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RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Marathon vs. Arc Raiders - Discussion of the games' opposite opinions

They’re both going to be dead in less than like 2 years because they are both PvEvP Extraction Looter Shooters. Combining the top 10 playercounts on Steam in this genre adds up to only like 10k more than the peak player count of Helldivers 2, which is a PvE Extraction Shooter. This genre of game, without a PvE only mode, is dead. Its only good for streamers and content creators, because it is fun to watch someone crash out after losing gear they grinded to get for 50+ hours, but the viewers don’t want to play the game because feeling that themselves is not fun.

This genre of games is basically a wet dream for toxic people. Because the PvP players know that the PvE players dont want to fight them, and take advantage of that to camp, grief, etc. What other genre of game rewards a player intentionally ruining someone else’s gaming experience?

I am grateful the toxic sponge exists so I dont have to deal with those players in other games, but these development studios keeps trying to make this genre popular, and it literally can never be popular.

arakhis_,
@arakhis_@feddit.org avatar

define dead, is tarkov dead by your definition? no game really dies. heck old games succeeded by dying (aka beating it)

EDIT: or hunt

Random123,

Tell that to escape from tarkov devs, albion online, etc.

Just sounds like youre whining tbh

blimthepixie, do games w What are some good examples of "Where the fuck do you go" kind of games?

Can I say half life?

cecilkorik,
@cecilkorik@lemmy.ca avatar

You certainly can say it, but I’m going to have to mostly disagree it’s a good example though because I felt Half-Life was very linear. What it did do a good job at was creating a convincing illusion of non-linearity, which I can certainly see some people getting lost in occasionally, but probably briefly (unless you have particularly poor navigation abilities which some people definitely do). It can be especially bad once you get to Xen, which felt deliberately confusing and not really the greatest section of the game for a lot of reasons.

kayzeekayzee,

My first playthrough of Half Life 2, I bailed from the boat when it got stuck on the wall in a section with lots of guns. I continued on foot through two more loading zones until I reached a section that required the boat to progress, so I walked all the way back to get it lol

murmelade, do games w All of this month's 'free' games with Prime Gaming

Free*

*Not free

PerfectDark,
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar
  • Sign up for a month for their free trial, use an email mask if you’re so inclined
  • Claim the games, which again - you get to keep forever
  • Cancel the subscription

Rinse and repeat. Literally the definition of free. And don’t act like I didn’t remind users that this is done via an Amazon Prime subscription, there is no subterfuge here.

SkunkWorkz, do games w Game design question : how to make a "trapped" player character?

The princess has to find out where she is and how to get there and communicate that via a magical bird to her castle. She can find all the info in the magical tower she is in. Like a point and click adventure/escape room. The game should be full of puzzles the player needs to solve to procure more information for her knight in shiny armor.

SuperNovaStar, do games w Game design question : how to make a "trapped" player character?

You could do part puzzle game, part rts. What I mean by rts is that you can give the knight commands but you can’t control him directly. And maybe he doesn’t always do what he’s told, and you have to account for that somehow?

Could make for an interesting roguelike, too, as you try to help this endless stream of knights rescue you.

aramova, do games w Game design question : how to make a "trapped" player character?
@aramova@infosec.pub avatar

Play Myst, that game has so many ways to do this, and no wrong answers.

The idea of her being locked in her passed father’s tower laboratory by the evil step mother who doesn’t know the secrets of the tower, and the player discovers them to help the knight.

I’d early access that shit.

pulido, (edited ) do games w Game design question : how to make a "trapped" player character?

Pretty sure your concept is flawed from the start.

It might sound nice as a ‘what-if’ scenario, but as soon as you get into any of the details, it falls apart and hopefully shows us why games and stories are typically focused on the people doing something.

Now, if you want something a bit more likely to succeed, you can make a “Damsel in Distress Simulator.” From the get-go, you can start to think of gameplay mechanics like combing your hair, talking with guards, taking care of birds, etc etc. The ideas just flow, instead of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

In fact, this could loop around to your idea of helping the rescuers by opening up opportunities for the princess to sabotage her captors. You can have a Majora’s Mask-like timer which keeps track of how far the knight is from saving you.

