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Nyla_Smokeyface, do gaming w Suggestions for smaller-y games if I liked _______

I loved Killer Frequency! I made a post talking about it.

Hazdaz, do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs

Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2, Mass Effect, Guardians of the Galaxy (not a real RPG, but has RPG elements).

InverseParallax,

Kotor, absolutely, and me:le if that takes.

Hazdaz,

No love for Guardians? I was pleasantly surprised by that game.

InverseParallax,

Never played, might give it a shot.

Tarquinn2049, do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs

Secrets of Grindea

Yes, the title has grind right in it, and yes it’s for that reason. But, the way grinding works is handled pretty well. The longer you stay in a combat area, the faster the enemies keep respawning on kill, until there is almost no delay and you are just murdering hundreds of them per minute. Of course when you first get to a new zone, you won’t be able to handle grinding it like that.

But yeah, grinding mechanic aside, the game is also a pretty good narrative and has a really good sense of humor and is well-made. I recommend looking it up despite grind being right in the name, lol.

BigBananaDealer, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of August 6th
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100%ing hogwarts legacy is not very fun, and im also burnt out from the game. playing gtav now

Tarquinn2049, (edited ) do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs

CrossCode

I didn’t hear about it when it released, only got it on sale earlier this year. Apparently all this time the perfect game for me had already been out there just existing slightly outside the range of my awareness.

It is a high quality pixel art narrative RPG with a single character class that can branch any way they like, in a pseudo-MMO(single player game where the game is lore-wise an MMO that you are one character in, rest of the characters in the game are “other players” but are of course just narrative to us the real world player, but to our in-game player they are their real life friends and you know them separate from their characters). The pseudo-MMO has 5 classes, but your character is the jack of all trades class. So your various party members will be better than you at their one specialty, but if you are extremely selective, you can nearly match them at the same level if you pick only stuff for that one path. The trade off is that this class is supposed to be much harder to play.

But anyway, enough about that, the actual story of the game is awesome and I don’t want to spoil anything specific. Your character starts out unable to talk due to a malfunction of the “game”, but slowly gains more words, it’s not a gameplay mechanic, just a narrative mechanic, but it’s crazy endearing. Kind of like a “little mermaid” type scenario. She still has full control of her facial expressions and body language, and speaking of, there must be thousands of facial expressions. They did not skip out on any work in the pixel art department.

The exploration parts of the game are kind of zelda style platforming puzzles with more of an agility focus. Combat is real-time but somewhat easy, with more of a focus on stringing fights together and trying to survive as many back to back in quick succession as possible. The longer you stay in combat and string fights together, the less overall monsters you have to kill to get all the loot from a zone. Though the max monsters you need to kill at the worst is pretty low. Like 50-100 per zone. And even then it’s optional, but better.

They also have dungeons, these are also pretty similar to old school zelda, but quicker and tighter. Speaking of, character movement/control is very agile for a pixel art game. I’m not generally great at it in other games, but I love it in this game.

Ok, well I should probably stop now. I could probably go on for hours, it’s an amazing game that I’m sad I didn’t hear about til recently, but at least I did eventually hear of it. Now I feel I have to make sure other people don’t miss out on it like I almost did.

Edit: bah one more thing, character development is pretty robust. I built my entire character around thorns damage and blocking. It’s entirely possible to go through the game this way, in fact it makes some fights kind of silly. But it’s also entirely possible to never have any thorns and even to never block a single hit. But the thorns mechanic alone is pretty deep. There are several components that affect how much damage you will reflect when blocking a hit, how much the hit would have been, how much you lowered it by blocking it, how much baseline “pin body”(thorns) you have and how much defense the monster has. So a boss hitting you for 100 that you reduce down to 50 is gonna hit them back pretty hard, but so is a monster hitting you for what would have been a string of 10 hits of 3 damage, but you reduced them all to 0. Since there is a baseline, those 10 hits trigger pretty close to your minimum amount, but it’s probably alot more than 3, and certainly more than the 0 they actually did to you. There is also perfect guarding, completely unnecessary, but since my character is all about blocking, I decided to practice perfect guarding, and I got pretty good at it. Also when I perfect block a melee hit, it stuns them for 2 seconds. And perfect blocks inherently double thorns damage, like as if it was a crit.

