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loops, do gaming w What games would you reccomend to someone who really enjoyed Industries of Titan and was immensely disappointed by it's incomplete release?

I’ve never played Industries of Titan, but what I can garner from screenshots and such is that it’s a management/base building game, so:

Satisfactory (especially the cosiness)

Factorio - peak management (2.0 coming out soon also)

Stardew Valley - peak cozy, the world is the total opposite of a dystopia though.

Drigo,

At least half a year before Factorio 2.0 comes out. Maybe more. But goddamn, it’s shaping up to be good. Honestly can’t wait

M137, do games w What are some hidden indie gems nobody knows about?

A Robot Named Fight - “Metroidvania roguelike focused on exploration and item collection. Explore a different, procedurally-generated labyrinth each time you play and discover randomized power-ups to traverse obstacles, find secrets and explode meat beasts.” Links: Steam - Website (It is also available on Switch, link on website)

I have almost 500 hours of playtime and still go back to it every now and then. Really awesome game with superb music, graphics and feel.

What’s extra cool is that the lone developer open-sourced the game code, available here: OpenARNF on GitHubSadly I’ve yet to see any mods, spinoffs or anything else come from it.

ninjan, do gaming w WWII first person shooters

Brothers in Arms is fantastic and squad management is not a very intrusive part of it at all.

As for the saturation it wasn’t just FPS, it was that every genre (well, baring racing I guess, but there every game was heavily “Fast & Furious” inspired) had more than one WWII game, it was ridiculous…

TwoBeeSan, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

I have tried on multiple occasions to get into 4x games and my brain is just too simple.

The 4x elements have to be secondary and not the primary focus. Age of wonders planetfall and Warhammer 2? Great. Imperator Rome and europa universalis? Might as well look at a fucking spreadsheet lol.

Wish I could get into the micro and efficiency of numbers but it doesn’t do anything for me. Even with an interest in Rome.

CoconutKnight,

What does 4x Elements mean? Never heard the term before xD

CoconutKnight, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Not sure if this even a beloved game, but Assassins Creed Unity. The setting has so much potential but the story feels so slow and I find it boring, the controls took some frustrating time to get used to and Paris is just not a very visually compelling place to be at. I used to love AC2 but Unity… idk

alsimoneau, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

I can’t think of a large open world game I liked. Skyrim, RDR2, the new Assassin’s Creeds, Biomutant, Horizon Zero Dawn, GTA5. I feel like they sacrifice the story to fill a world with so many random side quests that it seems like I’ll never be able to finish it. I miss games that I could complete in less than 25 hours of playtime.

Zahille7,

Zero Dawn had too many side quests? Imo, it felt like there wasn’t enough sidestory content. Like one or two side quests for a couple towns outside the main city of the game, and that’s it.

I actually really liked the Frozen Wilds DLC because it was a mini distraction from the rest of the game, and explored more of the people that live in that new world.

AVengefulAxolotl,

Cyberpunk 2077 or The witcher 3 maybe? I think both of these open world games are absolutely fantastic.

alsimoneau,

I’ve never finished Witcher 3, bit I did like it. Still waiting on a good discount to try cyberpunk.

Baphomet_The_Blasphemer,

I also have never been able to finish Witcher 3, started it at least half a dozen times or more, but always ended up losing interest in it after a day or two. Cyberpunk, on the other hand, I think is great. I have several hundred hours into that game and just bought the phantom liberty expansion and started a fresh play-through. I’m really enjoying the changes they made, and I just love how alive Night City feels.

alsimoneau,

I’ll keep that in mind! Thanks!

cashews_best_nut,

Horizon Zero Dawn

I’m shocked to see you put this in the same breath as the others. I found the story SO in-depth and fascinating that I spent hours just reading lore on the fan wikis. Loved that game but the second one stripped a lot of the lore out and made it more mindless.

alsimoneau,

I liked the early game, but my interest fizzled out by the time I got to the large city out west.

TransplantedSconie, do gaming w Are you enjoying Palworld?

Having fun so far. Only reached lv 10 so it’s just tutorial stuff. Can’t wait until I have a regiment of chickens with muskets

CharlesReed, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of January 28th

Diablo 3: Season 30 - Already working on the Destroyer chapter.

Alan Wake 2 - I'm trying to be extra careful because I know there's a few extra things in ng+, and I'm starting to have a lot of questions about a couple loose ends that also showed up in the first playthrough. I'm hoping maybe the ng+ ending will explain some of them. I'm only a few chapters away from the end, so I'm hoping I finish it in the next 2 or 3 days.

Diablo 4: Season 3 - Chose a Barbarian for this round. Not sure I like my current build, but I'm hoping once I get some more legendary items I can look into a better one. I like the "story" for this season a lot better than last season's, but that might be because Zoltun Kulle is one of my favorite Diablo 3 characters. My lil construct companion is kinda kickin' ass too. Just wish it would also pick up gold for me lol. As far as the season journey goes, I'm glad they took out the PvP objectives. I actually feel like I might be able to get all of them done this season.

