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Pratai, do games w Cyberpunk's storytelling makes Starfield seem ancient

Bethesda makes Starfield seems ancient.

rikudou,
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They’re good at that. I remember trying Skyrim when it was new and we all didn’t know there would be like 15 rereleases and it felt weirdly dated. I couldn’t really put my finger on why, it just felt old.

kurcatovium,

It felt like Oblivion reskin.

And Oblivion felt basically like Morrowind reskin with more polygons…

tdawg,
@tdawg@lemmy.world avatar

And less rpg :(

kurcatovium,

Sadly yes. Morrowind was Bethesda’s peak gaming moment tbh.

Shialac, do games w Cyberpunk's storytelling makes Starfield seem ancient

well, yeah. It’s a Bethesda game, of course their storytelling is bland af

Xanthrax,
@Xanthrax@lemmy.world avatar

I know everyone says it, but FUCK they should let Obsidian do the writing, and they need to drop that ancient game engine. Microsoft has probably killed this company.

Fallout: New Vegas had some of their best story telling. The Outer Worlds had awesome lore too. I’m really surprised they didn’t bring them along.

ninjan, do games w Cyberpunk's storytelling makes Starfield seem ancient

Mass Effect and Dragon Age makes Cyberpunks story telling feel ancient as well in my very firm opinion.

GentlemanLoser,

You’re welcome to your opinion but those are some old games. Are you sure it’s better or is it nostalgia?

Shalakushka, (edited )
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I just replayed DAO last year. It holds up in a way Cyberpunk didn't manage on its first play through. The rest of the series is a trash fire though. Mass Effect is forgettable outside of the excellent world building of the first game.

drekly,

Yeah nobody knew how to tell stories 10 years ago, it’s only thanks to new storytelling technology that cyberpunk can tell such a boring story with barely any variations. (YOUR BACKGROUND WILL SHAPE YOUR STORY! lol)

Chozo,

Barely any variations? Did you even finish the game?

There's several significantly different paths you can wind up going down in the end. Like, incredibly different endings. And your actions do influence how those endings all play out, too.

LagrangePoint,

I hear this argument from people who played the background prologues and thought those were the major decisions in Cyberpunk. Mild spoiler alert to anyone who hasn’t played: they are essentially short tutorials, not major storylines.

GentlemanLoser,

I didn’t say anything like that. I’m asking you if you’re judging newer games against your nostalgic view of how good those games were. But you’re weirdly defensive about it so go jerk off to female Shepherd and come back with that post nut clarifty

drekly,

I am not the same person

nicman24,

mass effect 3 story was shit

dylanTheDeveloper,
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We got like 3 colors

1984, do games w Microsoft expected to finally buy Activision Blizzard next week
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

It’s fine, they already turned into shit.

Microsoft will make it worse but it’s easy to avoid this stuff, unlike Github.

derpgon,

I’d argue GitHub is one of those project they didn’t absolutely fuck up.

s_s,
@s_s@lemmy.one avatar

yet

derpgon,

Well, it’s been a few years already, and no enshitification yet.

Tlaloc_Temporal,
@Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca avatar

They owned Minecraft for… 4? 5? years before enshitifying it. There is no time limit for enshitification.

derpgon,

True. I forgot about that since I haven’t played on public MP server fot quite a while now, usually just vanilla/modded with friends.

thorbot, do games w Cyberpunk's storytelling makes Starfield seem ancient

Starfield is ancient according to the developers, they’ve been working on it for 25 years

kurcatovium,

If this is work of 25 years, it’s honestly quite sad.

msage,

It’s always like this.

When you work on something for longer than 5 years, the tech and expectations from competing games will run ahead of you.

And you can’t just rewrite the story and engine and map and characters every time you get delayed.

So you should just shoot every AAA project that lags more than 5 years on the spot. It’s way too late for it at that time. And start from market analysis, not just rewriting everything in the ‘current engine and style’.

samus12345,
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Or don’t use an engine that was already over 5 years out of date when you started the project.

msage,

Hey, Bethesda is already on life support, no need to punch down

Whirlybird, do games w Xbox Series X/S players feel forgotten by Rockstar after Red Dead Redemption 60fps PS5 port

Not sure why some people are blaming Microsoft for this, they’ve got nothing to do with it. Their amazing backwards compatibility allowed people to play RDR on their consoles for years at 4K already, but rockstar are the ones that chose to not release the port on Xbox.

switches, do gaming w Dave the Diver getting crabs, lobsters, new missions, and more in October content update
@switches@kbin.social avatar

god i love dave the diver glad to see more coming along. i need two more achievements to perfect it still, so any excuse to go back is a good one lol

DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w Cyberpunk's storytelling makes Starfield seem ancient - Opinion

Starfield made Starfield feel ancient by being entirely unoptimised.

Kanda, do games w Microsoft expected to finally buy Activision Blizzard next week

Will it then be MicrosoftActivisionBlizzatd?