All the mechanics seem as deep and well planned out as that too. And there are alot of mechanics. The 4 main disciplines are tank, ranged damage, melee damage and caster. Though caster is mostly just using more skills instead of auto attacks while still being either melee or ranged. Just get way more mana regen. And of course the idea is to blend and not just specialize in one, but you can also specialize. Ranged damage is done by way of shooting “spheres”, it’s also a pretty important aspect of alot of puzzle solving, but you don’t need any points in ranged damage to solve puzzles with it. I have no points in any type of damage other than thorns. My character has more than double defense versus attack. Hehe.

There is a relatively limited selection of gear, but you will likely always find something you want. Kind of similar to a final fantasy game, no unnecessary gear, just a bunch of stuff that “isn’t for you this play through”, but your party members might like what you don’t. They of course have their own money and choose when and what new gear they buy. Though bringing them to a shop that has what they want will prompt it, otherwise they’ll go shopping on their own time when not in your party.

iRyu,

Okay, it’s time for me to finally play this game. I got it in the summer sale because I thought it looked a little interesting but now I need it.

Tarquinn2049,

Correct, at least in my opinion, hehe.

amio,

Good writeup, I picked it up on sale myself and have been like "mehhhh..." and not actually played it. Now I might.

UprisingVoltage, do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs

Fear & hunger will surprise you. It looks like an RPG and it seemingly plays like one, but it’s actually an entire different beast. Lots to understand and to uncover, both gameplay-wise and lore-wise. If you decide to give it a shot, be sure that the game it’s not unbalanced, it just need to be understood.

If you want something less dark and hard, the Mario & Luigi series for GBA/NDS/3DS is crazy fun. The same applies for the Paper mario series, very original and super fun RPGs that don’t really play by the rules

Monologue,
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fear and hunger is an immersive sim disguised as an rpg.

the only thing pushing the game further isn’t your characters level but your own knowledge and understanding of the game mechanics and your ability to manipulate them to your advantage but this comes with bashing your head to a wall over and over and over again until you find something that works. it is brutal and not for everyone. the themes are also pretty disturbing so proceed with caution.

UprisingVoltage,

Thank you for clarifying

yaminoEXE, do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs

RPGs are such a board term nowadays that anything can be an rpg if you market it as such. But that’s not the time for it.

If you like Undertale, you might enjoy its deranged post apocalyptic cousin released near the same time, Lisa the Painful. A turn base rpg with plenty of tangible choices.

If you like more narrative stuff, play Disco Elysium or Planescape Torment.

isyasad, do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs
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Golden Sun is probably one of my favorite RPGs, very deep combat system where in the lategame you will be modifying your character class in the middle of battles to change your movesets and other cool mechanics. Fairly interesting story as well. It has great GBA pixel art and it does have random encounters.

Persona 5 is a turn-based RPG that lots of people who aren’t usually into turn-based RPGs tend to like. Simple but satisfying battles, and a story that would have seemed mediocre if it wasn’t for great music and some cool moments which make it really stand out. No pixel art and also no random encounters.

OMORI is pretty good and has a really good art style. The story is also very good with some very memorable characters and moments, and pretty good music. The combat is simple and probably best described as “not bad”. The biggest downside of the game imo is that despite not being very long (<20 hours) it felt like it dragged on close to the end. It might have random encounters? I don’t really remember.

Overall I recommend Golden Sun if you are able to emulate it or something (not on steam or switch)

caseofthematts,

For clarification, Golden Sun was mostly 3d rendered models. They purposely made them to have a resemblance to pixel art since they needed it to both fit in a GBA cartridge and screen, and not look ugly while doing all that. Also I believe it is on Switch now if you pay for online and have the GBA emulator (which I personally don’t pay for and never will).

