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Coreidan, do games w Morpheus Actor Laurence Fishburne Reveals He Was Turned Down for The Matrix Resurrections — So He Might Not Be Back for Matrix 5 Either - IGN [Morpheus' character dies in The Matrix Online]

That’s ok. The movie will be terrible no matter who plays the role.

Couldbealeotard, do games w Morpheus Actor Laurence Fishburne Reveals He Was Turned Down for The Matrix Resurrections — So He Might Not Be Back for Matrix 5 Either - IGN [Morpheus' character dies in The Matrix Online]
@Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world avatar

Fishburne was very diplomatic when asked for his opinion on the finished Matrix 4: “it was better than I expected, but not as good as I had hoped”.

Hugo weaving, the actor for Smith, didn’t appear in the film due to alleged scheduling conflicts, but I suspect he took a look at the script and noped out of it.

It’s a shame, it could’ve been good.

4am,

No way Lana Wachowski didn’t fucking tank Matrix 4 on purpose. It’s even in the fucking dialog it couldn’t be more clear

Zahille7,

This has to be it. I watched the RLM video where they say the same thing, then I watched the movie for myself and in the first five minutes of dialog when the new Smith says “our bosses at Warner Brothers” and I was just like “ooookay”

RampantParanoia2365,

Didn’t he not even want to do Infinity War and Endgame, which were actually solid stories? I have a feeling he wants no part of The Matrix at this point.

ragas,

So he was expecting a major shitshow and was positively surprised that it was just a bit of smelly poop?

kopasz7, do games w Morpheus Actor Laurence Fishburne Reveals He Was Turned Down for The Matrix Resurrections — So He Might Not Be Back for Matrix 5 Either - IGN [Morpheus' character dies in The Matrix Online]

That’s actually crazy to me. There must be some untold personal reason.

spankmonkey,
@spankmonkey@lemmy.world avatar

I assume it was because the story involved everyone around Trinity and Neo being different/recast.

TachyonTele, do games w Morpheus Actor Laurence Fishburne Reveals He Was Turned Down for The Matrix Resurrections — So He Might Not Be Back for Matrix 5 Either - IGN [Morpheus' character dies in The Matrix Online]

No worries, Fishburne. I doubt anyone in the general public will return for a Matrix 5 either.

DaMonsterKnees,
@DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world avatar

You’re done today soldier, go home. Spot on!

TachyonTele,

o7

atro_city,

They really are trying to milk everything out of that franchise and doing a terrible job at doing so.

protist,

Franchise?

atro_city,

Correct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix_(franchise)

A media franchise, also known as a multimedia franchise, is a collection of related media in which several derivative works have been produced from an original creative work of fiction, such as a film, a work of literature, a television program, or a video game. Bob Iger, chief executive of the Walt Disney Company, defined the word franchise as "something that creates value across multiple businesses and across multiple territories over a long period of time."[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_franchise

protist,

Wow, thank you for the definition of the word franchise, I had no idea /s

atro_city,

> asks question as if they don't know what it means

> gets a frank response with definition

> pretends they knew all along

protist,

It was a joke, because everything after the first movie might as well not exist. Apparently it wasn’t received.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea,

    Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea,

    It was a single word, Franchise? . Getting a sarcastic answer is absolutely expected.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea,

    Is that how you treat people in your daily life?

    No. I also generally don’t do it online.

    Is that just normal behavior to you?

    Sadly, yes. Especially online.

    The original question was completely lacking enough context to understand the intent. Here are two reasonable interpretations:

    • sarcastic - it’s pretty popular to ignore anything other than the first movie and maybe the animated series, Animatrix
    • unaware - the games weren’t all that popular, and they weren’t that good either

    I understand not wanting to step into potential troll bait. So the sarcastic response, while not appreciated, is completely understandable.

    LandedGentry,

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  • sugar_in_your_tea,

    Troll the troll.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m still not sure why this is in the games community.

    celeste,
    @celeste@kbin.earth avatar

    I guess he canonically dies in a videogame, which is a reason they might not bring him back

    Flemmy,

    Because in videogame Deus Ex was better ha (and Max Payne)

    citizensongbird,

    My understanding is that’s deliberate. The Wacowskis were done with The Matrix, the original trilogy (+ Animatrix) was the complete package. But the powers that be demanded more to milk the franchise, and when the Wacowskis tried to push back, the higher-ups said they would do it with or without them. So the Wacowskis are deliberately sabotaging the sequels, and good on em.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    The fourth movie was written by one of the Wachowskis as a metaphor for their own transition, as a creative outlet during a grieving period after the death of their parents.

    Zahille7,

    I thought the original trilogy was supposed to be the metaphor for transitioning.

