lorkano

@lorkano@lemmy.world

Profil ze zdalnego serwera może być niekompletny. Zobacz więcej na oryginalnej instancji.

lorkano,

Why would they shake? If anything they are happy because we will get more high quality games and they support polish economy

lorkano,

Yet it’s still not worth for polish programmers to move literally anywhere - cost of living ratio to the earning is so great that devs don’t even move from Poland

lorkano,

Poland right now actually have too many developers in the country - so I would expect more Companies open offices as earnings stabilized

lorkano, (edited )

Let calculate then

Germany tax is up to 42% scalling linearly from 10k to 58 k Eur.

Polish B2B has tax of 12%.

Comparing capitals, Berlin is 28.3% more expensive than Warsaw (including rent).

Average salaries are estimated like this: 65125 EUR Germany (38358 after all taxes) 25200 EUR Poland (17207 after all taxes)

You earn 122% more in Germany.

  • Minus cost of living it’s 95% So it’s 2x more

One more thing to consider is buying apartment prices, which are 41% cheaper in Warsaw (outside of city center) and 33.5% cheaper in city center.

So Is it worth moving for some poeple? Definetely, you were right. But person from Poland probably usually will get below average earnings there. Aside from that, person earning top 20% it earnings in Poland would be still taxed 12% when in German all of this goes to 42%. So for top of a line IT specialists this difference is smaller.

Is it as bad as you paint it? No, it’s barely 2x, not close to 3x.

Is it worth moving for me? Hell no, because I work remotely from small city in Poland which is 49% cheaper than Berlin and property prices are dirt cheap.

Numbers are taken from numbeo for costs of living and property prices. Salaries average are taken from online sources, and calculation of taxes was made by online calculators taking into consideration Healthcare etc.

I took normal employment contract values for Germany, because I heard from German coworkers this is the most common and preferred by employers there.

Besides all of that, when you are already earning top 85-90% salaries in the country, it depends a lot on the person if they even need more money. Programmers in Poland can afford anything they want that is not multi-milioneere stuff like yachts or very expensive cars. So why would you leave everyone and everything and move? It makes way more sense to move for people that do not earn a lot of money to Poland.

lorkano,

I’ve written sources although not links, which takes 5 brain cells to look up. Obviously I took IT earning averages per year. I compared Berlin to Warsaw which is clearly written in my response which you would know if you actually read it.

If you don’t want to put in any effort your comments are worthless, ending this conversation, bye

lorkano,

Rip, in EU they cannot force targeted cookies so we can see

lorkano,

If it was someone with certain rights he could theoretically remove trace of this from the history. In git you can do it by rewriting history and force pushing

lorkano,

For now they are, when they are happy with new software they will remove old panel, because otherwise they would have to keep updating two apps with same new changes.

lorkano,

There is this notion going that league of legends ranking system is good which is strange. Full of smurfs ranking up, full of bad players deranking after buying boosted accounts, and few actually players that want to win and are trying really hard, but at the end of the day, if you are not the type of player that can extremely carry, result of your game is decided before you even start playing. And then they removed ability to see teammates nicknames, so I can’t dodge obvious trolls anymore, and have to play in the team with people that have for example 30 ranked games played with around 40% winrate.

lorkano,

On chess.com smurfing is actually not permitted, but chess grandmaster can play on special accounts to do fun challenges and all of the elo is refunded to the players that they beat.

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