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DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w The Way Forward, an update from the team behind Cities: Skylines

This screams so damn fake. If they ever wanted to make a good game, they should have made it before releasing it, let alone prioritising DLC for a game they are more than aware of being borked at release.

Reawake9179,

Yeah it’s the same bullshit again, easy skip in my books

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

I wouldn’t expect any different from Colossal Order, given its close ties with Paradox Interactive: they don’t care about making good games, they care about milking the players.

FiniteBanjo, do games w The Way Forward, an update from the team behind Cities: Skylines

NGL I wast pretty excited to play Cities Skylines a few years ago, but the EA style DLC market is disgusting.

BaardFigur, do games w The Way Forward, an update from the team behind Cities: Skylines

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  • rickyrigatoni,

    That’s what every apology is.

    slumberlust,

    That’s not true. Intent matters, accidents do happen.

    DreamlandLividity,

    When corporations acting in their best interest also act in the consumers best interest, the system is working as it should.

    Intent matters for individuals, not for societal systems like governments and corporations. Incompetent governments/corporations need to be removed just as much as evil ones.

    Sorgan71,

    thats how most people behave most of the time.

    Phil_in_here,

    Rather, they’re not sorry they tried to scam you, they’re sorry it didn’t work.

    Krakaval, do games w The Way Forward, an update from the team behind Cities: Skylines

    It’s not the devs who are to blame for this fiasco. The management who pushed for releasing unfinished product is. There were some people sitting in a meeting room who decided that it was a good idea to publish a worthless DLC. Change is needed at management level.

    The apology looks like honest but some part of me feels like they are sorry because their strategy for ripping our wallets did not work as expected.

    I’m not planning to buy any Paradox game in the future.

    dinckelman, do games w Prison Architect 2 Has Been Delayed Indefinitely, Pre-Orders Are Being Refunded

    I really loved the first game, but have zero faith in the sequel. I think the whole 3d rework makes no sense, and on top of that, it’s led by a company, that’s historically made the worst choices in every aspect of development

    FunnyUsername, do games w The Way Forward, an update from the team behind Cities: Skylines
    @FunnyUsername@lemmy.world avatar

    This team has been making the exact same game for multiple decades. Look at this developer’s game history. It is literally the same exact game redeveloped over and over every few years and then they repackage and resell the same DLCs for the new versions. What a con of a game dev.

    intensely_human,

    That’s not a con, that’s someone perfecting their art.

    FunnyUsername,
    @FunnyUsername@lemmy.world avatar

    Oh so Cities II is better than 1 across the board? And the Hobbit movies were better than lotr? I feel like you’re being a tad naive.

    yildolw,

    13 years since Cities in Motion 1 is not multiple decades, and Cities in Motion 1 is in no way the same game as Cities Skylines

    FunnyUsername,
    @FunnyUsername@lemmy.world avatar

    So you think they’ve been making entirely new games for their entire existence? You don’t think it’s conny at all that literally all they do is make city builders and sell DLCs and then make a new one when interest dries up? Doesn’t seem very creative or innovative in my opinion it sounds like pure capitalism. Publisher is a microcosm EA.

    weeahnn, do games w Cities Skylines 2: "Beach properties assets are all gone and my city is screwed. Thanks a lot."
    @weeahnn@lemmy.world avatar

    This will only stop once the DLCs start rolling out in earnest. (Or probably not, it’s PDX)

    Its kinda crazy how badly CS2 got messed up.

    Harbinger01173430, do games w The Way Forward, an update from the team behind Cities: Skylines

    Stellaris optimization update, when?

    Montagge,

    NEVER!

    Nithanim, do games w The Way Forward, an update from the team behind Cities: Skylines

    I did not even know that a DLC came out. I am sure I would have if it was good news because streamers I follow would have tested it.

    But it is so sad. I really liked cities skylines because it basically is what I wanted from sim city. But with a million mods it would always break at certain points and force me to stop playing. I had such high hopes with 2 but seeing this game at launch and now seemingly still broken is so… well I am not really sure how I (should) feel.

    The good thing is, that I do not have to keep reading and researching but rather wait for some “news” to pop up in my feed again. So I can get back to forgetting about it.

    Dendr0, do games w Cities Skylines 2: "Beach properties assets are all gone and my city is screwed. Thanks a lot."

    CO and Paradox are a public joke at this point. The only value they bring to the gaming community these days is the entertainment derived from shitting on their inept public relations.

    Nibodhika, do games w Cities Skylines 2: "Beach properties assets are all gone and my city is screwed. Thanks a lot."

    Long story short:

    1. CO released an unoptimized game
    2. Community complained
    3. CO vowed to fix it before releasing DLCs
    4. CO released an assets only DLC
    5. Community complained they broke their promise
    6. CO tried to explain it’s different teams
    7. Community kept complaining
    8. CO refunded the DLC for everyone and removed it from Steam and will add the content for free in the next update
    9. Community gets refund and assets become gray boxes until the new version is released
    10. Community complains about grey boxes

    Yes, CO did bad releasing an unoptimized game, but if you put pressure for a cosmetic DLC to be removed you can’t be angry that they removed said DLC.

    FooBarrington,

    Yes, CO did bad releasing an unoptimized game, but if you put pressure for a cosmetic DLC to be removed you can’t be angry that they removed said DLC.

    I strongly disagree with this for two reasons:

    1. Nobody put pressure on them to remove the content from the game. “Removing the DLC” can be done in productive or non-productive ways, the latter of which happened here - a better solution would be to set it as non-buyable on Steam and wait with refunds until the patch has been released which allows people to continue playing.
    2. It’s not just grey boxes (which would be bad enough on its own - these people paid for the content, there’s no technical reason for them not to have it right now) - the CO employee literally says:

    Assets are replaced by the placeholder boxes, but as the waterfront zoning isn’t available in the base game yet, I recommend holding off on loading saves with a lot of those zones.

    So the people who bought the shitty DLC, as in the die-hard fans, can’t play on their saves due to COs fuckup.

    Gabu, do games w The Way Forward, an update from the team behind Cities: Skylines

    Meanwhile, Indie games: Yeah, we fixed the wonky balancing with that super niche strategy and we’re working on 3 new DLCs (all free, btw)

    Lootboblin, do games w Prison Architect 2 Has Been Delayed Indefinitely, Pre-Orders Are Being Refunded
    @Lootboblin@lemmy.world avatar

    Paradox: can you show us the DLC content?, PA2: No, we want to make the base game first, Paradox axe: wrong answer

    Lizardking27, do games w Cities Skylines 2: "Beach properties assets are all gone and my city is screwed. Thanks a lot."

    Only someone with zero context would try to claim that. You must be completely unfamiliar with paradox games.

    LeopardStripesx3, do gaming w Cities Skylines II Development Diary #1: Road Tools

    I’m so happy to see a thread about Cities Skylines here! And one with plenty of reactions and comments.

    I was worried the community would vanish along with Reddit and I would have go elsewhere to get my complex intersection fix…

    r0bbbo,

    Me too—I was saddened when r/CitiesSkylines didn’t take part in the blackout. A community for a game that became as successful as it is in part due to the hard work of unpaid third-party developers should have been at the forefront of the protests

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