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Duchess, do gaming w What forgotten cult classic games are worth revisiting?
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  • Kit,

    I recently watched a Twitch streamer play through all of the Fatal Frame games. It was a wild adventure. I heard that there’s a new Fatal Frame game coming out sometime soon and I’m stoked to check it out.

    Cr0xy, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

    Oh wow, kudos for sitting down and writing this piece out. Damn, that’s a long post.

    But seriously though, all I could think of when I “skimmed” through the text was that you got too obsessed with the building blocks of a story and realised that you are critical towards that they’re all the same shape and/or made by the same material. So you stand very close to the wall and squint instead of backing up a few paces to get a good view of the actual construct in it’s entirety.

    Relax and just be happy that we have the luxury in this day and age to appreciate gaming as a medium. Or don’t, whatever makes you happy :)

    Brandon3399,

    I really like this point. If you look closely most churches are built with bricks and wood, but still create beautiful structures. As I was reading through the list I was thinking a lot about games that did points good and badly. Tropes are tropes for a reason (check out OSP trope talks if you want break down on how specific tropes can be used well or poorly)

    Cevilia, do gaming w Has anybody used Robot Cache?
    @Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    No experience with it, but…

    • Founded in 2018
    • Copyright date says 2020
    • Still says “Join as a Founder!” in 2023
    • Appears to be tied up in crypto nonsense

    Signs point to untrustworthy.

    twotone,

    I enjoy your succinct analysis :)

    Plus_a_Grain_of_Salt, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

    I’mma do it, I’mma be the one to bring up Undertale this time (estimated 2 hours, worth a few replays), there’s also little nightmares (2-4 hours depending on platforming skills) which is a spooky little game, but not too spooky if you ever play in front of the kids.

    Sub_dermal, do gaming w What forgotten cult classic games are worth revisiting?

    I’d heartily recommend Fallout 1, with a less enthusiastic recommendation for Fallout 2

    SevenSwell,
    @SevenSwell@beehaw.org avatar

    Just going to be that guy here but Fallout is neither forgotten nor a cult classic.

    Edit just to be more productive: Arcanum is a classic isometric RPG that fits the post much more accurately imo.

    Sitarane,

    Happy to see my boy Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura in there.

    If you are not averse to 90’s isometric PC RPGs, it is a breathtaking journey through fantasy industrial revolution. Think mages, flintlocks, steram engines, and wonderfully elaborate facial hair. But also, think side-quests so good, they’d be the main attraction in some lesser games. Think evocative world-building scored by entirely by melancholic cellos, violins and violas. Think quests without any other markers than the clues indicated in your journal.

    It’s not balanced by any means, you’ll need community patches for it to not die on you the second it launches, combat is good neither in the turn by turn or real time mode, and in the last stretch, the game looses quite a bit of its momentum. It takes quite a game to make all this unimportant in the face of everything else it does perfectly.

    Sub_dermal,

    Oh Arcanum is a great pick!

    And you’re right, Fallout’s not exactly forgotten - although it was a cult hit at the time, and I’d argue the original still is in a way.

    l0st_scr1b3,

    I’m gonna agree that the first two are more or less forgotten/less discussed than the newer games.

    Matthew, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

    I don’t need complete agency and freedom to enjoy a game. I don’t play games like Red Dead Redemption and The Last of Us expecting to create my own story; I play them to be immersed in a beautifully written and preformed narrative.

    squirrel, do gaming w What forgotten cult classic games are worth revisiting?
    @squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    My answer to that question is always “King of Dragon Pass”, a narrative/management game that is unlike anything else out there. It got a spiritual successor with “Six Ages”.

    Kit,

    I just grabbed it on Steam for $2! Looking forward to trying it out.

    squirrel,
    @squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Have fun! It’s a weird little game, but I am always happy when it finds some new players.

    king_dead, do gaming w Does an MMO with no way to turn money into power exist?

    Runescape was like that for the longest time and tbh k dont think bonds really impact my experience all that much

    Gabtraf,

    Ironmen stand alone. No trading with other players means no way to p2w.

    liminis,

    Yep, OSRS ironman involves so little non-social interaction with other players* that their power from bond gold is almost irrelevant.