520,

Nah, it's an acquisition, not a merger

shasta,

So they’ll just call it Microsoft. Got it.

superpants, do games w Microsoft expected to finally buy Activision Blizzard next week

I only care if MS makes blizz bring back OW1

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Getting rid of Bobby Kotic would be priority number one if you ask me.

Phegan,

The problem is, even if they get rid of bobby kotick, he still wins. He is going to walk a way with millions of dollars in a separation agreement.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Let me dream of some clause in this contract which he breached and no one dared point it out. Ruined reputation or something.

regbin_,

Why do you want OW1 back?

superpants,

Because I paid for it

regbin_,

I paid for Overwatch too but tbh I’d rather have Overwatch 2. There’s no loot box bullcrap and the playerbase now is actually pretty sizeable now compared to OW1 near the end.

I do miss the free rewards but they’re just cosmetics. A bigger playerbase is more beneficial to the game than more free skins.

Kolanaki, do gaming w Cyberpunk's storytelling makes Starfield seem ancient - Opinion
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Starfield is the first and only Bethesda game I haven’t really liked. It’s got all the same gameplay elements, but it’s lacking the world building and interesting stories. The lore is bland as fuck, barely scratches the surface of what you’d want to know, and none of the stories really lean into actually telling you about the world in a fun way, opting instead to give big blocks of dialogue that are nothing but history and exposition. Where is the environmental story-telling they’ve always had? Is the blandness of the world simply a matter of it being new and young and not having nearly as much history as Elder Scrolls and Fallout to build on? Have they simply lost their touch? Believe me, I have tried to like this game. I am a huge fan of space stuff and Bethesda games, but it just doesn’t have that certain something that makes their games actually fun.

Cethin,

It’s really strange. The area under the main NC city was pretty good. It had character. Locations felt like they belonged and not just stuck there because they needed something there. It tells you a story about the people who live there. It’s literally the only place in the game that does this that I’ve seen. I don’t understand how so much went wrong with Starfield.

KeenFlame,

Hint: the previous games weren’t exactly amazing at this either. Worse, in many areas. It’s quite rose tinted from nostalgia

Kolanaki,
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Regardless of the quality of the writing, they certainly had more interesting ideas in their lore and settings that added something to the experience. That’s what Starfield is lacking.

Disgusted_Tadpole, do games w Microsoft expected to finally buy Activision Blizzard next week
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Activision Blizzard has become such a huge pile of disgusting shit that people are quite tempted to see what would happen if the devil Microsoft buys it.

What a time to be alive

MeanEYE,
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Yeah, never thought I’d live the day to see it but here we are. Blizzard use to be the darling of all gamers, only one who did things right and released games when they were actually done. Then money hungry shitheads took over.

KingThrillgore,
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Absolutely nothing.

Clbull,

I’m just happy to potentially see Bobby Kotick, Ion Hazzikostas, Mike Ybarra, etc ousted.

Don’t get me wrong. Fifteen years ago I would have flipped if Microsoft put in a bid to buy Vivendi and get their paws on Blizzard, after seeing how badly they ruined Rare. Activision tanked the brand so bad that I’m actually rooting for Microsoft.

LetMeEatCake,

I don’t think Kotick is at all certain to be kicked out. As easily as I can see MS letting him go with an enormous golden parachute, I can just as easily imagine them keeping him onboard because all they care about is Activision’s ability to make money.

In all likelihood Blizzard isn’t going to be managed any differently. Microsoft’s modus operandi with gaming acquisitions is to leave the leadership in place and let the dev/publisher run itself. Why is everyone expecting different here? The most likely outcome is MS does nothing to Blizzard and Blizzard continues on more or less the same trajectory as before.

ShaunaTheDead, do gaming w Dave the Diver getting crabs, lobsters, new missions, and more in October content update
@ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social avatar

I can't believe I'm saying this, but maybe they shouldn't release even more content. That game is jam packed already!

You think you're done and then BAM! you're running a fish farm and an actual farm, then BAM! you're running errands for a mermaid kingdom, BAM! you're doing a whole side quest under the ice sheet, BAM! you're opening branches of the sushi restaurant... etc, etc, etc...

I love to see a game with tons of a content but I fear they may have overdone it a bit.

HawlSera, do games w Microsoft expected to finally buy Activision Blizzard next week

Please I’m begging you just fire everyone who works at blizzard

Cethin,

The decisions made do not reflect what the developers want. Honestly, they’ve done a good job. Blizzard has just made them make shitty things. Technically they are good games, just not as an experience.

PraiseTheSoup,

Warcraft reforged barely even functions compared to the original game that they ruined. The whole company is trash from the top to the bottom.

crius,

This is classic ignorant take of the average user that don’t know how corporate gaming industry works.

The “developers”, the actual engineers, don’t decide shit, some manager that only care for what the higher ups are telling them. And what the higher ups are telling is the same in all corporates: Increase the cash flow.

regbin_,

Overwatch 2 is great so it’s not all bad.

averyminya, do gaming w Hands-on with AMD FSR 3 frame generation - taking the fight to DLSS 3

I can’t wait to use FSR 3 with Intel XSEE on my NVIDIA card, locked out of frame gen!

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