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theangriestbird, do gaming w Valve announces three new products: the Steam Frame, Steam Machine and Steam Controller
@theangriestbird@beehaw.org avatar

Not be that guy, but someone already beat you to the punch on posting this news: beehaw.org/post/23165121

sp3ctr4l,

Ah, didn’t see it, I went with pcgamer, not gamespot, on mobile, it didn’t auto tell me ‘somebody already posted that url, dummy!’

Oh well, all my cross posts to every other gaming community I can see are blowing up, I guess beehaw is the only place quicker on the trigger on this one than everywhere else.

theangriestbird, (edited )
@theangriestbird@beehaw.org avatar

yeahhhh and I mean, there’s no rule about it so it’s not like you’re in trouble or anything, this is just a thing I care about. I like to see big threads with lots of comments and lively discussion! If this was reddit it wouldn’t matter, the upvotes would sort it out or both threads would just coexist and it would be fine. In this smaller community, two people posting the same story from diff sources at the same time can lead to both comment threads being relatively dead. I will call this out in comments bc of my own personal goal of seeing consolidated threads. My hope is folks will double-check before posting in the future. In this case, I think the other post blew up before you posted, so it just means that this comment section will be sorta dead. Glad you cross-posted to the other gaming communities!

sp3ctr4l,

Yeah, I’m not trying to like, karma farm… I usually do this kind of strat with like, some kind of serious world/us/political/financial news.

I’m trying to maximize visibility, but… yeah, a side effect of that is diffuse comment sections… both within one community/lemmy, and across diffent communities/lemmys.

I dunno.

Who is or isn’t federated with who?

I dunno.

???

If I see an already existing huge thread about the same thing, or very similsr thing, I try to join in there, but, I did not see that this time, I missed it.

There something like double or triple as many fairly large (10k + members) gaming comms… as major news comms, at least from what I see.

GammaGames,

I don’t usually crosspost quickly because it acts more like c/all spam for the people that browse it

notgivingmynametoamachine, do games w 'I think we're in the fight of our lives': Fired Rockstar employees and IWGB are confident the GTA 6 developer will be held accountable for its alleged union busting

I mean I know “Alleged” has to be there for legal purposes, but what are the chances Rockstar ISNT guilty of union busting?

I’ve watched UNION’s union bust when their staff unionizes, no way a for profit capitalist nightmare like rockstar isn’t busting as hard as they can, especially with the NLRB currently muzzled by a felonious rapist who steals from children with cancer.

Jinarched, do games w To the rapidly aging person reading this: GameFAQs is 30 years old, and people are sharing their memories of the venerable guide hub
@Jinarched@lemmy.ca avatar

I feel like I could… like I could… like I could… TAKE ON THE WORLD!!

whelk,
@whelk@retrolemmy.com avatar

I don’t think you should drink that…

Blackmist, do games w To the rapidly aging person reading this: GameFAQs is 30 years old, and people are sharing their memories of the venerable guide hub

I hope there’s a giant archive of these guides we can download, should anything happen to that site. Any older games you might be stuck on, this is about the only place to go for help.

And I’ll tell you now, old games can be obscure as shit. They didn’t care if you finished them or not.

UniversalBasicJustice,

There is and I will share it with any and everyone willing to seed it.

AntiBullyRanger, (edited )

if it’s b.32768(擑믢憥莔썞羚쑴䡢) then we got it. Unless there’s been an update after 2022-01-03.

early_riser, do games w To the rapidly aging person reading this: GameFAQs is 30 years old, and people are sharing their memories of the venerable guide hub
@early_riser@lemmy.world avatar

I think wikis have taken over that niche, at least for more popular games.

ivanafterall, do games w To the rapidly aging person reading this: GameFAQs is 30 years old, and people are sharing their memories of the venerable guide hub
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

Using that site always made me feel more deep shame than any porn site.

blazeknave, do games w To the rapidly aging person reading this: GameFAQs is 30 years old, and people are sharing their memories of the venerable guide hub

I still have NES guides up there!

rodneylives,

Thank you for your service!

henfredemars, do games w To the rapidly aging person reading this: GameFAQs is 30 years old, and people are sharing their memories of the venerable guide hub
@henfredemars@infosec.pub avatar

I remember finding online guides for the first time back in the days of dial up. It was incredible. So many games I had places where I was stuck and you just accepted that you have to figure it out or you just don’t continue the game.

