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reksas, do games w ARK DLC Trailer Slammed For Being Made Entirely Through Gen AI

anything ai generated just feels deeply wrong if its supposed to be anything other than wanting to see how some idea might look like. I dont listen to much music so ai generated music can sound pretty good to me, but even then I still notice that there is no unifying idea in the details, just bunch of random threads that go nowhere. There is no reason for anything to be there in ai generated content because there can’t be any reason since ai can’t do anything by itself. Its so stupid they even call it ai because there is no intelligence involved.

Hermit_Lailoken, do games w ARK DLC Trailer Slammed For Being Made Entirely Through Gen AI
@Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world avatar

Am I the only one that thinks AI art and videos and rad?

SolidShake,

Depends for me. I used AInto make a music video for one of my songs lol

Viri4thus,

It’s a complicated issue. In an extremely financialised economy like in western societies, a non insignificant portion of labour was detoured from productive useful work into entertainment and services. This labour is becoming more and more replaceable by NNs which threatens the jobs of bloggers, influencers, artists and the like. Personally, I think the negative sentiment is a mix of these people having privileged access to spread their message and the incompetence of governments legislating so that all these economic sectors don’t eschew workers resulting in massive unemployment and a further degradation of standards of living for a big slice of society.

Taking all that into consideration, I can’t help but feel a slight schadenfreude due to these sectors of society having hijacked the blue collar class struggle and shifting the left towards movements that are predominantly defending bourgeois causes and leaving the working class behind. I happily see more and more artists talking of unionisation and labour movements. Perhaps we can go back to mainstreaming relevant left wing talking points like minimum wages, labour unions, workers rights, et al. Group issues, rather than bourgeois issues that focus mostly on individuals.

MarcomachtKuchen,

The fact that this is possible is amazing to me. The fact that the whole trailer consists of nothing from the game but dreamt up fabrications of a random number generator with lots of training is not.

Games are an intentional art where a lot of creativity and work is put into a unique interactive medium. The AI trailer is far from that.

ArchmageAzor,
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

AI should be a tool, not a replacer.

Coelacanth,
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Intent is critical for my enjoyment of art. What makes art wonderful is that it lets you connect with another human being, get a glimpse into their mind, see their perspective, feel their feelings.

Gen AI as it exists today has no intent, so I have no interest in it.

NuXCOM_90Percent,

Generative AI “art” is incredibly useful for small creators to prototype works. Whether that is storyboarding/previs or making a presentation to show investors. It allows those small creators to make something “understandable” while keeping budgets down during the early days/years of a project.

Once that work is ready to be shown to the public? All work must have an actual creator. Whether that is an asset pack you purchased because it is “close enough” or an artist that you contracted/hired.

But also? Studio Wildcard (the company behind Ark) is very established and have been making games for over a decade at this point. They should have artists on staff who are already familiar with the style and design bibles of the Ark universe.

Hermit_Lailoken, (edited )
@Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world avatar

I like the idea of mixed media with AI and hand drawn/painted, or acrylic pour painting. I also like the idea of using AI for lyrical inspiration, like the cut ups process. Where words are written on paper, and they are cut up and mixed together like David Bowie, Eno, Brion Gysin, and Burroughs.

TimeSquirrel,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

It's because you didn't spend a significant portion of your life learning how to create things from, for lack of a better term, your soul, and then had a machine rip it all away from you. There are good things and bad things about gen-AI.

Hermit_Lailoken, (edited )
@Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world avatar

AI music is ass, so I can see what you mean about soullessness. This reminds me off Mass Effect 3, when they used AI for the faces and they were uncanny. They had to use a human touch to improve the facial gestures.

TiggerYumYum,

Huh? That didn’t happen with Mass Effect 3. The game released in 2012.

Hermit_Lailoken,
@Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world avatar

I meant Andromeda, now that I think about it. They used some program that made the faces odd. I assume it was AI, I could be wrong.

donuts,

What’s rad about a character holding a gun with three hands? It’s insulting to professional artists and the player base alike.

GenAI videos can be fun to use as inspiration, but you don’t collect a reel of shitty animations and call it a trailer. I don’t even play ARK and I feel bad for the players. They got served a shit sandwich.

Hermit_Lailoken,
@Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world avatar

Good point about the 3 hands.

icecreamtaco,
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

Good AI art should be completely invisible, like when romcom movies with no visible CGI are actually changing the entire sky in certain scenes. People were able to spot the flaws here instantly.

Or if you’re a 1 man studio living in their parent’s basement, go nuts with it. This is a gigantic company that could afford to hire humans.

Hermit_Lailoken,
@Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world avatar

I see, thank you for sharing your perspective with me.

LiveLM,

They’re cool, but using them to sell a product is bullshit

tulliandar, do games w ARK DLC Trailer Slammed For Being Made Entirely Through Gen AI

It’s like this VLDL video. They faked a whole game to get pre-sales: youtu.be/UfH3flBwfcs

Solemarc, do games w ARK DLC Trailer Slammed For Being Made Entirely Through Gen AI

Don’t really care that it’s genAI but It’s really weird that the only part of the trailer that’s obviously gameplay is the first few seconds…

TheEighthDoctor, do games w ARK DLC Trailer Slammed For Being Made Entirely Through Gen AI

I bought ARK, I played many hours, and the day they launched a paid DLC to an Early Access game was the day I uninstalled it forever

ArchmageAzor, do games w ARK DLC Trailer Slammed For Being Made Entirely Through Gen AI
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

They might just as well show a slideshow of concept art, that’s all they’re doing. At no point are they showing what they actually have or are going to do, just what they want to do.

v4ld1z, do games w Exclusive - Until Dawn Remake Developer Ballistic Moon “Effectively Closed”

I’d laugh if this weren’t so sad. Sounds like Sony is doing what they can to can any developer under their umbrella. Although, that’s more of a Microsoft thing, sad to see this happen so frequently

warmaster, do games w Mecha BREAK Open Beta Hits 317,000 Concurrent Players on Its First Day

I think Steam should ban all kernel level AC games. Unaware users shouldn’t be exposed.

