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kaitco, do games w Star Wars Outlaws' $110 and $130 editions prompt a collective sigh from potential players tired of season passes and ill-advised early access periods

It’s completely asinine for a game to cost this much, especially since it is going to be chock full of equally asinine microtransactions and costly DLC.

The “patient games” methodology is the best way to approach all gaming these days because, odds are, the game won’t be worth the $20-30 later price point anyway.

Shyfer, do gaming w With a near-unprecedented official license for its fan server, one of PC gaming's great MMOs has a vibrant future: 'Let it be shouted far and wide: City of Heroes lives again'

Oh wow! I’ve always wasted to play this game.

rmuk,

Well, now is your chance.

Go hunt. Kill skuls.

Omgarm, do gaming w With a near-unprecedented official license for its fan server, one of PC gaming's great MMOs has a vibrant future: 'Let it be shouted far and wide: City of Heroes lives again'

I sank so much time in City of Villains and a bit in City of Heroes. Great to hear the fans achieving this! I looked into playing it again a few years ago but I don’t have MMO time/energy anymore.

Omgarm,

Actually fuck it, I just downloaded it.

Klear, do gaming w With a near-unprecedented official license for its fan server, one of PC gaming's great MMOs has a vibrant future: 'Let it be shouted far and wide: City of Heroes lives again'

Ross Scott is going to he be happy about this.

But this movement is still needed.

speck, do gaming w With a near-unprecedented official license for its fan server, one of PC gaming's great MMOs has a vibrant future: 'Let it be shouted far and wide: City of Heroes lives again'

Pretty stoked for this. The superhero genre seems strangely missing in gaming, barring IP related projects connected to DC and Marvel. This came the closest to matching the thrill of being a superhero, when it came out. Character creation was amazing, too

Cruxifux, do gaming w With a near-unprecedented official license for its fan server, one of PC gaming's great MMOs has a vibrant future: 'Let it be shouted far and wide: City of Heroes lives again'

I used to play this game so much as a kid. That’s pretty fucking sweet, I might check it out

magic_lobster_party, do gaming w With a near-unprecedented official license for its fan server, one of PC gaming's great MMOs has a vibrant future: 'Let it be shouted far and wide: City of Heroes lives again'

Wonderful news! I have never played and don’t intend to, but I’m happy for everybody involved.

Let’s hope the team will lead with example and that this event opens up for the possibility for other online games to be preserved in a similar fashion.

Obonga, do gaming w With a near-unprecedented official license for its fan server, one of PC gaming's great MMOs has a vibrant future: 'Let it be shouted far and wide: City of Heroes lives again'

Never played it but i am happy for the fans. I wish this would have been possible with Tera 😭

onlinepersona, do gaming w Larian publishing director on mass layoffs: 'None of these companies are at risk of going bankrupt. They were just at risk of pissing off the shareholders'

How difficult is it to start a gaming company with all those thousands of people who were fired? Can they get together and start something themselves?

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Urist,
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Sadly, they are most likely forced to sell their labor for survival short term and hence cannot even invest their own time for the purpose of making something truly great.

onlinepersona,

Quite depressing, actually 🙁 I’m sure giving a healthy working environment and good pay, they could make really amazing games.

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sukhmel,

On a tangential note, I doubt that the license you include will have any influence on people doing scraping for commercial AI :(

Also, I am not sure what is the default licence the content on forums/lemmy is posted under and if that can be changed by including an overriding licence 🤔

onlinepersona,

I doubt that the license you include will have any influence on people doing scraping for commercial AI :(

That doesn’t deter me. It’s just a keystroke to insert 🤷 If someday I read that the EU or the US decided anything can be used to train AI, then I’d stop.

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Urist,
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I like it. It reminds me that Lemmy is a small space and that people on the internet are not bots, so we have to be nice to each other :) Plus it is always fun seeing you around in different threads.

onlinepersona,

😄 thanks. Lemmy is really small if I’m recognizable just by my signature.

Have a good day!

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Philote, do gaming w Larian publishing director on mass layoffs: 'None of these companies are at risk of going bankrupt. They were just at risk of pissing off the shareholders'

I don’t work in the industry and I could be way off here. But aren’t some of the developers hired on as a type of contract worker to finish a big game and well aware that if the next project isn’t lined up perfectly, it’s impossible to house that many employees. That’s how our construction industry is. Companies have to hire on and then trim the fat as needed.

sukhmel,

As far as I know, it’s usually not so in gaming and in software in general. But since software is easier to abandon when you feel like it (I know buildings, too, sometimes stand incomplete for decades) so it is easier to suddenly close the project and say goodbye to everyone working on that project.

MoonMelon,

This is true. Some things are completely outsourced to vendor companies with their own employees. You rarely interact with these people at all, or even know their names. All communication goes through a telephone game. Then the primary studio itself will have contract employees and also “permanent staff”.

