Ogre Battle on the SNES is the original auto-battler. I would really recommend Ogre Battle 64 though, not only is it one of the very few RPGs on the system but it’s got really unique gameplay. It’s got its flaws but I’m such a sucker for the character designs and job/class system that it’s still my favorite game to this day.
Really think you should give FFXIV a deeper thought beyond just looking at the store and finding the level skips.
Even if you were to buy a skip, there’s still a considerable amount of game in front of you to play. They are only meant to get people to modern content without having to (to some people) slog through hundreds of hours of older stuff. It’s not a p2e micro-transaction by any means — far from it.
I agree with this whole-heartedly, there’s simply no way any reasonable person would consider skipping story content as buying power in the context of how FFXIV works as an MMO.
It lets players jump right into the new content without worrying about dozens or hundreds of hours of prior story they may or may not want to play through to get to the latest content at the same level as everyone else starting out, that’s all.
The money makers here want you to play their game. The more time you invest, the more money they make in subs. If you want to skip all that game and thus, in some ways, get all that progress done without having to pay all that sub, you’ve gotta fork over some cash.
You don’t cost them anything for not playing part of their game, and you don’t owe them anything.
If your interpretation of why they do this is right, it meand they want you to believe that “modern content” is a reward for playing through the rest. Nobody should think like that. Playing the game is the reward for playing the game.
It’s like if Netflix made you pay an extra as you start watching a series on season 4, because you didn’t pay your subscription through the three previous seasons.
Hopefully you understand why I was a little suspicious!
But I tried it out, and holy moly it feels like a different era. My brain can’t compute the fact that I just got a free to play game (Just have the demo, which honestly sounds like a ton of game) and it’s not trying to sell me anything in game? The tutorial was all about game play in universe, and never once told me about premium currency? My ui doesn’t have 5 different things? Crafting doesn’t involve long cool downs that I can 5 gems to speed up?
Like it feels like a different era of game, thank you for being persistent! I’ve only played a couple hours, but so far it feels like it’s going to become a comfort game at the very least.
I agree that video game narratives are, on average, way worse than in other media, but… This post is like a script for a CinemaSins video on an entire medium. There’s a conversation to be had about the quality and originality of storytelling in video games and why gamers are so quick to praise mediocre narratives, but I dunno if glib one-paragraph summaries of “types” of video game stories (with no examples!) do much to advance that conversation.
There’s a conversation to be had about the quality and originality of storytelling in video games and why gamers are so quick to praise mediocre narratives,
No, there’s really not. This is just a condescending way to disreguard someone else opinion on a piece of media or writing you dislike. The simple answer is just that thehly legitimately thought it was good.
I’m so tired of people acting like they’re some keepers of “good” content because they have the nonsense notion that media/writing is obectively good/bad. Want to talk about a film you just really liked online? Nope, it’s “objectively” bad writing, therefore you have terrible taste for liking it (or get called worse). I was hoping discussions like this would be better here.
I feel like it would’ve made sense to include some real examples. Otherwise this just reads very… made up? :'D
Not sure how to explain, but the simplistic nature of the stories you use as examples make the whole text feel a bit like an angry strawman argument even though it probably makes some good points.
yeah it’s kind of a weird post with the way it’s all worded. framing it in a “why what you like is wrong” way probably hurts it more than anything. it doesn’t invite discussion and is more or less just a ranting if you’re not giving examples.
it’s not like anyone here is trying to force someone to like the same games they do and the first thought I had after reading was “okay…”
Personally I like all sorts of storytelling as long as it’s involving topics/genres I’m interested. Lovecraftian setting? inject it into my veins. stories about realistic depictions of depression and suicide - sign me up. There’s not a singular formula that all my favorite games need to adhere to - why would anyone want all their story structures to be so rigid and similar?
Anyways one of my favorite games, probably my overall favorite, is Control. It does a lot of ‘show, don’t tell’ while also having an incredible amount of world building there for you to engage with if you’re interested. The setting is like they tailor-made this for my interests. So pumped for the other games coming out in that universe
I keep expecting to find some gnarly shit like was in the previous game and I haven’t found it. IDK if it’s just not there to find, or if the shit is even more esoteric than before.
