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twinnie, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

I’ll probably keep using it and see what happens. To be honest I’ll just go where the content is, and if the new people fuck it up it’ll likely go elsewhere.

FinalRemix,

I got a “lifetime membership” on discount right before they did away with that option entirely. I’ll stick around for a bit, too, mostly.out of convenience, but I ain’t contributing, and I’m leaving uBlock on at all times.

ArchmageAzor, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community
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Well, there’s still ModDB? (I don’t use ModDB so I dunno if it’s controversial or not)

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Idk if it’s controversial, but I’ve always hated the layout of that site. It seemingly has not changed in decades, either, looking at it now.

muhyb, (edited ) do gaming w Dragon Age Creator Slams "Woke" Criticism: "You're an Idiot"

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  • Catoblepas,

    If the game is dog shit the people crying about it being woke will still be the idiots. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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  • Catoblepas,

    Not sure I’d consider things like the ability to make your character trans a symptom of anything other than the game being made in the 21st century.

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  • Carighan,
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    because the creators using it to hide their bad games

    How does this work in particular? The hiding bit? Doesn’t it actually draw attention, considering how many people then spam “OMG SO WOKE!11!!angry!!” and so on threads everywhere?

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  • Carighan,
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    When they have no good material, they start to promote unrelated things to gameplay. This is just one of those things.

    Didn’t YOU just say that people focus on the visuals of characters? As in, something unrelated to gameplay?

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  • Carighan,
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    Visuals are part of the experience, it’s not unrelated.

    Why? Or rather, why this, but apparently not your character or their back story?

    There are a lot of good games that can be considered as “woke” and no one talk about them like this.

    [citation needed]

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  • Carighan,
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    So “woke” means all of the following together, trying to summarize:

    • A game includes anything related to LGBTQ+ or political left-leaning ideology.
    • The above is presented via non-gameplay elements. It’s fine if its in the gameplay.
    • The game was a commercial flop or critically panned.

    Did I sum that up correctly?

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  • Carighan,
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    So this then begs the question, why are people decrying games as “woke” trying so hard to push their political agenda into gaming discussions? After all, as per point 1 + point 3, the game was already criticized/panned anyways, then someone came in and tries to push the critique onto a political level instead of a game one.

    Mrs_deWinter,

    Citation: Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur’s Gate 3, I can even put Stardew Valley in this list, though not as vocal as others. I didn’t see anyone bash these games as being woke, or maybe they are a minority if there are.

    You have spend zero time in game forums talking about Baldur’s Gate 3 if you think it wasn’t criticized for being woke. The best game of the year by every metric, and conservatives got batshit insane about a slider for gender that contained “non-binary” as an option. The first year or so every second steam discussion was about that topic.

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  • Mrs_deWinter,

    Which goes to show that it being heavily criticized for being woke has nothing to do with quality. It’s not a “symptom” of a bad game, like you wrote earlier.

    If Dragon age flops it will do so because it’s a bad game, not because it’s woke - the people who actually give games bad ratings for that are thankfully always a very small minority, no matter what a conservative bubble, right wing influencers, or some random internet shit storm might suggest to you. Your original comment simply missed the point.

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  • jeeva,

    Based on that, then, do you think that the folk complaining about wokeness are always the vocal minority and the reason you see it far more in unpopular games is that there’s not a higher ratio of positive reviews to hide the assholes?

    Etterra,

    “woke” is now just a dog whistle that tells you the person saying it is a bigoted shithead.

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Aye, it has become another dogwhistle of the weirdo alt right crowd. It’s kinda helpful because whenever you see someone use it unironically, you can just safely block/ban them at no loss of conversation.

    Visstix,

    Woke is not a symptom. What people usually complain about with “woke” is more choices for the player to personalize their experience. Body type 1 or 2 instead of male female? Woke. Different skincolors? Woke. Woman in charge? Woke.

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  • Visstix,

    It isn’t. More options doesn’t affect anyone but somehow it is an issue to snowflakes.

    PsychedSy,

    (I’m so sorry for writing so much. Skip to the last paragraph if you have to. There’s a tension in me because I fall on both sides a bit.)

    It’s an indicator of developer focus and intent. Sometimes.

    If people’s introduction to trans characters wasn’t “hi, I’m trans” then maybe they wouldn’t have these stereotypes, but we are where we are. Pretending that it’s just extra options is ignoring that the people that push this sort of thing also seem to think we also want to read their shitty writing and shitty characters.

    Their dumblelore/voldemort slash fiction bullshit was trash 15 years ago and they haven’t improved because their focus is social issues, not good writing. That’s the real issue - paper thin characters that are just vehicles for social commentary. Subversion isn’t annoying your audience from the start, it’s developing deep characters with all the flaws of humanity that also happen to have atypical identities.

    My favorite book series are The Culture novels and Discworld. They both have trans characters that aren’t there just to push narrative. They were well written characters that fit the world and also trans. In the culture it’s not even remarkable - they’ve solved everything biological so it’s just kind of there. Discworld is more by-the-horns, but he still manages to be sneaky with the subversion and it works every fucking time.