Management likes to go on and on about how staff are “family”, but then treat them like shit and lay them off anyway. They also like to be subtly shitty to contract workers whenever possible, like free donuts in the break room! (for staff only)

Really, management is just shitty to everyone. Having been in both positions I honestly prefer contract. At least then I’m not expected to participate in their “corporate culture”.

Modva, do gaming w Larian publishing director on mass layoffs: 'None of these companies are at risk of going bankrupt. They were just at risk of pissing off the shareholders'

Peoples jobs will always be sacrificed to make that quarterly earnings call sound sweet to investors.

Profits above all.

onlinepersona,

Even ditching quarterly reporting won’t help :/ Should the SEC ditch quarterly reporting?

IMO worker-owned businesses should be the future. There should also be a forced role-switch or shadowing for managers and workers, so that both understand better what each others respective jobs look like. Managers often think they should be earning their money because their work is more important and set the salaries as such: “Without me, you wouldn’t know what to do, so my job is more important should be compensated more”. They are out of touch with their workers and their realities.

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Modva,

Agreed, the first steps toward fixing this are much deeper.

thingsiplay, do gaming w Larian publishing director on mass layoffs: 'None of these companies are at risk of going bankrupt. They were just at risk of pissing off the shareholders'

Spitting facts.

PolandIsAStateOfMind, do gaming w Larian publishing director on mass layoffs: 'None of these companies are at risk of going bankrupt. They were just at risk of pissing off the shareholders'
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

The function of a public company is to create growth for its shareholders…

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And that’s fine

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Dammit the duality of man

Immersive_Matthew, do gaming w Larian publishing director on mass layoffs: 'None of these companies are at risk of going bankrupt. They were just at risk of pissing off the shareholders'

In my opinion game studios should not sell out to investors and/or have any stocks as it will lead to profit making the calls eventually. It is tempting to get a bunch of investment, I know it would make my game studio easier to run right now, but then you are constantly reminded how it all ends up. Don’t like the system, stop playing in it and build your company slowly and organically instead and retain full control.

Same goes for many businesses outside of gaming. Imagine if there was no such thing as the stock market / investors and all companies had to grow on their own merits.

In my virtual studio everyone is their own sole proprietorship contributing to the project off and on and getting compensated fairly for their contributions. They also have their own projects too and may even pay me to help them sometimes. This way everyone assumes their own risk and reaps their own benefits. If any one person on the virtual team has a hit with their project, they retain full control and owe no money back to some shareholders who did nothing but lend money to make money. It does mean I am way slower than if I could just hire everyone full time as employees, but knowing where having investors will ultimately take me, I accept. Plus going slower means more time to sit on things and polish and not feel time pressure to appease shareholders.

Shareholders are a little like getting a loan and depending on how successful you are, you have to pay back more than you borrowed and giving them control on your art. No thanks.

fckreddit,

The CEOs of these investor funded companies have forgotten that investors are not their customers, gamers are. This will hurt them in the long run because they are pissing off their customer base, people who really given them money to appease their shareholders. It never ends well for the companies.

jmcs,

The investors are the ones forgetting that. CEOs work for the investors not for the customers.

Now, a good CEO will be able to manage upwards and throw around things like reputational damage and consumer trust to convince to keep the investors focused on the long term in order to protect the company (and the investors uhh… investment). The problem in the gaming industry is that time and time again gamers show that there’s no such thing as reputational damage with games since there are enough people building their personality around a gaming franchise that even studios with a reputation for consistently putting out mediocre unoriginal crap can count on a mountain of pre-orders.

MajorHavoc,

Exactly. The last year of news full of mistreating game developers caused my to retune my news feeds and Steam wishlist to completely exclude all triple A titles.

There’s years and years worth of great gameplay I haven’t experienced yet in the Indie game market.

I suspect I’m not alone in that.

EveningPancakes, do games w The System Shock remake is getting a massive patch with a revised ending, choice of female player character '8 years in the making', and a significant quality of life improvement

How about fixing cloud saves between PC and Steam Deck?

Carighan,
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That’s probably on Steam, not Nightdive? After all it’s just uploading some files and downloading them again, something the steam client is supposed to do for you.

anyhow2503,

Cloud saves work fine between Linux PCs, but the devs seem to have misconfigured the save path for Steam cloud saves integration on Windows. That’s why it doesn’t work. That’s on the devs, not the Steam client. Apparently they were working on a fix since about half a year ago, maybe they finally released that fix now?

vikingtons,
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I think there’s mention of it in the release notes for 1.2?

EveningPancakes,

Nope, it’s a bug with how Nightdive coded the save path. Since they made a native Linux version of the game, Steam is using that as opposed to doing Proton compatibility. So that means the save paths in the Linux version and the Windows version aren’t the same, hence not syncing properly.

steamcommunity.com/app/…/3833172326398336232/

TurboHarbinger,

How about fixing the achievements too.

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