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Just wish it would also pick up gold for me lol.

It’s weird that D4 doesn’t have this yet. Not just talking about the season companion, but in general. Maybe they’re still trying to be a more serious game, and having a tiny Butcher running behind you would be too silly. In a few seasons, once they put the Horadric Hamburger in the shop, they’ll hopefully also add vanity pets.

I just want my SC2 Probe, dammit.

CharlesReed, (edited )

If they are planning to I imagine they're waiting a little bit to introduce them. I try not to compare the two games too much, but iirc it was a few years before D3 even got pets.
If they're not planning on it, at the very least increasing the pickup radius would be nice, since it's fairly small as it stands now.

debil, do games w Which games do you dislike, but the rest of the world loves them?

Last of Us, Uncharted, Assassin’s Creed, RDR.

I did finish one of the Uncharted series but they mostly go into interactive movies genre which I don’t find that interesting. The same with LoU but lost interest and never finished. AC (maybe II) was just annoying, the blending, erratic climbing/jumping mechanics… RDR, I should give them a chance, but the wild west setup inherently doesn’t do much for me. The same can be said about the “samurai style” games like Nioh, Sekiro etc. And I say that as a huge Souls games fan.

1simpletailer,
@1simpletailer@startrek.website avatar

God I hate the “Interactive Movie” genre. Uncharted, Last of Us, God of War. Pretty much most of Sony’s exclusives. They’re all the same boring 3rd person mechanics, and uncultured “gamers” will go off about how “amazing” the story is because they haven’t read a book since high school and only watch blockbusters. If you’re not going to do anything interesting with the game mechanics or add any actual interactivity to the story then whats the fucking point of making it a game? They just seem like a refuge for hack screenwriters that couldn’t make it in film and lazy game devs who are out of ideas.

Chozo, do gaming w Are you enjoying Palworld?

I've got a feeling that the legal issues, even if they're in the clear, are going to pose a lot of problems for the longevity of the game. But, I'm really hopeful that this sparks inspiration for other devs to take on the monster collecting genre. Pokemon has dominated that space for so long that they practically define the genre at this point, so it'll be nice to see new monster collectors come out with their own unique styles.

Butterbee,
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So far Pocketpair has been VERY careful about actually infringing on copyright or trademarks. People smarter than I am are pretty certain that if Nintendo or the Pokemon Company could take legal action against the game as it is, they would have already. The important things to note are that you cannot copyright an art style and you cannot copyright or patent game mechanics. And even if things were touch and go, the gameplay loop of adding survival elements and an emphasis on cooperative guild base management is pretty transformative compared to Pokemon games. So as long as they avoid adding pals that are so close to their Pokemon counterparts that they don’t pass the squint test they will be alright.

Chozo,

While all of that appears to be true, that doesn't mean Nintendo/TPC aren't able to make this small studio's lives a nightmare if they wanted. I have a feeling that the level of scrutiny the studio will be under from now on is going to inhibit any real innovation, as they're already walking a very fine line as it is.

conciselyverbose,

It's also worth noting that they're both Japanese companies, and Japan has different views on IP than the rest of the world. I don't really know enough to go into detail, but it's entirely possible something a company from the US could laugh off is enough to get action taken in Japan.

Moira_Mayhem,

Agreed, all of the ‘drama’ surrounding this possible copyright case is largely created by youtubers and tiktokers for views.

That said, Nintendo WILL probably sue but as a formality to protect their brand, and will gracefully pay Pocket Pair’s legal fees as a cost of business once the court rules in Pocket Pair’s favor to keep their copyrights from lapsing to generic use. It’s not uncommon.

Not doing that is how Bayer lost the copyright for ‘Asprin’ in the U.S.

Now if a ton of people refer to Pals as Pokemon the same way people refer to all tissues as Kleenex, THEN they might legitimately run the risk of losing their copyright and will pursue aggressively but I don’t see that happening.

Moira_Mayhem,

There is no legal issue, Nintendo is suing as a formality to protect their existing copyrights. They’ll be ruled against and shrug their shoulders and pay Pocket Pair’s legal fees because that is a much better business decision than risking losing their copyright to their existing creatures.

If they don’t aggressively protect their copyright, the JCO might just rule that they have become generic and common use like how Bayer lost the trademarked name ‘Asprin’ in the U.S. when it was considered common use and Bayer did not pursue it aggressively.

But that doesn’t make good youtube poop or memes so you probably think this is some kind of hotly contested hullabaloo because of where you are getting your info from.

conciselyverbose,

Trademarks can become genericized if you don't actively defend them.

Copyright cannot.

Chozo,

There is no legal issue

Nintendo is suing

I mean, it's right there.

Also, you're thinking of trademark. Might be a good idea to know the difference before calling somebody else's opinion "hullabaloo".

Moira_Mayhem,

I don’t think you understand. They can’t win the case but if they don’t bring it, they might lose their brand.

Pocket Pair is not violating even Japan’s strictest interpretation of copyright infringement.

jay, do gaming w Are you enjoying Palworld?

