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Hadriscus, do games w Yep, I actually own 7,255 games on Steam. I’ve played 23% of my library. I regret nothing.

Nice. Life is short, play games

slaneesh_is_right,

*buy

Hadriscus,

buy, rent, pirate, whatever floats your boat

Jazsta, do games w Patient Gamers - Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?

Noita. Got a good deal on the steam sale. Took a while to get over the hump of not knowing what the heck is going on and dying a bunch but getting better at it has been fun

cyberpunk007, do games w Elden ring night reign single player

You can play it single player, I played all the souls game single player, but more recently prefer doing bosses with others because I’m not a patient player and from software bosses require patience. Lots of it. Lol.

etchinghillside, do games w Yep, I actually own 7,255 games on Steam. I’ve played 23% of my library. I regret nothing.

23% average game completion rate? Or “has been loaded at least once”?

atomicpoet,

Unapologetically, I’m a non-completionist.

Only complete the games you’re compelled to complete.

Screen_Shatter, do games w Old gamers don't understand what mobile gaming has become

The potential has always been there for phone games, but its far a few between that are worthwhile. Touch screens suck for controls, really limits to a few good genres, but the stores suck too for any form of support. I’m still bitter that they updated iOs and not xcom so I lost that game and couldn’t get a refund. Most good phone games are ports though, and otherwise so riddled with poor design and mtx its not worth the time. Honestly, the buggest disappointment with phones is that games could be awesome on them and they’re not.

Kids are easily entertained by all kinds of arguably crappy things. Similarly mine has access to tons of great games but will spend weird amounts of time on some janky web based crap. Its not a sign its good, he just has no taste cause he’s an inexperienced kid. I similarly wouldnt look at his choice of mismatched clothes and chicken nuggets for every possible meal and think “wow that stuff’s great!” Maturity and judgement take awhile to develop, so I dont think its bad that he does that, but roblox is still utter garbage no matter how much him and his friends love it. A lot of people love garbage - it doesn’t make it good.

atomicpoet,

The inverse is just as true. Just because you and many “gamers” accept a rigid canon of what counts as “quality” doesn’t mean those games are actually good.

Go to any retro gaming board and you’ll hear the NES era hailed as a golden age. I’ve played nearly all those games—and apart from a few true gems, most of them don’t hold up.

Yet people still pay hundreds of dollars for cartridges like Action 52 and treat them like holy grails, even though we all know that some of the worst mobile games today are technically better.

The truth is, I don’t think the average gamer really knows quality. I think most of their taste is just parroting what someone else told them to like.

Quality deserves to be judged on its own merits—not nostalgia or consensus.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

At least Action 52 never tried to financially ruin gambling addicts.

atomicpoet,

Action 52 committed a crime worse than all those gacha games combined: it was not fun. And you had to pay good money for the privilege of being bored out of your mind.

But seriously—what’s stopping you (or anyone else) from buying games outright for your smartphone?

No one’s given me an answer, so here’s the truth:

Nothing.

But sure, keep pretending every mobile gamer is chained to gacha hell, like their phones come pre-installed with Only Microtransactions Forever™. Everyone with a smartphone is forced to play gacha 24/7, no exceptions.

Yeah, sure. Yeah, and I’m the CEO of Bigfoot Sightings Inc.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Mobile is so thoroughly dominated by gacha that any game that tries to have an ethical business model has almost no hope of succeeding on the platform, no hope of competing with the endless sea of gacha.

And I'm sure you're about to cherry-pick like two counterexamples, but I know you know that those exceptions are so scarce that I have every reason to decide that it simply isn't worth my time to go out of my way looking for them.

atomicpoet,

Have you ever considered that many people make games not just for some arbitrary measure of “success,” but because they genuinely love the craft of creating video games?

Some of these creators simply want to share their creativity with the world—no gimmicks, no exploitative business models.

There’s an entire universe of these passionate developers out there. We call them “indie” devs. You’ll find them on platforms like itch.io, and they’re far more common than most realize.

Many make games for PC, some for the web, and plenty for mobile as well.

If you want to play truly good games—without being at the mercy of marketing machines, no matter the platform—it’s on each of us to seek them out and discover what’s really worth playing.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

If they want to share that creativity, share it on a platform where the people who would most appreciate it will actually play it.

atomicpoet,

Plenty of devs continue to make games for the Commodore 64. Should they stop just because most people don’t have one?

Screen_Shatter,

Its the age old subjective vs objective criteria, and for certain people of different perspectives one will outweigh the other. Nostalgia is very subjective - most of those classics are called classics because they were fantastic at the time of release. They dont hold up today on a technical level, so objectively their quality by today’s standards is dirt, but whether or not someone still finds it entertaining or fun to play is entirely dependent on that person. The only way to measure that is to take an average of the judgemental reactions of many people - essentially consensus.