    (* outside cooperative and competitive minigames etc.)

    alehel, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

    So what games do you like?

    Vestria, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

    This reads like dialogue written for the “pretentious writer” friend character trope who is always shitting on other peoples’ work but hasn’t ever had any success with his own in every B-list Hollywood meta comedy: smug, confident, completely wrong, and utterly without purpose or substance.

    Plus_a_Grain_of_Salt,

    Yes, there was an odd vibe here I couldn’t pin down, I think you found it.

    vogumvogum, do gaming w Why I Probably Hate your Favorite Video Game's "Awesome Story" (an incomplete list)

    I think it’s long past the time that we kill dead the notion of The Player = The Player-Character

    shakesbeare, do gaming w Does an MMO with no way to turn money into power exist?
    @shakesbeare@beehaw.org avatar

    Really think you should give FFXIV a deeper thought beyond just looking at the store and finding the level skips.

    Even if you were to buy a skip, there’s still a considerable amount of game in front of you to play. They are only meant to get people to modern content without having to (to some people) slog through hundreds of hours of older stuff. It’s not a p2e micro-transaction by any means — far from it.

    Vestria,

    I agree with this whole-heartedly, there’s simply no way any reasonable person would consider skipping story content as buying power in the context of how FFXIV works as an MMO.

    It lets players jump right into the new content without worrying about dozens or hundreds of hours of prior story they may or may not want to play through to get to the latest content at the same level as everyone else starting out, that’s all.

    brsrklf,

    They are only meant to get people to modern content without having to (to some people) slog through hundreds of hours of older stuff.

    Counterpoint : if it was just that, it’d be free.

    shakesbeare,
    @shakesbeare@beehaw.org avatar

    The money makers here want you to play their game. The more time you invest, the more money they make in subs. If you want to skip all that game and thus, in some ways, get all that progress done without having to pay all that sub, you’ve gotta fork over some cash.

    brsrklf,

    You don’t cost them anything for not playing part of their game, and you don’t owe them anything.

    If your interpretation of why they do this is right, it meand they want you to believe that “modern content” is a reward for playing through the rest. Nobody should think like that. Playing the game is the reward for playing the game.

    It’s like if Netflix made you pay an extra as you start watching a series on season 4, because you didn’t pay your subscription through the three previous seasons.

    liminis,

    Absolutely, it’s absurd to conflate XIV’s level skips with being able to buy gold in other games.

    XIV was actually my first thought re: the OP’s query.

    ericbomb,

    Hopefully you understand why I was a little suspicious!

    But I tried it out, and holy moly it feels like a different era. My brain can’t compute the fact that I just got a free to play game (Just have the demo, which honestly sounds like a ton of game) and it’s not trying to sell me anything in game? The tutorial was all about game play in universe, and never once told me about premium currency? My ui doesn’t have 5 different things? Crafting doesn’t involve long cool downs that I can 5 gems to speed up?

    Like it feels like a different era of game, thank you for being persistent! I’ve only played a couple hours, but so far it feels like it’s going to become a comfort game at the very least.

    Gollan, do gaming w What is your favorite pre-EA Star Wars game?

    X-Wing (1993). I’m old. It is still one of the best games I’ve ever played.

    thekerker,
    @thekerker@beehaw.org avatar

    I spent so many hours on that game as a kid. I had a Sidewinder joystick on my Acer i386 running Windows 3.11.

    Years later I played X-wing: Alliance but it just wasn’t the same.

    ranandtoldthat, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?

    Bastion or Transistor, both early Supergiant games.

    Pseu, do gaming w Best sub-20 hour games?
    • Ori and Ori: Will of the Wisps. These games are beautiful and atmospheric. The story is basic, but it’s a world to get lost in.
    • All of the supergiant games (except for maybe Hades). So Bastion, Transistor and Pyre. Dripping with style, Bastion and Transistor have a pretty straightforward story, but it’s well told. Pyre’s story is a bit more complex, with a heavy focus on characters and your choices with them.
    Chobbes,

    Pyre is criminally underrated.

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