ExtraMedicated, do games w [UnReal World] has been in continual development for 33 years, and its creator doesn't think he'll ever stop updating it: 'When I accomplish one feature, I always have two more waiting'

I vaguly remember playing some version (I think a demo) of this in the 90’s. Crazy to see it’s still going. It’s on Steam. I should probably check it out again sometime.

SocialMediaRefugee, do games w US government uses Halo images in a call to 'destroy' immigration, Microsoft declines to comment

Xenophobia is out of control.

ryathal, do games w 'Valve does not get anywhere near enough criticism': DayZ creator Dean Hall says the 'gambling mechanics' of Valve's monetization strategy 'have absolutely no place' in videogames

Valve has one for the few lootbox systems that you can actually get value back out of outside the game. While they deserve all the same criticism of every lootbox game, they probably also deserve some praise for that.

Goodeye8,

That’s like giving a drug dealer praise for not selling the harder drugs.

Valve doesn’t deserve praise for being slightly less shitty when they’re doing one the shittiest things in gaming.

ryathal,

No it’s like praising a dealer that will buy back some drugs as well as sell them.

Goodeye8,

If you want to get specific it’s not praising the dealer for buying back the drugs. It’s praising the drug dealer for allowing the customers to sell those drugs to others while taking a small cut from every sale. But they still shouldn’t get any praise because they shouldn’t be doing that in the first place.

KokoSabreScruffy,

And casinos deserve a praise because you can win back some of the money you wasted.

ryathal,

The casino is honest about what they do compared to say Genshin Impact.

KokoSabreScruffy,

Genshin shows odds, Valve shows nothing.

Genshin directly shows you the stuff, Valve has a slot machine like animation.

I have students who play both Genshin and CS2 and spending money them. In Genshin they spend to get a character they want, in cs2 is to try to make money…

And casinos can hardly be honest given the couple of time I read about cases in which a customer wins at slot machine and casino claims it was faulty.

Cybersteel,
@Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

Wel atleast the casinos are established entities with decades of precedence while the other is weeb shit.

Kissaki, do gaming w Just in case you thought reviving dead games seemed easy enough, GOG had to hire a private investigator to find an IP holder living off the grid for its preservation program

If you make a good effort to identify, locate, and contact copyright holders, but the path runs cold, can you disregard copyright? Maybe by claiming fair use or lack of traceable copyright?

Trademark requires active use. I don’t believe there’s such a thing for copyright. Are there limits other than regular fair use and documented year expiration?

Kichae,

No. You don’t get to just decide you have the right to use someone else’s work just because you coudn’t find them to ask, any more than you get to decide that you can use their car. Them not actively selling their works isn’t the equivalent of leaving the car derilict on public property.

4am,

It should be, and they should only get 14 years before it expires.

ranandtoldthat, do gaming w Sony accuses Tencent of playing a 'shell game' with its Horizon-like survival game, seeks a preliminary injunction against it

The fact that anyone is taking Sony even remotely seriously is absurd.

Goodeye8,

Why wouldn’t they? I’m all for the fuck Sony train when they fuck up (like when they pushed PSN onto PC users and then blocked the sale of their games in countries that aren’t supported by PSN) but in this case Tencent is/was blatantly copying the Horizon IP.

t3rmit3,

It’s not copying it, it’s ripping it off, which isn’t illegal. Copying (i.e. copyright infringement) has a specific legal meaning, and it’s not being asserted by Sony. Sony is trying to claim that it being a ripoff means customers would be confused into believing it’s actually a Horizon game and purchasing it in error, which is stupid.

If Tencent had called this Horizons: Motiram, they’d be 100% in the right. But they are just trying to essentially claim they own the combination of style and theme of “colorful world with tribal humans vs robot animals”. That’s not how trademark works (this is trademark btw, not copyright, just in case anyone is getting them mixed up).

Goodeye8,

You’re going to tell me people won’t think this is Horizon?

Light of Motiram

That’s an image from the official reveal trailer.

t3rmit3,

They won’t mistakenly buy the game based on that image.

Goodeye8,

That was a random image from the trailer. You can stop the trailer at a random point and there’s like 90% chance you’re going to end up with an image that could easily be from the Horizon series. It’s also worth pointing out that the trailer has been removed from all official Lights of Motiram accounts along with a dozen images that looked like they were from the Horizon series.