I still replay the series once every couple years, though. Fantastic series.

rand__althor,
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It’s not on the GBA app yet. At least the first game was announced for the service when they announced GB/GBA for Switch Online, but neither game is available at the moment on that. Hopefully soon.

DaCrazyJamez, do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs

Its only a week old, but I would strongly recommend Baldur’s Gate 3. I would warn you, it might spoil a lot of future games for you, by setting the bar so high.

And if you want an equally emersive but MUCH older game,look up ADOM.

mmorschel,
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I love BG3 but the D&D battle system is not for beginners and though BG3 is absolutely fantastic it doesn’t do a great job tutorial wise.

Cheems,
@Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve never played dnd and it was pretty easy to pick up

Cheems,
@Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

I second baldurs hate very fun and large game

Cabeza2000, do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs

Fell Seal: Arbiter’s Mark

It doesn’t fit all your requirements but I think you may like it.

mmorschel, do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs
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Why not try out Western CRPGs?

I gather from what you’re writing, that you’re trying to get into JRPGs.

If you want action-laden fights without random encounters, I suggest the “old” BioWare RPGs:

  • Mass Effect Trilogy
  • Knights of the old Republic 1 + 2
  • Dragon Age Origins (never played the sequels)

They’re old but gold and still one of the best.

And there are still:

  • The Witcher 3 and
  • Cyberpunk 2077
Carighan,
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I will say that I hate to call something like Cyberpunk an RPG at all. It feels almost entirely like a shooter, with the RPG parts somewhat tacked-on. This is more evident even with the missing 6th spec tree and how, even after massive rebalancing, the whole level-up and spec-system are entirely irrelevant without a lot of mods.

Don’t get me wrong, modded the system works well.

But as installed, it’s just all rubbish and feels almost forgotten by the devs.

mmorschel,
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OP asked for “RPGs for people who don’t like RPGs”.

And yes Cyberpunk has all of that:

  • Story, Conversations and Decisions
  • Quests
  • Skill and Leveling system

It’s a proper RPG but with a huge focus on the shooter/action part and yes, in my opinion it lacked on the Quest and interaction part.

But I wouldn’t say that the battle system alone defines a RPG, see Mass effect 2 + 3 and the Witcher.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah true, you’re right. Nevermind my comment. 😅 Especially on the background of wanting an RPG for non-RPG players.

cottonmon,
@cottonmon@lemmy.world avatar

Isn’t Cyberpunk 2077 also based on the RPG system with the same name?

morras, do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs

Captivating narrative and in-depth combat system? Final Fantasy 7.

resketreke, do gaming w Suggestions for smaller-y games if I liked _______
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I'd like to recommend Pentiment. Narrative-driven game set in the Middle Ages, or rather at the end of the Middle Ages. It has an interesting story and according to some historians it's historically accurate. I loved the story, the setting, the art...

Watch a review or something and give it a try if you find it of your liking.

Kaijobu, do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs

It might not tick all your boxes but Chained Echos might be worth a try.

BudgieMania,

As someone who has never fully clicked with turn based JRPGs, Chained Echoes would be my answer as well, I've been enjoying it a lot. The combat system is one of my favorite executions of turn based combat I've ever played.

secondaccountlemmy,

Thirded. No grind. Very strategic.

thatKamGuy, do games w What are some RPGs for someone who doesnt like most RPGs

Super Mario RPG and Chrono Trigger, I think strike a good balance regarding random encounters.

On the other end of the spectrum would be something like the Front Mission or Final Fantasy Tactics series - where the narrative is all handled through set battles.

Tarquinn2049,

Can’t wait for the super Mario RPG remake. I’ve already been replaying that game every 5 years or so, will gladly do so again on a new version of it.

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