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grue, do gaming w And now you get the bad ending

In the biz, they call that “replayability.”

Anticorp, do gaming w And now you get the bad ending

What I love about BG3 is that there are no wrong decisions. Sure, every decision has a ramification, but nothing will break the game. You get the end you deserve based on the choices that you make along the way.

LucidNightmare,

I talked about my playthrough in the BG3 community, but I also love that I was able to be the best and most heroic hero the world ever saw, and then at the last minute choose to enslave everyone.

That was some of the best “play your way” gameplay I have ever experienced in a game man.

Anticorp,

They do a great job of making things feel real and meaningful too. My last playthrough was supposed to be an evil playthrough, but all of the characters are so real that I couldn’t do it. I actually killed Karlach and felt so bad about it that I reloaded and recruited her instead. This playthrough though, which is my 3rd one, I’m forcing myself to make different choices and I’m amazed at how much it changes the game. Like I betrayed the grove and Karlach somehow heard about it before I found her, so she was pissed and fought me instead of trying to join me. I also did the mushroom quests and then fireballed the group when they were all celebrating, just to see if it would let me, and it totally does. I love the freedom that they give you in this game.

LucidNightmare,

I have NEVER been successful in doing an evil play through.

Every time I try to do it, the first evil choice I do makes me nope out, reload, and do it the way I really would if I was my character. I just can’t play as anyone but myself unfortunately. 😭

Anticorp,

Me too usually. I’m still being a softy sometimes, but in most scenarios I’m forcing myself to make different decisions because I want to experience how it changes the game. I’m looking forward to recruiting Minthara soon.

Mithre,

There is that, but I feel the changes with Minthara count; I’d have liked to have had her as a companion, but I’d already killed her and was multiple hours into act 2 before the patch allowing her to be saved and recruited into any party was released.

Anticorp,

I mean, typically killing a character means they can’t join your party. How were you expecting to recruit her if you killed her? I’m actually doing my first fully evil durge playthrough right now and I’m looking forward to act two when I can recruit her.

Mithre,

Because I was playing a good character, which meant that if I wanted the tieflings to live then Minthara had to die. With the update, there is a canonical path for both the tieflings and Minthara to live.

Anticorp,

Ah, I am not familiar with that update. But why would you want an evil character in your party if you’re playing a good character?

Mithre,

Because I like having options, and I don’t like missing out on plot or dialogue if I don’t have to. She’s an interesting character that I think would have good interactions with the rest of the party.

Anticorp,

I’m about to move into act 2 on an evil playthrough, and I let her live, so I’m eager to recruit her for the first time. I killed her in my first two playthroughs.

Ibaudia, do gaming w And now you get the bad ending
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

Shout out to Deus Ex: Human Revolution for baiting me into thinking I could do a non-lethal playthrough and avoid combat.

There are forced boss fights in that game that require you to engage in firefights against bullet spongey enemies. I had put all my points into stealth. Not fun!!!

prof,
@prof@infosec.pub avatar

I feel you. There should have been an option to avoid those fights for the non lethal players.

Statlerwaldorf,

I feel like they did add that option but it was well after I finished it with the same problem.

techingtenor,

They did in the directors cut or whatever the revised version was called. They got so much flak for the boss fights (because they were contracted out it seems) that they redid them entirely like a year after the game came out.

sp3tr4l,

Yeah, the strat to beat them non lethal is basically unload all your massive lethal weaponry on them until they have a tiny bit of health, then tase or tranq or whatever non lethal right at the end.

Which is kind of lame, but it is basically the same as the few similar types of battles in the original Deus Ex, though some of those you can avoid various story paths or outright flee from them.

Out of curiosity… anyone know if it is even possible for Gunther to just not survive Liberty Island without you killing him?

Maybe set up TNT boxes that get shot by enemies as he escapes and blow him up? Or is he just invincible in the first level?

Trickloss,

Kinda the same with Dishonored. I finished the entire game and wondered why I didn’t get the non-lethal award.