I will also remind you that you said it would be absurd to take Sony seriously, which is not the same thing as stating “there’s no trademark violations here”. The latter is literally what the court has to make a decision on. The former is about whether there’s any basis to go to court which already means you think you know better than Sony lawyers and, if the court doesn’t instantly throw out the case, also better than the legal system. Maybe you are some godlike lawyer who knows better than everyone else, but if you are I think you can understand why I’m calling bullshit on that.

t3rmit3,

I will also remind you that you said it would be absurd to take Sony seriously, which is not the same thing as stating “there’s no trademark violations here”. The latter is literally what the court has to make a decision on. The former is about whether there’s any basis to go to court which already means you think you know better than Sony lawyers and, if the court doesn’t instantly throw out the case, also better than the legal system. Maybe you are some godlike lawyer who knows better than everyone else, but if you are I think you can understand why I’m calling bullshit on that.

You should check who you’re responding to.

Goodeye8,

Okay? But if you’re not defending the other persons statement then what are you doing?

t3rmit3,

I was/am responding to something you said in your comment, specifically that they were copying HZD.

I think it’s entirely possible that Sony wins, though they shouldn’t. But it will be about whether this constitutes an infringement on Sony’s Horizon trademark, not copyright. I don’t think it does, and I do think this amounts to Sony wanting to own the concept, like Nintendo wants to own creature catchers, but it is obviously possible another court would make another bad ruling in the IP space, especially if that means siding with the non-Chinese corporation.

Goodeye8,

But there’s no question about them copying the Horizon series. Whether they’re doing it as an IP infringement is up for the courts to decide. I also disagree with the Nintendo comparison because what Nintendo is doing far worse. Even though Nintendo is doing things in response to Palworld they’re trying to patent a rather generic mechanics, like summonings or calling mounts (in a specific way) which means their actions won’t just affect Palworld but also Cassette Beasts and maybe even Monster Hunter Stories.

Meanwhile Sony want to make sure someone isn’t making a not Horizon game. I can’t even make a realistic comparison to what couldn’t exist if Sony wins because I can’t think of another game that that slots exactly into what Horizon is. Fighting against robots is generic, ARC raiders does that. Tribals vs high tech is also pretty generic, that’s essentially Avatar. Post-apocalyptic worlds are also generic and you’d have to narrow it down to get specifically Horizon style post-apocalyptic which itself is also not unique as that’s essentially the same style The Last of Us uses (just to give the first example that came to mind). It’s only after you take all those individual generic components and mash them together do you get Horizon, and the original reveal of Light of Motiram.

Look at this from the other perspective. Why does Light of Motiram need the same kind of tribal aesthetic like the Horizon games? Why does Light of Motiram need robot enemies that imitate animals like Horizon games down to the same visual style of robots? Why does Light of Motiram need the same post-apocalyptic world like the Horizon games down to the same color palette? Each of those things are rather generic concepts and Light of Motiram could’ve made their own interpretation of each of those concepts. It could’ve been Na’Vi tribals fighting ARC robots in an TLOU world, but instead in those instances it chose to do exactly what Horizon does.

Yupa,

Wait wtf? I thought it was just an exaggeration! I get why Sony is mad now.

ranandtoldthat,

Do you have an example of a piece of intellectual property that was blatantly copied?

SabinStargem, do games w Emperor of overpromising Peter Molyneux says he's done with games after Masters of Albion, which is also his 'redemption title'

Honestly, I would prefer him to cut back on the ambition and just remaster Magic Carpet I & II. IMO, those were his best games.

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/6c6e41e2-f5d6-4875-8691-dd84cfccf5bb.jpeg

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yeah, Magic Carpet rocked. I’d love a game like that with MP.

mhague, do games w Former BioWare lead writer reads the runes on EA-Saudi deal and speculates that 'guns and football' are in, 'gay stuff' is out, and the venerable RPG studio may be for the chop

It’s EA. They could make gay stuff in games without them. But instead they make a deal with the devil and hope they come out on top? They want all the resources of a soulless giant but then they think they’re somehow escaping the taint?

It’s like musicians making deals that (unfairly, almost amorally) guarantee their songs play across the country… but then they think they’re still a normal artist.

Thanks for the representation I guess. Even though we had to collectively pay to make ME a popular franchise. I’m sure it was all about being true to your morals.

TheSambassador,

I mean, it’s EA. They’ve been in full on corporate profit mode forever, and any good games that they’ve put out are in spite of that. I doubt that there are a ton of “artists trying to make art” left at the decision making level of EA.

mostlikelyaperson,

Yeah a lot of the comments I have seen are outright bizarre, EA won’t change in any noticeable form. It’s maximum profit extraction now and it will remain maximum profit extraction after.

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