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PigStyle, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Factorio.

ZeroHora, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
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  • Chrono Trigger
  • Disco Elysium
  • Sekiro
  • Zelda Ocarina of Time
  • Bioshock
  • Portal
  • Half Life
  • Nier Automata
  • Tetris

Flawed Masterpieces

  • Minecraft (surprising)
  • Dragon age Origins
  • Team Fortress 2
  • Fallout New Vegas
  • Dark Souls
  • Every Baldur’s Gate

Masterpiece in my heart: Terraria

Coelacanth,
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Good list. I desperately wanted to put Dark Souls on my list, as the first blind playthrough of it was a magical experience. But I don’t think it’s correct, no matter how much I love it. Flawed masterpiece is about right.

darthelmet,

Yeah the souls games are something I like in spite of all of the things wrong with them. There is just so much jank and bizarre design decisions.

I kinda hate that all of the games that have tried to copy them have done so to a point of not critically evaluating everything in them. And then they have all the same flaws, but none of the unique charm that makes me look past them for FROM’s games.

jacksilver,

I’m always curious why people add things like Ocarina of Time to lists like these. While the game was revolutionary at the time, I don’t think it holds up particularly well nor succeeds where later zeldas fail.

To call it an objective masterpiece I feel like it has to be a game that someone picking up today would still enjoy and appreciate. Tetris and Portal for example hold up well even by today’s standards.

ZeroHora,
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The thing that not holds well in Ocarina of Time is the N64 controls and like what they supposed to do to overcome that?

jacksilver,

It’s probably me being pedantic, but for an “objective masterpiece” the game needs to stand on its own and not on its legacy. I just don’t think Ocarina of Time holds up to later zelda games in many aspects (although I do think the story and soundtrack do).

Generally I think the ps1 and N64 era just suffer from the transition to 3D. Graphically and gameplay wise many games suffered for being the first foray into 3D gaming and those challenges wouldn’t really be settled until the next generation.

Harimau, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Super Metroid

samus12345,
But_my_mom_says_im_cool, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Is disco Elysium the one with all the talking? Like multiple books worth of text? No thanks

Btw how is RDR2 not on the list?

Coelacanth,
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Disco Elysium is definitely closer to the visual novel spectrum of video games than it is to something like Tetris. But make no mistakes, its narrative and impact would be much lessened were it delivered in any other medium. It is absolutely a perfect example of how you use video games to make art.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool,

My biggest issue is I game late at night when everyone else is in bed, so a game like that would knock me out

Krauerking,

How do you even begin to care about anything in that game when you are basically mashing buttons for hours and just listening to people complain about how shit life is?

I get its an art piece of living the existence you are thrown into but it feels like a confusing mess even gameplay wise for the starting hours that people that have finished it I feel miss how unfun it is at first.

I didn’t even know why I was now stuck on the other side of a wall in a union dispute and I just couldn’t be bothered to restart the game to try something else after how long it took to get dressed the first time.

Coelacanth,
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The game is not for everyone. That’s okay. Rothko paintings are worth tens of millions of dollars and I completely do not get them at all.

I will give you that there are two soft locks early on that are a little too easy to stumble into and it is for sure the game’s biggest flaw.

msage, (edited ) do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Games I haven’t seen mentioned yet:

  • Fez - cute little 2D/3D platformer. It’s amazing and very wholesome
  • Stalker: Shadow of Chenrobyl - dunno what exactly is it, perhaps the settings and the grit, but it has a special place in my heart. It’s about average FPS, but not too long and for me enjoyable
  • F.E.A.R. - very good FPS, with amazingly scripted enemies, decent horror elements (not compulsory - you might miss some of them if you’re not looking).
  • Prince of Persia: Warrior Within - for me the best 3rd person action adventure ever. Best combat hands down (or head, or torso, you choose), streamlined blade dance at your fingertips. You play with your enemies, and you get many tools. There are some locked camera issues.
  • Touhou: Lost branch of time - If you liked Slay the Spire, but wished for colorful mana, this is the game for you. It has anime artstyle, I usually focus on the cards, though it might turn some people off
  • Dota 2 - Dunno if it was mentioned and I didn’t see, but the mechanics are absolutely amazing, the things the game lets you get away with are incredible. 10/10, but other people might bring your experience down. Specially friends. Can play against custom (workshop) bots. Still takes too long to git gud. I studied the game for 10 years and still sucked.
  • Divinity 2: Original Sin - also haven’t seen a mention, everybody talks about BG3, I haven’t yet played it, but D2:OS was also a masterpiece. Haven’t played a lot of TRPGs, this was a blast, with easily set up multiplayer. Played through it twice completely, with many abandoned runs.
  • CS 1.6 - remember that? I lost my childhood to that. They don’t make counter strikes this good anymore.
  • Synthetik - top-down rougelike shooter, with amazing weapons and physics and classes and enemies and mechanics and 2 person multiplayer
  • Dwarf Fortress - the real objectively best game :D strategy simulation of the 3D box world, predecesor to both Minecraft and Terraria, but with A LOT more sand in your box. They are still extending it. And it’s on Steam if you want a UI.
  • Terraria (Calamity mod) - Terraria is obviously a great game, but what makes it 20/10 is the mods. Calamity specifically. Tripple the content, 5x the difficulty (20x if you try Infernum), amazing multiplayer experience. Don’t install Infernum if you haven’t beaten at least Revengeance on Calamity. Trust me, it will fuck you up.
  • Yakuza 0 - how could I forget about this masterpiece? Story done absolutely right, that game had no business making me feel so strongly about it. Cool combat, very funny moments, but I cried during it. If you haven’t tried it, check it out. You won’t regret it.
  • OpenTTD - Trains. Do you like to create and manage big rail systems? This is for you. And your friends. Only noobs use planes. Only psychos use boats. Nobody uses only vehicles.
Coelacanth,
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I love STALKER with all my heart, and if we’re talking atmosphere and vibes and even world building it is up there. But it does not really belong in the objective masterpiece category. Flawed masterpiece, maybe.

