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Jakdracula, do astronomy w NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab laying off 8% of its workforce
@Jakdracula@lemmy.world avatar

Ugh. Less money for important things, more money for war!

BakedCatboy, do astronomy w For this dead star, 72 years is a single Earth day

Had to read the article to find out that they mean 72 “years worth of orbits” happen in 1 earth day. Although unlikely I was hoping that it was orbiting so fast that 1 earth day there would pass 72 earth years to a stationary observer due to time dilation. Not sure how fast it would need to go for that to happen.

XeroxCool,

Since time and speed are relative, to have 1 Earth day on the star and see 72 years on Earth, it’d simply be a speed multiplier of 72*365.24= 26,296.28 times faster. Our solar system orbits the galactic center at 250km/s or 0.0008c, so ~26k times that puts it at nearly 22c relative to us. So no.

But quite frankly, there must be a way to be a slower observer. Earth’s orbital speed is about 30km/s (0.0001c) so that drops the product way down to 2.6c. And while the Parker Solar Probe holds the record for the fastest man made object at 0.0006c at its closest solar approach, it actually took a lot of energy to slow it down to get it to the sun and stall it’s orbit. Otherwise, it’d just orbit it the same as the Earth. It slides out to a Venusian distance from the sun at apogee and drops to 12km/s, halving the differential requirement to +1.2c. But if everything is relative, how do we even determine where 1c is and know it’s so definitively impossible to reach? I don’t know, I’m starting to have an existential crisis. Maybe time just keeps dilating and simple addition/subtraction doesn’t apply for appreciable values of c so you have to start multiplying in decimals.

BakedCatboy,

Relativistic time dilation is nonlinear, so the time dilation “multiplier” approaches infinity as you approach the speed of light. So you will never need more than 1c to pass any finite amount of time for the observer while only passing a smaller amount of time for the moving object. Using a time dilation calculator, it looks like 1 day inside the moving object to 72 years for the stationary observer works out to roughly 99.9999999% the speed of light (9 nines total). Of course if you take into account earths movement as a “stationary” baseline then it’ll depend on whether you’re moving with or against the fast moving object.

It used to melt my brain too but there’s no need to know “absolutely stationary” since you’re comparing 2 objects. And due to the time dilation, the 1c limit is different depending on the observer, the time dilation will prevent anyone from observing >1c even if one person is going 0.9c relative to another person who is also going 0.9c relative to a stationary observer.

slazer2au, do astronomy w The sun's magnetic field is about to flip. Here's what to expect.

This phenomenon happens roughly every 11 years and marks an important stage in the solar cycle.

How does it affect us?

It doesn’t.

cynar,

We get a maxima in solar storm activity. This can cause solar flares that can knock out satellites. They can even mess with power transmission lines, if they hit hard enough.

So it won’t affect you, if you don’t use power, or data via satellite.

Etterra,

Yeah, nothing cool ever dooms us all.

LibertyLizard, do astronomy w A baby star's planet-forming disk has 3 times more water than all of Earth's oceans
@LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net avatar

That’s it? Doesn’t seem like much at all.

jeena, do astronomy w Solar eclipse on Mars! Perseverance rover sees Martian moon Phobos cross the sun in epic video
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

This is very cool!

tate, do astronomy w Long ago, a lake on Mars might have been sprawling with microbes
@tate@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That’s not what “sprawling” means.

I know it’s in the article headline and OP is likely not the author, but it’s impossible to give feedback on space.com so I’m leaving it here from frustration.

Thorry84, do astronomy w The mathematically perfect exoplanet system — a great place to search for alien tech

Damn space.com, don’t forget to put some article in between the ads on your site

Shurimal, do astronomy w What would happen if you moved at the speed of light?

If you somehow got rid of your rest mass to move at the speed of causality, two things would happen: first, you'd experience no time; second, you'd instantly crash into your destination and die in a rather energetic way. That's the neat thing about photons; from a photon's POV time and distance do not exist. A photon, from its POV, is emitted and absorbed at the same time in the same place.

Much more interesting is having rest mass and moving at a high fraction of c: http://gamelab.mit.edu/games/a-slower-speed-of-light/

Cap, do astronomy w Solar eclipse on Mars! Perseverance rover sees Martian moon Phobos cross the sun in epic video
@Cap@kbin.social avatar

I love this line, "...is an asteroid-sized moon orbiting a few thousand miles (or kilometers) above the Martian surface..." A few thousand miles...or kilometers, we don't care, pick your favorite.

Solemn,

A quick search says Phobos orbits 3700 miles, aka 6000km, above the surface of Mars. A few thousand of either is in fact, correct.

dave,
@dave@feddit.uk avatar

If you’re imprecise enough, anything is about half the size of an adult giraffe.

Peppycito,

Which half? The neck half or the leg half?

dave,
@dave@feddit.uk avatar

No, silly, the left half.

Peppycito,

The half that’s left. Got it.

MrCookieRespect, do astronomy w NASA loses contact with Ingenuity Mars helicopter

:(

Tristaniopsis, do astronomy w For this dead star, 72 years is a single Earth day

That doesn’t make sense. Is it 72 years or a day?!?

Clent,

Sounds like it’s 72 orbits per Earth day.

Shit headline.

Reminds me of Facebook posts that intentionally show the wrong answer to increase engagement.

po_tay_toes,
@po_tay_toes@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

Yes.

fartsparkles, do astronomy w Big, doomed satellite seen from space as it tumbles towards a fiery reentry on Feb. 21 (photos)

Why has it taken 12 or 13 years from being manoeuvred to deorbit, to finally deorbiting?

theodewere,
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

very high orbit i guess

Excrubulent,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

I don’t know all of the details of this mission, but it seems like they’ve just lowered the lowest point in its orbit - called periapsis - until it sits low enough in the atmosphere to get enough drag that the orbit slowly decays over a decade.

The lowest part of the orbit would only drop a little bit, but the highest part of the orbit woukd reduce more with each orbit. If you do it slowly enough, the orbit would circularise and then it would begin to decay more evenly. As it falls deeper into the atmosphere the orbit would decay faster and faster until it can no longer sustain orbit, and then it falls deeper into the atmosphere and burns up in just a few minutes.

The reason for this I can only guess at - it wouldn’t take a whole lot more fuel to just deorbit all at once. My best guess is that it has something to do with reentering at the lowest possible speed. If you fall from a high orbit and reenter, you have a lot more speed and have to dissipate more energy all at once. It’s possible this increases the risk that the satellite will fail to deobrit, and break up and send pieces off in less predictable orbits. If it breaks up from a low circular orbit, there’s no chance of any parts escaping back into orbit.

fartsparkles,

Amazingly insightful answer! Thanks for sharing.

crazyminner, do astronomy w The world's largest digital camera is ready to investigate the dark universe

Finally I’ll get a wallpaper big enough to fit on all my monitors.

atx_aquarian, do astronomy w What would happen if you moved at the speed of light?
@atx_aquarian@lemmy.world avatar

The time thing is interesting, but I feel like no one talks much about the appearance of passing objects. That is, I wonder how the image of a passing celestial object might distort due to length contraction and any other effects. I’m still trying to understand that. This article seems pretty digestible, so far.

h3mlocke, do astronomy w 3 tiny new moons found around Uranus and Neptune — and one is exceptionally tiny

That’s no moon that’s a space station.

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