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jim, do gaming w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

The can’t narrow the stat… 40-70%… I call BS. Clearly a clickbait article

AmidFuror,

The biggest sin was not citing the study. It appears to come from an interview with a professor, and the range is based on variation across applications.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/feel-motion-sickness-virtual-reality/story?id=65153805

Glide, do games w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

I wonder if this 40-70% demographic has actively tried to play it a couple times? My first experience with VR was incredibly disorienting, and yes, made me feel nauseated. But after playing for 2-3 hours across a handful of 15-20 minute sessions (passing it around a few friends for an evening) that just went away. Once the body uses it a bit and learns, even high-movement non-teleport movement games stop being an issue.

I wonder if I happen to be in that upper percent, or if the numbers in question are a matter of people who tried it once in their life and felt sick. Clearly the author has put real time into trying to move past it, but that doesn’t say anything for the study he quotes the “40-70% of players are 15 minutes” numbers from.

SPOOSER,

I played VR and had a blast. It was usually the ones that were mounted to the ceiling at a mall arcades. I could play no big deal for hours. My brother in law got a vr headset for Christmas and I tried to use it and got unbelievably sick after 20 minutes of playing it.

I played super hot, some moving zombie game, and that plank game on thw vr headsets at mall arcades with no problem moving around, twisting, and moving fast. I played a stationary puzzle game on my bil’s. I dont know what causes the sickness but it was veey bad on his unit. I womder if the suspension at the mall arcades made the difference, rather than having a free roaming headset.

Piemanding,

Heard somewhere that it can get worse if you try to power through the nausea and sickness. Like your body remembers that it made you sick before and wants to actively avoid going through that experience again. So if you start feeling sick, especially when you first start out, stop playing.

Katana314,

That’s just it; the first-time experience is so critical in every game, and often every console.

The systems that needed users to follow 30 steps to set them up, or try them 8 times until they could avoid nausea, often failed.

Convenience is important.

rambaroo,

Lol, I have better things to do with my time than training to play shovelware video games.

ChexMax,

Since you’re asking for anecdotes: my VR headset consistently made me sick following 30 min to an hour at the absolute max. I still played dozens of times for short spurts, but it never got better for me.

Glide,

I kinda am, tbh. I don’t believe for a second that my experience represents everyone, but such large numbers also don’t seem to make sense to me.

novamdomum, do gaming w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it
@novamdomum@kbin.social avatar

Back in the 90's I owned a Forte VFX1 headset (shout out to my config.sys and autoexec.bat bros) and that truly tested your stomach but it was "the future" so everyone seemed to put up with the near constant nausea and vomiting. Things are so much better now, but there's one fundamental aspect of VR in my view that will always hold it back. It's not the cost, cos that eventually comes down. It's that you'll never get away from the fact that you are wearing a giant plastic thing on your head. You can't itch your face. It gets hot and sweaty and generally not a fun time after a while. The minute someone figures out how to safely somehow beam the experience into your brain, without having to wear a high tech casserole dish on your head for hours then it'll become the new global thing.

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“He’s right y’know”

JoshIsProbablyTired, do gaming w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

I really love vr but I can’t play it due to the motion sickness. I’ve tried forcing through it but it never got better.

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

It's not something you can force yourself through, unfortunately. The only way to get over VR motion sickness is to work up to it.

If you get motion sick after 5 minutes, spend 4 minutes every day doing basic things. After a couple weeks, you'll very likely be able to go about 10-15 minutes. So then spend 10 minutes every day.

The moment you get any sort of motion sickness, stop immediately. Nothing you can do will alleviate it and playing more isn't an option that day.

I do think most people are able to work up to and work through it, but most just try to brute force their way or expect that they'll immediately be able to do everything. VR is analogous to a craft, both vehicle and hobby. While you can just get right into a car or roller coaster and send it, chances are your body needs to adjust and learn a few things about it. And while you can just pick up painting right away, chances are you'll need to practice to learn techniques.

