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bread, do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?
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Can’t say that I’ve ever had this issue. Usually mod authors will tell you where to install them, or package the files in a folder structure such that there is no thinking involved.

Stamets,
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So I’m just an idiot.

Sounds about right.

reseller_pledge609,

Like most things, you’re just “an idiot” until you figure it out. Like any skill, the more you practice the better you get. Just take the time to understand it better and it will start making more sense eventually.

CorrodedCranium,
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Even then it can be difficult. A lot of mods have other dependencies that need to be installed and those dependencies and can have dependencies.

Poopfeast420,
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Yeah, I usually just follow the instructions, which seems to work 99% of the time. The main problem is usually if a mod still works with the latest game version.

Strayce, do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?

Not familiar with those particular games, but if you’re lucky there might be a third party mod manager that takes some of the hassle out.

Agent_Karyo, do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

You’re not missing anything. Heavy modding of older games PC can be a pain in the ass.

You can usually find a somewhat coherent and structured guide that will give you a step by step process, but will still be time-consuming (and there will likely be exceptions or outdated information).

The best option is to keep mods to minimum unless you know what you are doing and it’s a game that you play on a permanent basis.

Die4Ever,

Heavy modding of older games PC can be a pain in the ass.

Sometimes the older games are the easy ones to mod, and the new games make it intentionally difficult. Doom, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake, Deus Ex are all mod-friendly.

It can also depend on how much work the mod developer puts into making it easy.

(I notice you have an MiB as your profile pic and Deus Ex’s Liberty Island skybox as your profile banner lol)

Stamets,
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I was so confused for so long here. I forgot that Men in Black were in Deus Ex. I was just like “How the hell does Tommy Lee Jones connect with this?!”

hisao,

Doom … mod-friendly

If it’s non-standard engine (“sourceport” in Doom terminology) with its own scripting infrastructure (like GZDoom) then sure. Vanilla and Boom compatible engines are kinda tricky, DeHackEd isn’t exactly the easiest modding approach. Mapping-friendly - for sure, but modding - less so.

snugglesthefalse,

Yeah, the main reason doom can be considered more friendly is because the whole engine’s been taken apart and rebuilt by half the game industry by now

Rentlar, (edited ) do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?

As the name suggests, a mod is “modifying” the game, in ways that the original creators never intended to support. That’s why out of very few exceptions (such as Paradox and Steam mods), there is not a centralized hub maintained by the creator to organize and apply mods. But since there are some similarities between certain games (such as the game engine they run on), sometimes there is a third party mod launcher/installer which simplifies things. Thunderstore is an example.

The process tends to be different for every game because every game is made differently. To boil the concept down, basically if there’s no official interface for custom functionality (such as a plugin system), then modders will usually “hack” this in themselves. Installing the mod often means replacing a game file with one that hooks into the game, to be able to load custom code and custom game resources.

PacMan, do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?

Depends on the game and how the mods work. I just did a bunch of mods on Morrowwind and there was a tool for it and it was straight forward. GTA IV was super straightforward loading the mods I thought. Dolphin game mods I thought where a little funky till I spent a little time with it and was like oh this makes sense they way they are doing it and I was being a dummy not fully reading the instructions

CorrodedCranium,
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Isn’t GTA IV a bit difficult to mod? I feel like I recall using OpenIV and having to track down the correct directories to install each part of a mod the right way

Toes, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of Feb 2nd

I just started a new run in CDDA. cataclysmdda.org

I saw a new major version was released and made the switch.

So far it’s feeling good. I’m currently dying slowly to the harsh winter but otherwise ok!

pedro, do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?

Are you using nexus mod manager, vortex? Makes modding somewhat friendlier

swab148,
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Can’t wait for the Linux version.

MITM0, do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Relatable, Mods do be tricky to implement

adam_y, do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

"If it was easy, it wouldn’t be a shortcut, it’d just be the way. "

Modding varies from game to game, but having been doing it for nearly 40 years now, I can say it has generally become easier in the titles that want you to and harder in the ones that don’t.

jordanlund, do gaming w I'm something of a data hoarder myself
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External drives are cheap. Got one working on the Steam Deck.

theangryseal,

I pulled one out of an old laptop and bought an adapter for that purpose. :p Adapter was like 5 bucks.

_Lory98_, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of Feb 2nd

I played a bit of FFVII rebirth at the start of the week, but then had to pause I don’t have my main pc with me and I doubt it plays well on deck. I’m not sure if I wanna continue it tho, as my overall experience with the game up to now (middle of Costa del Sol) has been pretty bad.

I started Granblue Fantasy Relink, I think I’m near the end of the story mode. It’s pretty fun, although I wish the story too was coop.

I’m also playing Fire Emblem Engage (chapter 14), and it’s much better than Awakening: the maps are more interesting and the break system encourages you to be aggressive and makes using weaker units easier. The engage rings are pretty interesting; they feel a bit overpowered, but at the same time I feel like I’m not using them optimally.

Poopfeast420,
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I played a bit of FFVII rebirth at the start of the week […] I’m not sure if I wanna continue it tho

I’m also playing the game, it’s kinda disappointing, since I loved Remake, but I like the characters enough to continue.

_Lory98_,

Remake is great, I replayed it recently too in anticipation for Rebirth.

I too like the characters, which is why I’ll try to continue, but I’m probably gonna play the original game instead. I’ve already played around 20 hours of it, up to just after the

spoiler for a dungeon I'm guessing is near the end of Rebirthtemple of the ancients

, and while the fast pacing is a bit jarring when compared to Remake, I enjoyed it much more than the parts of Rebirth I played.

Poopfeast420,
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I’m definitely not as down on Rebirth as you, but I liked Remake more. The combat is still fun enough, even if some fights/enemies are terrible.

I’ve also been thinking of re-playing the original, when I’m done, just as I’ve done after Remake. Like you said, I remember the pace throwing me for a loop.

LunarLoony, do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?
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This just reminds me of the mod situation for early versions of Minecraft. These days it’s as simple as pressing a button and dropping your mods into a folder, but back then it was a case of directly modifying the main Java file, removing specific bits, adding specific bits in specific places… not smooth at all

HexesofVexes, do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?

For every mod you add, complexity usually increases exponentially.

Depending on the game, difficulty also varies: modding stardew valley is joy (117 mods in a pack, easy afternoon sipping tea), modding skyrim less so (oh god,these two amazing mods tweak the same tree, time to go patch hunting, 2 weeks later you play it only to spot obscure graphical glitches, all hail wabbajack automation!), trying to make a working multiplayer mod pack for rimworld is pure suffering (why do you hate me, why do two compatible mods generate mass instability?!? 4 months of bug hunting and unsalvageable runs due to strange mod interactions, gave up for now).

73CC, do gaming w I'm something of a data hoarder myself
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@UltraGiGaGigantic Nostalgia! It makes me happy every time I see my old favorite games.

BananaTrifleViolin, do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?

Genuinely not had a problem with mods, and I’ve been PC gaming for decades. Of course sometimes mods don’t work but thats life. Just be patient, you’ll get it done.

Decent mods have a readme file - follow the steps strictly - no skipping thinking you know better - and they should work.

Also look on YouTube or search online for guides - people often provide step by step guides to mod games purely out of a love for gaming.

Keep going - mods can be great, and its one of the many benefits of PC gaming. You’ll get there!

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