    At least that’s what the Wachowskis themselves and the Internet say.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    As I recall them saying, they felt that way maybe in retrospect? They hadn’t transitioned in real life by then, so that’s getting pretty subconscious at that point. At the time, the metaphors that were clear were about dreams, the savior allegory, a sense of not mattering as a cog in the machine, and so forth.

    RampantParanoia2365,

    I think modern society and technology may have played a role, too.

    TachyonTele,

    Did you watch the movie? It’s not a metaphor, it flatly states it’s just a money grab.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    I did. Its cynicism about making another Matrix movie is well-noted and some of the most fascinating things about that movie, but it’s also a protagonist swap between Neo and Trinity, which makes a ton of sense for the trans metaphor. It can be cynical about the realities of making the movie and still not be sabotage. And also it was only written by one of the two Wachowskis.

    Yawweee877h444,

    I’m still definitely gonna watch it. It’ll be bad, but I’m gonna watch it.

    Not like in the theater for money. After it’s floating out on the high seas.

    But even if it’s bad it’s still a nostalgia trip back to something that was undeniably amazing.

    I saw matrix 4 twice and liked it. Sue me. Fight me lol

    TachyonTele,

    I would too. That’s how i watched the 4th movie.

    I was obviously taking about in the theatre.

    ampersandrew,
    @ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

    In general, people aren’t returning to the theater for much of anything anymore.

    TachyonTele,

    I like to boil my porogies, just till they float, then saute them to add some structure to the dough.

    Elevator7009,

    Is this a metaphor I do not understand? Seems like you might have accidentally posted in the wrong community if not.

    dan69,

    OG cast or bust!!

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    Hyphlosion, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

    We’re only paying a measly $70 for the Switch 2 version. Just get a third job and be grateful for the opportunity to purchase the DLC at $20. Then you can use the last of your hundred dollar bill for that one tech demo game!

    spicystraw, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

    I got a hunch that the team behind prepping the game for new hardware just didn’t have enough time to polish the port for DLC as well.

    The outrageous prices are provably set by sales and/ or upper management anyway.

    I kind of don’t get the urge for buying BotW on switch 2 if you alredy have it on original. Why not save your money on new games to play that are coming for thw system?

    melfie, (edited ) do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

    I’ve been a huge Zelda fan since I was a kid, but I played BotW in 2016 and found it playable, but way overrated. Not a 10/10 masterpiece, more like 8/10. I have yet to even bother with TotK. I am also a huge Metroid fan, but Prime 4 seems like just more of the same.

    After playing both KCD and KCD2, for example, Zelda games just seem lacking in depth in comparison. I don’t know, maybe Nintendo is past their prime—either that, or I’ve just played too many of their games and am bored of them now.

    The fact that they seem to be screwing the pooch with their latest console maybe means they’ll stop being arrogant and lower their prices, but I’ll be emulating their games only from now on anyway.

    But_my_mom_says_im_cool, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

    lol the Nintendo hate is so odd, 99% of games do. It come with the dlc. Unless you buy a season pass additionally. Why only call out Zelda for something that is normal and has been for a long time?

    This sub has Nintendo derangement syndrome

    WarlordSdocy,

    I mean generally if a company releases their game on a new console years after the original game came out it does include the DLC and is like a definitive edition. At least that’s how I remember it used to be when I actually bought console games.

    callouscomic, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

    Morons will still throw cash at them.

    cyberpunk007, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

    Ya not sure if I’ll ever get a switch 2. I played the living shit out of my switch 1. Easily was my favourite console… Until I got a steam deck. Instantly I have over 1,000 games purchased already and a hefty percentage of them playable.

    …not to mention the switch games that are still sitting on my shelf that I just play on here instead.

    hal_5700X, do games w The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Won't Include the DLC

    The more Nintendo talks, the worst it gets.

    RebekahWSD, do games w Baldur's Gate 3's Huge Patch 8 and Its 12 New Subclasses Are Coming April 15
    @RebekahWSD@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t think I’m getting to room 46 in Blue Prince before then…oh no

    simple,

    Probably not hah, I’ve been playing Blue prince as well and it goes way deeper than it looks.

    RebekahWSD,
    @RebekahWSD@lemmy.world avatar

    I shockingly got there yesterday by whoopsing into it! On day like 86!

    Leorhall, do games w Baldur's Gate 3's Huge Patch 8 and Its 12 New Subclasses Are Coming April 15
    @Leorhall@lemmy.world avatar

    This is exciting! I have been waiting so long for cross play so I can get a game going.

    Kolanaki, do games w Baldur's Gate 3's Huge Patch 8 and Its 12 New Subclasses Are Coming April 15
    @Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

    More new content? God damn, how many times am I supposed to play this game? They haven’t even dropped DLC yet!

    Wisens,
    @Wisens@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    The CEO said they wouldn’t.

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