I’m also quite confused by the fan tributes and favorites. Not against it, or anything, I just don’t understand things like why Mr. Tenna is so popular. 🤷♂️
Hopefully they didn’t, as it just would be inacurate data. But yeah I think whomever made the graph just put top image search result and nobody in the publication cared enough to check… ¯_(ツ)_/¯
On a serious note, there’s a happy middle ground between my favorite genres and the highest rated games, and this is typically where I have the best experience.
Examples: Bayonetta, Guilty Gear Plus R, or more recently: Hi-Fi Rush.
Highest rated games, regardless of genres. (RDR2, The Last of Us, Portal… etc.)
Highest rated games, that happen to belong to my favorite genres. (Bayonetta, GGPR, Hi-Fi Rush… etc.)
Games that belong to my favorite genres, but aren’t necessarily highly rated. (Hellsinker., Soulstice, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax etc.)
Highest rating doesn’t guarantee I’ll like anything in layer 1, and not every game in layer 3 ends up being good enough. Layer 2 is the happy middle ground and the highest chance of finding games I’ll enjoy.
After trying the whole roster, I now have my eye on three: Order Sol, A.B.A., and Venom. Im still a total begginner, and trying to not put the game back in the shelf again like a few months back tho.
Still I do look at it highly because high-level gameplay looks awesome, and the music and story mode were quite good EDIT: I actually was planning to go just with Sol the first time I tried it, but yk, seeing xPhantom and all I had my mind blown
It’s one of those games where the power level is so high that almost the entire roster is viable. You really can’t go wrong with any of the 3 characters you named. All powerhouses in different ways.
I’m confused. I get the The Exorcist reference but I don’t get why it’s relevant here or why this person is going places where people can talk to them about the game if they don’t want people talking to them about the game.
The reference is an example of a flippant sort of response of answering the request, but with something lacking the depth the person was asking about.
He probably doesn’t mind talking about the game broadly, but it can be a bit much for someone to be annoying about saying it should have been a different genre that they would have enjoyed. I suppose your question could be flipped around, why attend a panel discussing doom if you don’t really care for doom?
I don’t think people would go to one unless they cared which is part of why I am confused. Out of context this just comes off as somebody bragging about being an ass to a random fan.
This reminds me I’m on my first ascension run in Nethack… I should go kill Yendor.
Edit: eating green slimes turns you into a green slime and kills you?! You learn new ways to die every time. Anyway, I’ll leave your Stone Soup thread alone now and go cry in a corner.
Pathos Nethack Codec (basically Nethack rewrite for mobile support with some gameplay changes) was my second roguelike, after Pixel Dungeon. I was too stupid to search for guides so I played the game without ever knowing that eating certain corpses is always safe. I just kept dying of starvation.
My favorite start was a wizard, I loved figuring out how to use starting rings and scrolls to my advantage.
Yeah I’ve been playing for decades and still learning new things. Today, for instance, I learned that eating green slimes will melt your skin off and is uncurable.
I liked Pixel Dungeon, but there were some balancing issues deeper in the game that put me off it. That was a long time ago. I never got into Stone Soup because I felt like learning another Rogue/NH like game would be too much of a time investment at this point.
In fact I did, come to think of it, try to learn Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, and I adore it. Sadly it’s just open world with no direction, which doesn’t work for me. I need a clearly stated game goal to work towards. But it’s a cool game no doubt.
I learned that eating green slimes will melt your skin off and is uncurable.
Damn Nethack is something else lol. At some point I tried to play it (not Pathos, the OG) and died to a floating eye that paralyzed me for a few dozen turns or something. Didn’t touch it ever since :D
there were some balancing issues deeper in the game that put me off it.
I’m not the biggest fan of PD personally but I find Shattered Pixel Dungeon (the most popular fork, very active) pretty fun. It was actually the first traditional roguelike I’ve ever beaten (not counting 7DRLs)!
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, and I adore it. Sadly it’s just open world with no direction, which doesn’t work for me. I need a clearly stated game goal to work towards. But it’s a cool game no doubt.
I tried that one too, and had the same experience! I like its character creator, the complexity, even the inventory system. But… I don’t know, the moment I find a safe base I lose any motivation to play. I’m not a survival girl after all.
I didn’t remember the graphics of Stone Soup to be so tight, though! It looks really good! Maybe I’ll give it a go after all. I’m usually an ASCII purist because I’m masochistic like that, but that looks pretty. :)
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