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BlameTheAntifa, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?

Ori. Both of them.

They are works of high art.

LiveLM, do games w The osu! Open Source Client, Lazer, Has Been Made the Default Download Option for New Users

Damn, that’s huge!
I thought they were still ways off from making the switch!

core, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?

Sundered: eldritch edition

flemtone, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?
@flemtone@lemmy.world avatar

Supraland

Linktank, do games w The osu! Open Source Client, Lazer, Has Been Made the Default Download Option for New Users

r/place made me hate Osu! players.

fushuan,

Because they wanted to have their circle? It was small compared to other ugly things c’mon.

Linktank,

Because they were clearly using bots to do it.

Cybersteel,
@Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not as if someone made an LLM out of an Osu bot or anything.

colderr,

Well, there was a big fight between BTMC and xQc. It was a massive event (relatively speaking), so that’s why everything happened so quickly and immediately always. But I wouldn’t be surprised if some people used bots to help out, but I know that most were real people who just sat there and waited for another pixel.

fushuan,

They were a pretty active community, and the first to develop the browser extension that helped you colour each pixel correctly. Then everyone used it. Idk, they were heavily attacked from all fronts because weeb. I don’t think they were botting. There were plenty way more complex projects that finished way too fast for them not to be botted for you to hate the OSU! community that much.

LaLuzDelSol,

Was it though??

tgirlschierke, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?

Record of Lodoss War: Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth is a fantastic experience.

ICCrawler,

Wut.

Looked this up. Can’t believe Record of Lodoss War got a game in 2021. I remember watching the 1990 anime on Toonami’s online-only list of anime at the time, along with Harlock Saga. Both old school AF.

YiddishMcSquidish,

I remember playing the Dreamcast Diablo style game my college roommate had!

tgirlschierke,

Funnily enough, I had the opposite experience. Was shocking to me to find out that the lore wasn’t originally from Wonder Labyrinth.

Phelpssan,
@Phelpssan@lemmy.world avatar

All three metroidvania games from that developer are great. The other two are Touhou Luna Nights and Blade Chimera.

unknown1234_5, do games w What is your favorite Metroidvania?
@unknown1234_5@kbin.earth avatar

carrion is a reverse horror game where you play as the monster

myfavouritename, do gaming w a Landscape of Knowledge Games

Lots of folks talking about the diagram. And for good reason. It’s a good diagram full of good games.

But I want to draw folks attention to the linked article. It’s well written and I enjoyed it.

prole, do gaming w a Landscape of Knowledge Games

Give me more games like Animal Well, please.

Lojcs, do gaming w a Landscape of Knowledge Games

Does the witness not qualify?

brognak,

Ooo, I think it would be:

  • Incremental Deduction
  • Adventure
  • (maybe?) Language and Translation
webghost0101, do gaming w a Landscape of Knowledge Games

Not enough learn action adventure games to my liking.

Definitely checking every single one of these though.

nekusoul,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

Agree. Outer Wilds is my favorite game and all the others in that section aren’t far behind.

That is, except for Ultros, which is a game I’ve heard about before but didn’t know it belonged in this category of games. I guess I know what I have to check out next.

SPRUNT, do gaming w Waka waka

We don’t kink-shame here.

hperrin, do games w Valve's new hardware will NOT be loss leaders

Even if they sell at cost, they’re losing money because of the R&D costs.

Nilz,

…But then in turn they’ll earn money with Steam sales, so they’ll be earning money.

hperrin,

Yes, but that’s a different sale. My point is it can still be considered a loss leader if they sell it at cost. It took them many millions to develop it, so overall they would be losing money on the hardware sales.

That’s as opposed to something like Costco’s hot dogs. There was no R&D there, so if they sold it at cost, I wouldn’t consider it a loss leader.

AppleTea, (edited )

Ok, but R&D on a given product eventually stops. Over the lifetime of a good, it becomes a smaller and smaller proportion of overall cost.

So, for the first unit you ship, the cost is materials + logistics + labor + R&D.

But for the 1,000 unit you ship, the cost is materials + logistics + labor + (R&D/1,000)

SpicyTaint, do games w Valve's new hardware will NOT be loss leaders

What the hell is a “loss leader”?

wirelesswire,

An item that is sold to you at a loss in hopes that you buy more profitable stuff from them to make up for said loss. Game consoles are usually sold at a loss in order to get people into their ecosystems, so they can buy things like games and subscription services, which are more profitable.

rafoix,

When a business sells something at a lower price than it costs for the purpose of attracting more customers.

Another example is Costco rotisserie chicken.

ryathal,

A product sold at a loss to attract customers who hopefully buy other products with higher margins that result in a net profit for the retailer.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Gilette gives away razor handles to men to encourage them to buy their blades.

Inkjet printers are often cheaper than a change of ink cartridges.

I think it was Standard Oil, gave away hurricane lanterns in order to sell kerosene.

Most video game consoles are sold for less than they cost to make because the company expects to earn more in video game sales.

tal, do games w Valve's new hardware will NOT be loss leaders
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

I actually think that, while it’s maybe a fun topic for idle conversation…it doesn’t have a huge impact in the way traditional console pricing normally does.

With a traditional console, what the console vendor chooses to do on hardware is what you get. Maybe, as with Microsoft on the Xbox Series X/Series S, you get a high and low end model, but that’s as much choice as you get. All the games are made for that hardware, and whether the platform lives and dies depends on it.

But…that’s not really true of the Steam Machine. It’s just another PC, albeit preconfigured for Steam and HTPC-oriented. If you want to get a lower-end PC or a higher-end PC, you have the option of getting one and plugging it into a TV and running the same games on it and save some money or with a bit more visual bling. The games for PCs are already more or less written to scale up and down with hardware.

And it’s not like Valve’s platform is gonna live or die based on the Steam Machine the way a traditional console generation is, where success of a hardware console is high-stakes for the manufacturer and the players in successfully getting a game library going. I’d guess that it might help Valve make strategic inroads into gaming in the living room. But even if it completely bombs, Valve is gonna keep right on selling games to people to run on PCs (and the Deck) and their huge game library isn’t going anywhere.

ryathal,

I think comparing it to a console is the wrong mindset. It’s a computer first that can also be a console. It’s also a pre built Linux based computer you can have a higher degree of confidence that things just work even after updates. It’s a legitimate competitor for a new windows PC as much as it is a console competitor.

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