On the one hand, we’re more accustomed to better hardware latency. On the other hand… we played first-person shooters on 56K modems. The lag was legendary
I played using a cell phone connected by USB with a 14k data connection. It was slow af but I got unlimited data for $5 a month and it didn’t tie up the land line.
Wasn’t prediction baked into the netcode very early in the FPS genre? I wasn’t playing multiplayer in the Doom days, but by the late 90s, you wouldn’t have latency so much as you’d have rubberbanding. Games also use very little bandwidth, so 56K was no different than broadband, from my recollection.
First multiplayer FPS I played was Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II (released in '97). In that game, you had to lead your shots to a silly degree to actually hit anyone. But I think you’re right; by then most games weren’t suffering from that problem as much.
Different games (really engines) had different models for it. Some games you would feel things grind to a halt while you waited for a packet. Others you would have rubber banding where the prediction of what your opponent would do was wrong and they teleport 2 meters to the right. And a select few would result in endless double kills as you both killed the predictions.
The big difference was that arena shooters (which DOOM effectively was) tended to have encounters where you might have 3 or 4 players all shooting each other at once with a high enough TTK that it was very easy to lose track of one enemy because you saw a more immediate threat. So it was a lot easier to just assume the rubber banding was a you problem or not notice it at all.
Then we had CoD and it all became about super short TTK and 1on1 fights. And now? Now it was incredibly obvious when someone warped because they were your only concern.
Back in the day, my games were UT (mostly the good one, sometimes 2k4), Jedi Knight 2, Tribes 2, and Operation Flashpoint. I was a cool kid… But even then, it was almost never perceptible in UT even though the Unreal Engine had “the worst netcode”. Also not OFP since your encounter ranges were so long and you were squinting through iron sights so you had no idea if you missed because of lag or what. But JK2 and Tribes 2 were VERY obvious when the network was acting up because you were generally dueling someone or taking out a lone flag carrier while skiing across a field.
There is a giant ass cliff somewhere in the game that seems impossible to climb even when you’re maxed out. But there is a way to get all the way to the top and you will find nothing there unless you finish the entire game like 4 or 5 times. And then… It’s still totally not worth it even though they actually put something there.
Almost thought the pic was a shitpost before I remembered Smash exists (forgive me I hate fighting games). Lovely that we live in a timeline where Shirtless sephiroth, Kirby’s Pokemon cousin, and a gorilla named after another animal, and crossover fighting game characters can all fight each other.
Lol I know what a Thwomp is, I was more so noting the fact that the pic is missing a fourth player, so I just was thinking about fighting game crossovers in general.
“Another fighting game character”, take your pick. Just with non-nintendo IPs at this point it could be Ryu, Ken, Terry Bogard or Kazuya Mishima.
And then you can throw Solid Snake, Pac-Man, Sonic, Mega Man, Simon Belmont, fucking Minecraft Steve and a Mii disguised as Sans from Undertale into the mix.
Fair enough on the fighting games lol. Smash is the only one that i’ve really found stuck to me. It having multiple franchises i think helps (and contributes to how surreal the image is)
Yeah I love watching them and really wanna get into them (P4AU, Guilty Gear, Street Fighter, etc.), plus their soundtracks are banger. But I fucking suck at fighting games and the only one I ever tolerated was the soloplayer Pokken Tournament campaign. I honestly got bored of both 3DS and Wii U smash as a child very quickly, and to this day I feel bad for the money wasted.
probably has to do with “negative minority being the loudest” on the internet, but as you can see from this thread there’s a LOT whole of concern for a game nobody has tried out yet. I guess I understand where they’re coming from since Konami’s record with the series isn’t great, but I still genuinely fail to see why silent hill f isn’t perceived as a good game from the trailers we’ve seen thus far.
I can’t say I’ve ever used a dualshock 2 clone, but I’ve used a sixaxis and ds3? Ergonomically they seem somewhat similar. In terms of quality, I can’t say. The controller I’ve linked is wired only, however. If that’s a dealbreaker, a company called 8bitdo make some fairly affordable wireless gamepads which are all Linux friendly (directly interpreted by steaminput)
My friends and I can play boomerang fu for hours. there’s a surprising level of depth to this deceptively cute looking game. Can get pretty competitive, but it’s always fun 😊
This is a great question! A few from the top of my head:
The original Assassin’s Creed: I would never have the patience to play something like this on my PC. It is too repetitive and basic for me to enjoy while the rest of my PC is available. On Steam Deck though, I loved playing this in bed as a way to turn my mind off and just enjoy a simple story / game. I had a similar experience with the 2008 Prince Of Persia reboot. I 100% completed both, something I would never do on PC or TV console.
Undertale I also enjoyed way more during my second playthrough on Steam Deck. I think it has something to do with being fully immersed and again, playing from the comfort of my bed.
Also Slay The Spire, I got reasonably into it on a pirated copy on PC, then played it for hundreds of hours on the switch, then finally got a steam deck and it was the first game I bought for it, now sitting at 700h on Steam alone. So I went from piracy to actually owning the game twice :).
Any visual novel like Steins;Gate, Zero Escape series, Danganronpa… I would never be able to complete these games on PC or console.
What I notice, is that longer games mostly only work for me portably, because of the way you can sneak in extra hours on a portable machine. Time spent playing on TV or PC is always quite scheduled, and I often feel like I don’t want to waste it on a single experience for too long.
Galaxy is so great. Good flow, good looking, excellent music with a mix of epic and ambient… And a new character that got more personality from a short story and a couple dialogues than any character from the series ever had.
Too bad they never really knew what to do with her after that. Except Ubisoft with Mario + Rabbids 2, but… Meh.
Yeah, completely. Pauline’s got her time in the limelight right now, between Odyssey and DK Bananza, but Rosalina was just relegated to “bonus Peach clone that can do a swirl attack” in 3D World, and that’s basically it.
My controversial Mario takes is that i don’t really care for Pauline. I don’t hate her, but i also can’t find it in me to get excited about her either. But yeah, Rosalina really has been a extra peach clone for the most part which is a shame
Played a few of the lego games with my kids, like avengers and Harry potter. They have heaps of save points and were easy enough for my 5yr old to get through but still fun for me as well.
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