    On the flip side, Hugo award winner A Deepness in the Sky has a character that uses gender neutral pronouns which is whatever. Not a big deal, but it was the first time I saw it in a book. What was the book? Torture/rape fantasy set in space. It’s one of two books I couldn’t finish. The other is Atlas Shrugged. Coming from someone that’s read a lot of more classic science fiction and considered a Hugo a seal of approval, that was a very harsh realization.

    I don’t think there’s anything wrong with extra options or making ugly characters (though I don’t get that - there’s a sweet spot between fan service and trash can) but I don’t consider them a useful feature if the game is shit. If they focus on the game and add ‘woke’ shit to a good game with well written characters it’ll go down like honey. If the devs see the game as a vehicle to disseminate their social ideas, they’re in love with themselves and not the game and people will see that. It can, and has, been done well.

    RandomVideos,

    My 4 favorite games are “woke”

    I dont think it has any connection to the quality of a game

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  • RandomVideos,

    Why would it need an 18+ inscription?

    What is not safe for kids about it?

    mindbleach,

    Fuck off.

    Eggyhead,

    Who will be the idiot if the game doesn’t?

    monsterpiece42, do games w God of War Creator Is Unhappy With New Games and Kratos' Story

    Could the author have packed any more bias into the article? Like, we get it. You like the new games.

    randomaside, do games w God of War Creator Is Unhappy With New Games and Kratos' Story
    @randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    His tone, the way he mocks other creators, comes off as (for lack of a better term) developmentally stunted. I understand if you disagree with the product because your vision is different, but the way he expresses it is so reductive that it’s hard to see his points as valid beyond his feelings.

    With that being said, It’s been awhile since I’ve seen David Jaffe and he’s kinda got a “We’ve got Dan Harmon at home” vibe about him now.

    WeLoveCastingSpellz, do games w God of War Creator Is Unhappy With New Games and Kratos' Story

    Too Bad

    hal_5700X, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

    So are they going to stop banning mods? Also we need more modding sites.

    Crankenstein,

    There are plenty, they just aren’t as big or as well designed because they are just small forums, and most are usually game specific.

    Nexus was unique in that it was a hub for the modding community, made specifically because people didn’t want to have to browse hundreds of different forums to get their mods that may or may not be compatible with each other. It was a nice convenience while it lasted.

    Yewb, do gaming w Walmart Reportedly Starting to Purge Physical Games Next Week

    I am stocking up on physical media… I am getting tired of not owning shit.

    Like quit raping me world I just want to spend money and own things so I can give them to someone else or sell/trade them later.

    Rentlar, do gaming w Walmart Reportedly Starting to Purge Physical Games Next Week

    I don’t own an Xbox but I can take those copies off your hands at 3cents, Walmart.

    What a big waste of plastic if they get thrown out.

    ares35, do gaming w Walmart Reportedly Starting to Purge Physical Games Next Week
    @ares35@kbin.social avatar

    right after they put in locking display cabinets for all the game discs here.......

    The_Vampire, do games w God of War Creator Is Unhappy With New Games and Kratos' Story

    Went and watched the original.

    Seems like he just doesn’t like the direction and it’s a ‘different strokes for different folks’ kind of thing. I think his point about Ragnarok is fair, the writing is a bit all over the place and that can make characterization suffer.

    Ulrich, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community
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    They didn’t say anything about a sale…?

    DarrinBrunner, do games w Nexus Mods Sale Sparks Concern in Modding Community

    They had a good run. It was fun while it lasted.

    MyDarkestTimeline01, do games w The Witcher 4 Developer Calls Xbox Series X "Extremely Challenging" for 60FPS
    @MyDarkestTimeline01@lemmynsfw.com avatar

    Title needs to be updated. They were bemoaning the Series S not the Series X.

    Blizzard, do gaming w Walmart Reportedly Starting to Purge Physical Games Next Week

    https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/981dd4e2-001b-4e9f-bf4f-27e6c3e45d62.webp

    So for 1 cent you can buy 33 disks and still say “keep the change”.

    themeatbridge,

    Sounds like the price reduction will be only in Walmart accounting system, so they can justify throwing them all away and write off the lost sales. I doubt they will actually sell all of those games.

    Blizzard,

    I was only joking about the “0.03 cents”. I’m on PS5, buy all games digital and find Microsoft disgusting so I wouldn’t buy it even for 0.03 cents.

    firecat,

    Walmart is selling through the website or their partners website. The stuff is kept in storage until the item is deemed useless.

    themeatbridge,

    Per the article, Microsoft is paying them not to sell any of the physical games and take them off the shelves. I’ll bet dollars to donuts that they end up buried in a landfill next to ET.

    RampageDon,

    Did you stop reading right at what you copied? The next sentence says all sales will be blocked. So you won’t be able to buy it.

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