Turns out that the tutorial that specifically told me to kill 2 guards in the beginning of the game counted.

Jessica,

I did this same thing in Undertale. I “killed” the training dummy in the tutorial and had 5xp the entire game. I was unable to do a pacifist run. I later found out you can’t do pacifist on your first run anyways so it kinda sorted itself out.

hydroptic,

I stopped playing the game after I ran into the first bullet sponge boss, tried several times to beat it with my all-stealth character and realized I’d probably have to start over

tigeruppercut,

I think they updated it at some point so stealth builds could be viable. Still a pretty big oversight for the devs to releases it initially without that consideration

ech,

If I remember right, that game also had bugs with knocked out enemies that made it just about impossible to get the non-lethal achievement (bosses don’t count towards it, fwiw).

Ibaudia,
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, corpses were prone to suddenly dying. Also the non-lethal achievement literally says “except for bosses” in it lol.

ech,

I know. That bit was for those unfamiliar with game and its achievements.

frankpsy, do gaming w And now you get the bad ending

I was playing through Xenoblade Chronicles 1’s post-endgame trying to do all the quests and because I didn’t know to steal a certain item from a certain enemy I now have to defeat a Lvl 120 boss that is the most powerful in the game to get one form of ultimate weapon. Not feeling like getting something like that after the fact, time to call it done and move onto the expansion.

andrewta, do gaming w And now you get the bad ending

Flash back to mass Effect. Make a wrong decision in Mass Effect 1 and it bites you in Mass Effect 3

ummthatguy,
@ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar

https://media1.tenor.com/m/IH29-hYOwggAAAAC/mass-effect-mordin-solus.gif

“Would have liked to run tests on the seashells”

Takios,
@Takios@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Choosing the good options leads to this though.

Carvex,

First playthrough I didn’t use a guide, shot Wrex, stuck with Ashley until I could ditch her in ME3, and lost almost everyone in the ending of ME2. Next playthrough much better!

andrewta,

The first play through is always rough, and in my opinion it should be. It makes it better that way.

HarriPotero, do gaming w A comical old game review for the Sims 2, ripping them for microtransactions.
@HarriPotero@lemmy.world avatar

I went sailing today.

ExcursionInversion,
@ExcursionInversion@lemmy.world avatar

How was your punch bowl filled with diamonds 1%er

HarriPotero,
@HarriPotero@lemmy.world avatar

Bittersweet. It was a shakedown sail with a surveyor. I’m selling my yacht because those microtransactions aren’t working out.

LaserTurboShark69, do gaming w A comical old game review for the Sims 2, ripping them for microtransactions.

The sad thing is that 60 digital outfits for $10 would seem like a good deal these days.

something_random_tho,

I’ll give you one digital outfit for $30. Final offer.

Sylvartas,

It has particle effects though !

Dr_Fetus_Jackson,

Best I can offer is $90 for a single jock strap.

rah, do gaming w A comical old game review for the Sims 2, ripping them for microtransactions.

Blimey, Steve Hogarty must have been going through a rough patch when that assignment came in.

Montagge,

He probably saw the future

someguy3, do gaming w A comical old game review for the Sims 2, ripping them for microtransactions.

You’d never be allowed to publish that today.

djsoren19,

Technically they weren’t even allowed to publish it back then, there were consequences from EA.

someguy3,

I mean the part about suicide.

Gullible, do gaming w A comical old game review for the Sims 2, ripping them for microtransactions.

When the review was first published in 2007, it was reported that Electronic Arts were not happy with the review and complained to the magazine’s publishers and editors, resulting in the reviewer no longer being asked or allowed to write reviews for any more The Sims titles.

And the world became a worse place for it.

nick, do gaming w A comical old game review for the Sims 2, ripping them for microtransactions.

Christ

themeatbridge, do gaming w A comical old game review for the Sims 2, ripping them for microtransactions.

Jesus that got dark.