Also I think Call of Pripyat is the better STALKER game, but it might be controversial.

msage,

Yeah, but it still popped into my mind sooner than other games, dunno why,

Redacted,

Good taste

mutat0,

I love that you included 1.6. I spent my all teenage years staying up all night playing this. I was thinking single player epics but this is absolutely a masterpiece.

msage,

Yeah, me too… man, I would play 16+ hours on some weekends… I was kinda good, too. Too young, but godly reflexes. I still think about those days sometimes…

mutat0,

I’ll sit and watch old matches from of semi finals from 2004. Every round. I can’t get enough of the strategy and presicion. I’m so grateful for the memories and friends but also sad because, how do you replicate an era like that? A game that perfect? ESEA, HLTV demos, frag movies, forums. It was the best man.

msage,

Send me links of what you’re watching, I wanna watch too :D

I remember those frag compilations vids, those were so badass.

You can’t replicate that era, you have to keep the memories alive inside you, and perhaps try to improve some other communities.

I plan on helping/sponsoring some minor leagues just for the fun, find a game and try to make some magic happen.

mutat0, (edited )

youtu.be/9ztndsvBm6w

This is just prime CS. The best in the world meeting at peak 1.6.

youtu.be/t94C50ZPiiw

Just a fun one.

msage,

Man, I miss those times.

My favourite kill vid I go back to is www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnnY9e_7XZw

I should just host some CS1.6 servers and hope some people start playing.

C45513, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Hades

Hollow Knight

Noita

Super Metroid

Prey (2017)

DOOM (2016)

Factorio

Stardew Valley

theangriestbird, do gaming w Elden Ring Nightreign Review Thread

ahhhh you beat me to it. i was tryna line it up with the release day! lol

Well…i wish i had more to say about the game itself aside from my preview thoughts. I love the Souls games but have not gotten around to Elden Ring specifically. Seems like they nailed the “ER but more multiplayer” feel that they were going for, and I think that’s sick as hell.

chloyster,

Yeah I’m lucky enough that I have a squad that’s all very into elden ring on the same system to play with. But if you don’t have that it sounds like a pretty miserable time. Really hope they add cross play and balance single player more

theangriestbird,

They absolutely need to! Bonkers to launch a multiplayer-focused game without crossplay in 2025

Rai, do games w Day 315 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games l've been playing

I was gonna play some Minecraft this weekend, it’s been YEARS! I went to log into my Mojang account, and oops, Microsoft bought Minecraft forever ago.

I go to their web site to see how to download Java edition.

“Log in with your Microsoft account!”

I don’t have, and am not going to make one of those.

“Click here to see how to log in with your Mojang account!”

you can’t, you have to re-buy the game again scrub

Alpha player BTW

MyNameIsAtticus,
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I feel your pain lol. I had an old account that was Mojang that was going to give to my siblings last month so they could play modded with me (they have been begging for ages ever since I bought them a Steam Deck for Christmas) and I find out the account is just gone because I didn’t transfer it. I’m pissed about it because that’s 20$ gone.

Rai,

Really crappy support from Microsoft (as always) D:

Mora, do gaming w Elden Ring Nightreign Review Thread

Missing crossplay really sucks. I theoretically have an enthusiastic squad … too bad one player only has a PlayStation while me and the other person have PCs.

chloyster,

Yep it’s really whack. Sucks too because I have 2 distinct squads. A crew from college and a crew from high school. One on PlayStation and one on PC… Like I could buy it on both I suppose but that just sucks lol

Megaman_EXE,

That seems like a massive oversight. That’s so weird. I get it’s probably way easier to implement it the way they did. But because you likely will wana group with friends, it really limits people

termus,
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FromSoftware doesn’t really do extra.

Thassodar, do gaming w Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon | Review Thread

I played and beat the first game, but couldn’t tell you the story if my life depended on it. I’m surprised it got a sequel, the first game wasn’t universally well met even though I had fun with it.

I was confused because Google said the release was 2023, but I guess it was early access during that time. If the have a demo I’ll check it out!

forrgott, do games w Giving away 1 month Game Pass Ultimate code

Oh, for sure! I couldn’t afford it this time around, and my son has been bugging me about it cause he likes playing Minecraft Legends online. 😂

any1th3r3,

Great, I’ve sent you a message :)

humanspiral, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

Nethack

BlushedPotatoPlayers,

Indeed!

nutsack,

check out Caves of Qud if you’re into NetHack

solsangraal, do games w Screenshot and review-ish rambling about my current game! Lies of P

this game should have gotten more hype than it did

technomad, do games w Screenshot and review-ish rambling about my current game! Lies of P

That’s awesome, thanks for sharing!

I’ll be honest, I couldn’t get into it much myself for some reason but I know that it’s pretty well regarded anyway. Keep us updated, if you’d like.

Blisterexe,

Thank you! I’ll probably do a real review once I finish the game.

BootyEnthusiast, do games w Screenshot and review-ish rambling about my current game! Lies of P

It’s VERY clear that the devs ADORE Bloodborne specifically. They have literally every mechanic that game has, even how backsteps change your attacks.

It also runs incredibly well considering how visually crisp and clear the game looks.

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