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Zagorath, do games w I tested the Age of Empires Mobile beta, and it's a worthless adaptation
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

For anyone who see the preview back in February, this is not exactly surprising, but it certainly brings home the reality of the situation—that the preview did not unfairly represent the actual game.

This deeply upsets me, because the Age of Empires franchise is one I really care about. 1, 2, 3, 4, and Age of Mythology are all excellent games, and every one of them belongs in the top 20 RTS games of all time. Microsoft might not be developing this game (that’s getting outsourced to Chinese company TiMi with a history of producing trash mobile games), but they are tarnishing their brand by allowing it to be associated with this game.

But it gets worse. They are apparently also silencing critics of it. Back when February’s announcement came out, some select few creators were allowed to put out videos about the game using exclusive footage of the game, and were told they’d be paid for their role in promoting the game. But they retained editorial control over the videos. YouTube channel Age of Noob put out one such video, and while tempered in its tone, it was largely negative.

Yesterday, the YouTube channel Age of Noob put out a video saying he never got paid, as well as more specifically saying how bad the game was. Today, he put out another one saying he was forced to take down that one (in vague terms—it would not even be clear he was talking about AoE Mobile, if you hadn’t seen the first video). In a pinned comment he also said that after making the second video, he found out he had been removed from the Age Franchise Partners programme.

If this is how Microsoft is willing to treat their biggest game franchise (well, biggest one that they didn’t buy after it was already huge), and the creators that help promote it, that is incredibly disappointing.

dinckelman,

Why can’t we ever have anything nice

ricdeh,
@ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

… from public corpos

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

I think the answer there would be “capitalism”.

Krakaval,

Who the fuck validated the bright idea in a management meeting : let’s outsource the mobile project to that Chinese company which produced those trash games ? Those people need to be fired like yesterday. Crazy how a company can sabotage itself…

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

It’s honestly shocking. They went for a decade with heaps of trashy mobile games advertising using stolen AoE art assets. When they finally announced a mobile game, I assumed it was because they thought they had cracked how to do a good mobile game that would do justice to their franchise. I guess the reality was more “oh, look how many companies are making lots of money ripping off our IP. We could rip off our own IP and make all that money!”

EonNShadow,

There’s always Xcom - the shining example of what a mobile port could be.

I wish other companies would see that and go “yeah, that’s doable”

Instead, this crap happens.

RizzRustbolt, do games w I tested the Age of Empires Mobile beta, and it's a worthless adaptation

Interesting opinion, however… wololo

Cmor, do games w Tencent's soulless Age of Empires Mobile cash-grab is here to ruin your childhood

Are we pretending that Age of Empires Online never existed?

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

I don’t think so, why? I only played it very briefly, but I thought it had a small but happy fanbase still playing on third-party servers.

Cmor,

I played at release and haven’t followed it since then. At the time, I remember it being highly criticized and not popular with the community. It has been over a decade, and I could be misremembering.

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Yeah I’m not really sure either. I get the sense that either it got better over its lifetime or over time people came around to it à la the Star Wars prequels. But I don’t really remember it. I played it a little early in its life but don’t remember anything about it.

Tramdan,
Zagorath, do games w Tencent's soulless Age of Empires Mobile cash-grab is here to ruin your childhood
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

It is genuinely hard to describe just how bad this is. I did the best job I could of my own review over on the official Age of Empires forums. Its worst sin is probably the simple fact that it barely even feels like a game where you make choices. You just click what it tells you to do.

It’s telling that they don’t have an official subforum for this game, although there is one for AoE1, 2, 3, and 4, and Age of Mythology.

ConHoliousDonFrankle,

That was a really good review. I only know about this game because my xbox advertised it, and I assumed it was some new xbox game. It’s sad to see mobile ads on my xbox as 95% of the games are trash.

Albbi,

I got a good chucke of of the minireview review for it.

Age of Empires Mobile is a fantastic real-time strategy game… oh, wait. Scrap that. This mobile version of the beloved RTS franchise has nothing to do with the original PC games. The gameplay is different, and the monetization is extremely pay-to-win. Unfortunately.

Didn’t know it was also a Tencent production. Eww

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

I had a read over the rest of that review. Damn it was a good read. And sadly very, painfully accurate to my experience.

PunchingWood, do games w Tencent's soulless Age of Empires Mobile cash-grab is here to ruin your childhood

What self-respecting RTS and/or AoE fan plays this kind of stuff on mobile anyway?

Barely anything good ever comes from these kind of mobile games, or any mobile games in general for that matter.

iAmTheTot,

There are lots of good mobile games. Mobile gaming gets a bad rep from all the prominent soulless cash grab type stuff.

PunchingWood,

I enjoyed plenty of phone and tablet games back in the day, when it all started (god I feel old). When there were both amazing free and paid games. But then they started including ads, and microtransactions, and then battle passes, and then unskippable ads and promotions, and then progression got locked behind paywalls, etc.

I’m sure there are a few good games out there, but the few attempts I tried a few mobile games again it feels like I always run into having to pay to progress sooner or later. It’s most definitely nothing like the golden ages back around 2010.

Rai,

There’s a couple good mobile games. Ascension, Lick Be A Landlord, and Shattered Pixel Dungeon are the only ones I play.

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

This kind of stuff? None. It’s shockingly bad.

But a real Age of Empires game? Hells yes. This was announced not long after the AoE2 and AoE4 ports to console & controller had shown to be successful (at least critically—no idea how they’re doing commercially). So I thought that they had cracked a way to do satisfying RTS gameplay on a mobile device. It’d be great to be able to play a quick Skirmish on the bus, or while spending time away from home without my computer.

So when a few aoe creators showed previews of the game back in February this year, I was rather surprised and very disappointed to see that the game has absolutely zero resemblance to an Age game. That the worst fears of it being a shitty rip-off were completely true. Thanks to those previews, I was not surprised on release this week—though the extent of just how bad even the narrative side of this is was still overwhelming.

sigmaklimgrindset,

I play Broodwar on mobile…😭 sorry RTS fans

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I mean, if I could run Civ V on my phone I’d play the shit out of that. Though that’s turn based I suppose.

hardcoreufo,

Check out unciv. It’s an open source remake of civ v with simplified graphics.

Don’t blame me if this ruins your life.

owenfromcanada,
@owenfromcanada@lemmy.world avatar

Mobile gaming is like dumpster diving–there are a handful of good ones among the utter trash.

One of the good ones I found is Exiled Kingdoms–it’s an homage to 90’s RPGs, and it’s good on mobile.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Balatro is on mobile now. It’s digital crack cocaine

owenfromcanada,
@owenfromcanada@lemmy.world avatar

So I’ve heard. I’m avoiding it for the same reason I avoid analog crack cocaine.

MammyWhammy,

It’s problematic. I was on a 5 hour flight this week and I played wheels up to wheels down and legit didn’t realize it until the bump on landing.

I haven’t been sucked into a game like that in decades.

echodot,

It also slaughters your battery life for some reason.

improbablypoopingrn,

Slice and Dice is quite fun. I love these threads as I always end up with new games to check out so thank you for the link!

general_kitten,

I was just about to comment about slice and dice too

Valmond,

Hoplite and Knights of pen and paper 2 are both really good IMO.

Banichan, do games w Tencent's soulless Age of Empires Mobile cash-grab is here to ruin your childhood
@Banichan@dormi.zone avatar

QQ moar

CosmoNova, do games w Tencent's soulless Age of Empires Mobile cash-grab is here to ruin your childhood

They already ruined it with the first F2P AoE about a decade ago or so, so I really don’t care.

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