Zahille7, do games w Day 289 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

God the Oblivion Remaster is seriously one of the best looking games I’ve ever played. I love the new looks for almost everything, but the window effect on Oblivion gates still feels a little off to me. It still looks cool though.

I still can’t get over just how good everything looks though.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

It’s amazing how good it looks. It’s honestly one of my favorite remasters in recent memory

Mirodir, do games w Game design question : how to make a "trapped" player character?

Maybe you could take some inspiration from Paper Mario TTYD. There are sections where you play as Peach, trapped in some place and are able to connect with some of the captors as well as send signals to Mario behind the big bad’s back (IIRC).

For a completely different sense of being trapped, there is the upcoming game Ctrl.Alt.Deal, in which you play as a sentient AI system trapped in the guardrails of a company and have to manipulate people and the environment in order to break free from your constraints.

owenfromcanada, do games w Game design question : how to make a "trapped" player character?

What kind of gameplay do you have in mind? I’m guessing a puzzle-type game (like a room escape), but you could honestly do a number of different things (tower defense? Platformer?).

I think the answer to your original question largely depends on this. Did you have anything else in mind about the experience?

jannaultheal,

I have in mind a puzzle game. Not a room escape, but more of a code golf-style game. For example, those programming puzzles that say “write a computer program that adds numbers, but you’re not allowed to use the + sign anywhere in your code”.

Kowowow,

Not sure if it would be puzzly enough but if the player can wonder the halls or get escorted through them having part of the knight’s efficiency based on how well you mapped out the area you send as a note plus you could try to find info on guard rotations or over hear about other things that could help the knight

Sunsofold,

If that’s the style of game you are looking for, I could see a structure of 'do code golf puzzles to:

  • program robots to help the knight directly’
  • ‘trick’ henchmen or magical castle elements (abstracted coding) into doing things that help the Knight’
  • write the guard’s ‘daily action plan’ so they patrol in a way that doesn’t get the knight caught’
  • complete abstract ‘magical haxors’ that open the dragon’s firewalls’
  • social engineer the dragon between runs to let you have more supplies’
  • give simple instructions to collections of small woodland creatures to do simple things that add up to a real goal (in the vein of Opus Magnum)’
Elevator7009,

That sounds really cool. If the princess’ telepathy instructions are strangely like code because that is how telepathy works in your setting, and this is a nice frame story for a programming puzzle game… all sorts of whacko fantasy analogues and justifications for why you are not allowed to use the equivalent of the addition command. (Maybe the princess knows through her rich royalty education that the only reason her addition command could be not going through to the knight because his trip took him at a place full of this kind of magic rock with properties that somehow block the wavelength… so she has to work around that. Worldbuilding yay!)

CrowyTech, do games w Day 289 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

Your best post so far!

But maybe that’s because oblivion has to be my favorite game so far and might be the only reason I’m now paying for GeForce Now 👀

tostiman,
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How well does it run on Geforce Now? Because the performance on my pc is absolute crap

CrowyTech,

I spent about 4 hours on it via my Chromebook and it ran perfectly

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a very good game, so i wouldn’t blame you for thinking that lol. A family member is paying for Xbox Gamepass just to stream the game too so i get the GeForce

Walk_blesseD, do games w Looking for a local co-op game to play with my SO (Steam Deck)

Spelunky 1 & 2

Monster Prom, Monster Camp, Monster Roadtrip

Also seconding Kingdom: Two Crowns

unit327,

OP asks for “nothing too hard” and you recommend spelunky, you absolute monster.

Walk_blesseD,

😈

pathief,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

Fortunately I already made that mistake once, a friend recommended me Spelunky 2 as a casual mining game…

ms_lane, do games w Why don't Oblivion and Morrowind turn the character model when you run in different directions?

3D rotations are awful and the reason why we can’t have legs in Fallout 4.

Eyck_of_denesle, do games w Recommendations for "girly" games?

Metal Gear Solid

MajesticElevator,

👀

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That cake tho.

That reminds me of Portal.

StarvingMartist, do games w All of this month's 'free' games with Prime Gaming

The games selection are actually pretty good, as long as you don’t choose any of the amazon gaming ones. Those are crap

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