It’s still in my wishlist, I have not palyed it yet. Good to know you liked it!

MiddledAgedGuy, (edited )

I read it was Pokémon like and wrote it off. I’ve tried to but never enjoyed Pokémon. I grew up on jrpg’s so you’d think that was right up my alley. But I disgress…

The comments here paint a more complex story. It honestly still doesn’t seem like my type of game, but my curiosity is piqued. I’ll check it out.

savvywolf, (edited ) do gaming w Are you enjoying Palworld?
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

I actually bought it, tried it for a bit, and then refunded it.

It just felt kinda bland? Not sure if this is just because I wasn’t in in the right headspace, but the game got to the point where I started collecting resources in a base and I just put the game down.

It’s like they got a generic survival game and added not-pokemon and guns to it for shock factors, without really considering gameplay cohesion.

The real reason I refunded it though is because, according to someone on Bluesky, the devs have a history of being NFT and genAI shills. I’d rather not get emotionally invested in mons that could just become NFTs or AI puppets.

Very interested in a future game where someone else takes the idea and actually has the passion to create a good 3D mon catching game. Clearly it’s something the market wants.

ted,

The generative AI and NFT concerns were overblown. His generative AI comment was from his other game, AI art imposter which has AI in the title. For crypto stuff, it’s likely because his company just chases trends. Say what you will about that, but to me a trend chaser is more innocuous than a grifter.

I wish this were an article/column, but it’s a brief video if you want a journalist’s perspective: youtu.be/mYBN5Er8qOs

Nubbly_The_Moist, do gaming w Are you enjoying Palworld?
@Nubbly_The_Moist@lemmynsfw.com avatar

The gameplay is very good up until level 40 and is definitely one of the more complete early access games.

So far I have not encountered any game breaking bugs, but the game itself does have tons of jank.

Now I am currently level 47, and can say that leveling from 40 to 50 is a hella grind and takes a lot of time and resources. Mainly time, as getting end game pokeballs takes a massive amount of resources that only pals can harvest, process, and then craft.

Also, the end game bosses are quite beefy and hit like a truck.

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein,

That’s good to know. I haven’t felt the grind yet (level 20) but maybe level 40-something is where the devs’ early access content plateaued.

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

For what it’s worth, if you customize the difficulty of your game (which you can do at any point, including after reaching the 40s), you can change most things, including resource drop rates and how much effort it takes to mine them, xp rates, Pal encounter rates, capture rates, etc.

I had a similar experience as you; by the time I hit 42 or so, I had the capture power maxed out, and most eggs were not giving me anything interesting, and I had the whole map revealed, so exploring had lost its luster and I was not enjoying the thought of grinding out another 6-8 levels to start being able to tackle some of the harder challenges in the game; I set the XP rate to x4, and doubled the resource rates, and it pretty much solved the problem for me.

Obviously if you’re playing on a server this isn’t an option, but if it’s just your own single player game, consider trying it; you might find some settings that smooth it out for you.

50gp,

yes id recommend turning on double resources or you will go mad mining thousands of ore and coal

SinAdjetivos,

If you build a base on/near a bunch of ore nodes and dedicate it entirely to mining your pals will mine it for you and it respawns daily (passive ore generation ftw!!!)

KoboldCoterie,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

There is a fairly nice base location near the center of the map that has ~6 coal and ~6 ore nodes, and is on a plateau making it functionally immune to NPC raids. I found it completely accidentally; there’s the 3 wildlife sanctuaries around the outside of the map and they all face inward at different angles, so I was trying to triangulate where they were “pointing” to see if it was leading somewhere. Turns out it was leading to a sweet base location.

This is noteworthy because there’s 4 resources (ore, coal, sulfur and quartz), so you need a base with access to 2 of them if you want to have all 4 generating passively.

Rolder,

For end game, how do you think the spheres feel? Cause I swear to god the ultra and legend spheres have bugged capture rates; no way I am getting the percentages those things advertise.

Nubbly_The_Moist, (edited )
@Nubbly_The_Moist@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Lol, I know what you mean. Those legendary spheres say like 80-90% but it feels like a coin flip most of the time. I have had so many fail at like 95%.

I also noticed they tend to tick slower.

tacosanonymous,
@tacosanonymous@lemm.ee avatar

One of the things they stole from Pokémon is the idea that 70% is really more like 30%

Phen, do gaming w Are you enjoying Palworld?

The trailer looked uninteresting so I didn’t try it.

thisbenzingring,

Same. My friends are playing it but I’m not interested.

SeeJayEmm, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of January 28th
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I started playing Firewatch a while back and then got distracted. I recently picked that back up on my Steam Deck.

On the PC I’m playing Remnant 2 with my kid. I’m not into soulslikes but it’s not bad when there’s 2 of us.

I’ve also started playing Palworld to see what all the fuss is about. It is amazingly derivative. It’s like Ark and Pokemon had a baby with maybe some fortnite sprinkled in.

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