing about them, is just dodge->attack over and over again. Don’t even get me started on the pathetic “storytelling” in those games.

Edit: y’all mad huh

BleatingZombie, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Pretty much any competitive online game. It’s not that I don’t like competing. I just feel bad for the others if I win and I feel bad for losing if I lose

1984,
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I think you don’t like competing actually. And it’s fine.

inlandempire, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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I don’t dislike it, it’s brilliant, the epitome of SupergiantGames’ beautiful craft, but I just can’t play Hades, it released after I had already burnt out on Dead Cells, Curse of the Dead Gods, Grime, Enter the Gungeon, Blasphemous, Gunfire Reborn, and whatnot, I can’t bring myself to play it because I had already explored the genre so many times…

Scio, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?
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Skyrim, Limbo, Stardew Valley.

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