CosmicCleric, (edited ) do games w Mecha BREAK Open Beta Hits 317,000 Concurrent Players on Its First Day
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Whomever runs that website should try opening that page using the DuckDuckGo Firefox Android mobile browser. It needs some work.

unexposedhazard,

I think your browser might just be fucky wucky. Looks and behaves fine to me.

https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/310e614d-6ea7-4d79-8e61-393a69f39d01.png

CosmicCleric, (edited )
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I don’t know, I just used the stock Firefox app. I’m using Bitwarden and uBlock Origin extensions. /shrug

What I long press then ‘open in a new tab’ what see is something trying to do a pop up and then it interacts with the slide-out side panel, and the side panel doesn’t collapse all the way so it’s just long vertical side panel bar, that’s showing the right side of a search box with the magnifying glass, and it covers about 1/5 of the screen so it makes it really hard to read the article.

KITA,

I’m using the same setup as you with no issues. Not sure what’s causing it for you.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Cookie settings would be my guess; not privacy friendly site maybe.

thermal_shock,

Mines fine also, ublock origin and a few other small plugins

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Any thoughts then and what could affect one Android app but not all the other installations of the same Android app?

As a software developer, I can’t think of very many, assuming we’re both correct about having the exact same extensions installed and using the same version of the browser.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

thermal_shock,

No idea. does it look weird in the other browsers?

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

No idea. does it look weird in the other browsers?

I only have Firefox installed, and not going to bother diagnosing the problem by installing others, as I don’t have the same problem with other web sites using Firefox/Android.

At least, I wouldn’t want to bother diagnosing the problem until they paid me my hourly rate. 😜

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en

krebssteven, do games w Mecha BREAK Open Beta Hits 317,000 Concurrent Players on Its First Day
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This is yet another predatory cheap asiagrinder with an invasive kernel level ‘anticheat’. Stuff like this should not be promoted. At all.

baines,

how can you tell it’s using something ring0 wish steam was more clear about this shit

Alexstarfire,

DRM is usually known for big games before they are released. You can find articles about how the DRM works online. If it’s a new type of DRM, they usually describe how it works.

baines,

yea I found it searching for the game name + ring0

but if I didnt already know steam has nothing

annoying to haven to research this issue now for every game I buy

osprior,

Steam has it listed on the demo, and it will likely be listed upon release, not sure what their stance is on pre-release, but this is a requirement now on steam to list it.

baines,

how is it listed? maybe Im blind

osprior,

It’s under the features section (where it says co-op, controller support etc.). Should be highlighted in yellow for all 3rd party requirements (including kernel and non-kernel anti-cheat).

KITA,

I don’t think anti chest should be in stuff like singleplayer or co-op games but competitive pvp multiplayer games it absolutely is and should continue to be the standard whether you like it or not.

Zoot,
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Not kernel level anti cheat though.

krebssteven,
@krebssteven@lemmy.world avatar

So you like giving some random company access to your OS kernel?

You don’t need that for anticheat software and the security risks involved in this day and age practically forbids it.

M137,
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

How did you miss the important specificity of “kernel level”? No one is hating on “normal” anti-cheat, but kernel level is not acceptable, which is why just that has been the thing people have hated for several years.

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w Mecha BREAK Open Beta Hits 317,000 Concurrent Players on Its First Day

Saw a sponsored twitch stream of it yesterday. The stat changing mods on lootboxes is suspicious as hell and goes against the “no pay to win” promise they stated a while back

On a side note, This game is unbelievably horny goo(ne)d god

ArchmageAzor, do games w Mecha BREAK Open Beta Hits 317,000 Concurrent Players on Its First Day
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

I played Mecha Break during the first closed Beta, and it was so much fun. I didn’t even know there was an open beta on now.

sexy_peach, do games w Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 Has Sold 2 Million Units in 2 Weeks
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It’s has insane graphics and is quite well made. I’ve been watching let’s plays even though I don’t particularly like the medieval setting.

Hubi,
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It’s definitely much more polished than the first installment. I’ve played for around 40 hours so far and can probably count the bugs I’ve encountered so far on one hand.

NotSteve_,

Is it the same combat system as the first? No matter how hard I tried, it just wouldn’t click for me. Ended up modding myself invincible in order to beat the game…

I’ll do it again too if I need to because I love everything else about the game, but I’d prefer not to

zxy,

It’s marginally better, but mostly the same. Starts off incredibly hard, ends up incredibly easy.

Hubi,
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It gets too easy too fast IMO. I haven’t done much of the main quest yet but I’m already a invincible human tank and killing armored enemies with single hits. I might swap my sword with a lower tier weapon to get a bit of the challenge back.

bigboismith,

I’d say it’s slightly easier, but you should remember that avoiding combat is not only an option but sometimes recommended.

Edit. Also remember that when you get the opertunity to practice spar, do it. You don’t just train your ingame character but also yourself.

Fiivemacs, do games w Modding Is Coming To Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2

Come on…someone fix the annoying combat system and make it like a game, not a chore. It’s the only reason I won’t play, the combat is just garbo

Tolstoy,
@Tolstoy@lemmy.world avatar

The nice part: you don’t have to engage into combat. You can talk your way out or maybe, what will suit you more, use poison and be friend with the shadow.

Sunny, do games w Modding Is Coming To Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2
@Sunny@slrpnk.net avatar

Enjoyed modding in kcd1 one too, this will be great!

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