The problem with phone games is that objectively the large majority of them are poorly made, with subversive mechanics meant to manipulate the casual audience into spending on them. Their goal isn’t fun so much as addiction. It works because it is so largely available to a massive casual audience. The large majority of these people wouldnt bother to purchase a console or a PC for gaming. I’ve met people who actively say they think video games are a waste of time but they’re on level 1000 of candy crush and spending money on power ups. These people do not visit gaming forums and are not gaming enthusiasts, they dont see an issue, nor would they care if you point it out. Subjectively, they like it, they’re having fun, and that’s fine, but that is not the audience you are speaking to here. For this crowd the issues are readily apparent. Its immediately obvious to use why these games are balanced poorly, why ads are shoved in our faces constantly, why the constant updates are anti-consumer. An enthusiast audience will always be more critical of such practices that the larger casual crowd easily ignores.

Last time I went to mcdonalds it was because of that same kid who loves phone games. He was so excited for chicken nuggets. I tried one, it was horrible. I choked down a burger that is an insult to burgers. No food enthusiast would ever recommend this, no self respecting chef would ever endorse this, and I can easily make better food at home for cheaper. But they’ve served millions, and have franchises world wide! People love it, so it must be great! It sure as fuck is not, and I certainly have the capacity to be a more discerning consumer with that just like I am with video games or any other interest.

borari,

Kids are easily entertained by all kinds of arguably crappy things.

Guys traditional games AND mobile games are going the way of the dodo because my 6 month old plays with their fisher price phone more than our phones or tablets. - OP

Kolanaki, (edited ) do games w Elden ring night reign single player
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

It has always had single player you just get NPC team mates instead of human players. It’s not even always online.

lurker891,

I don’t think there’s npc players. You switch to solo mode and go alone.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Wow really? They said it would in one of the longer trailers for the game.

MrMcGasion,

Correct, they do scale the boss HP when solo vs a normal trio game, you also get one guaranteed free revive and shops are guaranteed to sell a revive item. Personally, I’d still rather queue with randoms, but we’ll see how that goes when they add duo games. Queue times can already be a bit long sometimes, and I’m a bit concerned that losing duo teams to their own mode will make solo queues even longer and more annoying.

Klanky, do games w Patient Gamers - Weekly Recommendations Thread: What are you playing this week?
@Klanky@sopuli.xyz avatar

Ace Attorney Trilogy and Stray

borf, do games w Old gamers don't understand what mobile gaming has become

My kid loves roblox because its controls are pretty much completely ideal for her ipad and apple pencil

Roblox is entirely unplayable to me because its control schemes inevitably break all my millennial expectations and I don’t have great internet connectivity at home anymore. It hurts me and makes me angry, lol. ANY game that properly works with an Xbox controller is superior for my personal experience because of decades of that paradigm. Touchscreen controls are death and other control schemes are second class citizens in the modern landscape

iAmTheTot, do games w The UK Stop Killing Games petition has reached 100.000 signatures

Heh yeah!

Die4Ever, do gaming w I’d love a 2d Resident Evil Metroidvania.
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neon_nova,

Seems like it could be fun. I’ll give it a try.

SanndyTheManndy, do games w Why don't Steam or Discord offer the option to hide when we're typing?

Block the typing http request in ublock origin.

Gradually_Adjusting, do games w Developer Interview: my Q&A with the dev who runs 'the' Switch piracy freeshop
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

Cool! I want to look into their work. This seems like something my kid should also know about.

Surprised at how young they started on this journey.

AntiBullyRanger, do games w Why don't Steam or Discord offer the option to hide when we're typing?

It heralds from Jabber, for when you wanted to indicate to peers that you are responding in chat about something. However it is Machiavellian social engineering (2×🔗) meant to decipher your stylometry, which data analyst brokers (2×🔗) corporations like pisscorp and valve enjoy to exploit.

A technique I used to use for when I used פיסכורפ was to use a text editor to type out my message, then copy&paste. Now I just use slidcord at my convenience, and will use a scraper&archiver soon™ to export stuff in communities I want to maliciously extrapolate. 🖕 Network Effected folks. Aint scanlating on JASRAC friendly snitches.

MurrayL,

It’s kind of impressive that you managed to squeeze in so many links to references but without including any that actually back up the accusation you’re making.

AntiBullyRanger,

For Valve, or Pisscorp? Unless you mean Leviathan Scans.

MurrayL,

No, I mean the completely unfounded claim that discord’s typing indicators are somehow a tool for analysing users’ writing styles and selling that on to data brokers.

It’s so bizarrely specific that it comes across as an unhinged conspiracy theory, especially when it’s delivered as part of a link salad.

AntiBullyRanger, (edited )

Ah, you don’t read the Terms of Service.

a_pithy_name, do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #22

I hope things get moving in a positive direction for you on the 17th. Until then, I hope your cabin can take your mind off things a bit. Looking forward to the next time you’re able to write!

pdqcp, (edited ) do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #22

Just chill in the cabin with some chicken soup as much as needed, and comeback to your happily rambles whenever you feel like it. Btw, have you finished God of War by now?

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