RaoulDook,

LOL they hanged that motherfucker for making some crappy DLC. How the mighty have fallen, in the world of game journalism. Where’s their review of Horse Armour?

omega_x3, do gaming w Ignore me, I'm not here

NPC: hey buddy I know you just killed the world ending dragon but my shoe string broke and it would be dangerous to for me to walk to the other side of town to get a replacement string. Can you go get me the string? If you do this for me I give you an item that you have an inventory full of that you won’t use because you are saving them all for a tougher fight, even after beating the secret ultra hard boss and the final boss but there might still be a need.

Me: hell yes I’ll get your shoe string on the other side of the world if I had to. Don’t worry about giving me any money I maxed that out hours ago and can’t find anything to spend it on. Sure I’ll take the item, you never know when you might land in a fight where a potion that heal 1% saves me. Sorry about not talking to you 100 hours ago your character model looked kind of plain so I didn’t think you would have quest for me.

IDontHavePantsOn,

Me: I’ll be back in 20 to 30 minutes.

Also me: I know it’s only been 48 seconds, but I’m back with 2 shoelaces because, ya know, just in case.

Son_of_dad, do gaming w Please think of how your actions affect Gabe

It’s sickening how much people jerk this guy off cause he’s “a good billionaire”. There is no such thing as a good billionaire, they all got there by sealing from the workers below them. Steam workers aren’t allowed to unionize but Gabe gets to be a billionaire, fuck him.

reddithalation,

ok but have you used steam? it’s so much better than the alternatives. thats most of why people like him and valve

wizardbeard,

He founded Valve primarily with his own money and has ran it for most of it’s existence, allowing them to release games that were regularly groundbreaking.

Half Life brought us advances in AI, in simulating complex details like animal food chains, in making story part of the gameplay through seamless in engine cutscenes, in “seamless” level transistions. It nearly single handedly killed tje genre of arcadey “doom/quake likes” for literal decades.

Half Life 2 further heightened the bar of story in games, graphical effects, reconstruction of real faces in games, facial animations, mocap for games, and was one of the first well done use of a “modern” physics engine in games. There were news articles about the great leap forward it represented in tackling the “uncanny valley”.

Portal’s, well… Portals were groundbreaking. Left 4 Dead created the co-op horde shooter genre, further advanced AI with the “horde director” concept of an AI orchestrating the placement/amount of enemies, and was one of the first large scale examples of well done contextual dialog. Team Fortress 2 revolutionized the class based team shooter genre, and unfortunately popularized microtransactions for skins/unlocks forever. Half Life Alyx is the first “VR first/only” full length triple-A game.

There’s the Valve Index, pushing forward VR tech. The Steam Deck, pushing forward handheld computing (at least in terms of build quality/price/ease of use).

They bought the rights to Dota, the original Warcraft 3 mod that was the very first Moba game, and made a sequel to it. CounterStrike was one of the vanguards of the original rise of eSports and it’s latest sequel is still a major player in that scene.

Without all of their Source Engine games we wouldn’t have Garrys Mod and the huge cultural impact that it’s still having on the internet. Source Filmmaker brought 3D animation with effectively anything you could import into Garrys Mod into the hands of the masses, which has also had a massive impact on internet culture.

There’s a hell of a lot of reasons to love/respect Valve, and by extension it’s founder, besides just Steam.

sep,

Do not forget proton. Building on wine It made gaming on linux a breeze, and allowed me to play a lot more of games then i otherways would be able to.

ColeSloth,

You ever hear of mass layoffs at valve? You ever here of disgruntled employees? If them having incomes too low? Of any scandals?

The guy built and runs a private company. Doesn’t exploit his workers. Doesn’t try to influence government. Isn’t ripping anyone off. Promotes and invests in open source software. Gave permission for anyone who wants to use the os used on steam deck on any other handheld device, and here you are being pissed at him because his company is worth a lot.

mojofrododojo, do gaming w Please think of how your actions affect Gabe
@mojofrododojo@lemmy.world avatar

Respect, the man has the means to eat himself to death on the finest and took control of his body.

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