VR is very much a mix of both. Many people definitely can just get right on and pick it up pretty quickly, but that doesn't mean there isn't some amount of necessary adjustments.

zeusbottom, do games w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

VR was fine for me until I landed on a planet in Elite: Dangerous. The rover pitching back and forth was way too much. Never again will I put a headset on.

xuv,

There is a comfort mode setting for the ED rover that keeps your view level to the horizon while the rover moves around you.

zeusbottom,

There is, and it absolutely failed to be a comfort when I tried it after I got sick the first time. The comfort mode functioned, but my brain was done with VR. I could not even use Google Earth VR without getting queasy.

BadEngineering, do games w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

Having a fan blow into your face really helps too. I cant play more than 10 or 15 minutes without one, but with I'm fine for hours.

Cl1nk,

Which kind of fan do you use?

GBU_28,

Anybody really. Young, old, helps if they’re taller

GiuseppeAndTheYeti,

Ahh, the ol’ Lemmy faneroo.

Piemanding,

Hold my headset. I’m going in… ouch.

greavous,

Only

dinckelman, (edited )

If a game uses smooth locomotion, instead of teleportation based movement, I cannot play it without air blowing into my face, or sometimes been at all. Otherwise I have no issues at all

EmptyRadar, do gaming w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

I don't believe that stat, based on my own personal experience. I've been a VR user for close to 10 years now and I've introduced many, many people to it. I've only had one person feel sick in any way in that entire time.

deafboy, do games w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve never felt more sick than after trying the VR for the first time. GearVR on Samsung Galaxy S6. Never happened again though, regardless of how much time I spent in.

The main issue on this headset was that I felt like my head was really small, while turning. I think the camera was just rotating on it’s own axis, or around a sphere that was way smaller than a human head.

Maalus,

Phone VR isn’t really VR. It’s a poor excuse of an attempt. It’s pointless to compare gearvr to anything in the actual vr space.

deafboy,
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

The only difference between gear and quest, is that the phone cannot be taken out of the quest, plus it has more sensors.

Maalus,

There is a huge difference between gearvr and any sensible VR like the Vive, Pimax or Index. I’ve tried both. Gear made me almost barf immediately. I’m playing Project Wingman with no issue on the other headsets. There is a huge technological difference.

Lexam, do games w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

Yeah still have my Rift CV1, but it is sitting in a box.

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“leaked” email

Viking_Hippie, do games w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

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  • scrubbles,
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    Quit politics and rage baiting. Go find any of the other thousand threads

    Viking_Hippie,

    It was just a joke about how unpopular Congress in general is lol, you can relax 😄

    crimsdings,

    Go back to reddit please

    Viking_Hippie,
    slimerancher, do games w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it
    @slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

    I prefer AR over VR. AR can do tons of things, and you are aware of your surroundings too.

    Though, for gaming, VR makes more sense, but I don’t see it becoming dominant way of playing games any time soon. Maybe when we reach the point of full-body immersion like Matrix, or Sword Art Online.

    HidingCat,

    I don't think it'll be a dominant form really. It's a more immersive method, but not many games will need that. Even for me that is still thinking about picking one up, I mostly am looking at using it for seated cockpit play.

    BruceTwarzen, do games w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it

    There are definitely games that make me more suck than others. But even the "good ones" are kinda weird. Like I can't imagine playing a vr game for an hour or so. That's why i don't even bother anymore

    cottonmon,
    @cottonmon@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah. I can play Thrill of the Fight with no nausea after several matches. I also didn’t get sick from Vader Immortal or other games like Beat Saber or Crisis VRigade. Games where you move in-game but stay still in real life though, I feel like throwing up after a short time.

    Ultraviolet,

    Especially if there’s head bob. That simulates the exact difference in your senses of vision and balance that triggers seasickness.

    AdamantRatPuncher,

    minecraft gives me simulation sickness. Time 30 minutes and i’m done. The interesting part here is how it started doing it suddenly; i take a pause from videogames in general and now i’m even less used to full 3d. So hey, i can’t see myself using vr.

    candle_lighter, do gaming w VR still makes 40-70% of players want to throw up, and that's a huge problem for the companies behind it
    @candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

    Where does that statistic come from and why is the range so broad? I also don’t think it’s a big deal because even if you do get motion sick, after playing enough you don’t get motion sick anymore. (people in the vr community call it getting your vr legs)

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