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thingsiplay, do gaming w why do many game run better with Proton than on native Linux builds? i know that it's a non-issue from the technical point of view, but it grinds my gears.

Also what do you mean as “runs better”? As in “better performance” or “better compatibility”? I’ll give you one answer for each question, but off course its not the only one. Other cases may have another explanation why the Proton version runs better. This is a complicated topic which cannot have a generalized answer for all games.

  • For performance: Developers focus on the Windows version and may not be very talented at Linux development or environments. So optimizing the Windows build by the devs will obviously make that version better. Plus optimizations and some trickery from Valve (and off course others) in Proton might also help, that is not affecting the Linux native build.
  • For compatibility: Proton does a better job at providing an environment that is the same each time the game is installed. Linux native changes too much and too often and differs a lot per distribution. At least that is what I think, not sure if that is even correct.
FrederikNJS, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?

Outer Wilds covered a lot of emotions for me. Wonder, excitement, sorrow, fear, relief, anger, frustration, calm, contemplativeness, despair, hope, terror, acceptance.

It’s my favorite game ever, and the less you know about it when you play it, the better.

thirdBreakfast, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?
@thirdBreakfast@lemmy.world avatar

Doki Doki Literature Club is a fun dating sim, but it has slightly more emotional breadth than that, so it might pass this test.

yermaw,

God damn I wish I’d stumbled across that naturally instead of being forced into it because i cant tell you lol spoilers iykyk lol dude you gotta play it.

Tap for spoilerI found Inscryption naturally though, I had no idea it was gonna do half the shit it did. That cheered me right up.

Palacegalleryratio, do gaming w why do many game run better with Proton than on native Linux builds? i know that it's a non-issue from the technical point of view, but it grinds my gears.

A lot of Linux ports are not the best quality to begin with, or even if they were good once, they’re out of date, utilising old fashioned technology that may not be the best at taking advantage of modern hardware. Conversely the windows version was often better built to begin with, and the translation layers have had a huge amount of effort put into them to make them as performant as possible and utilise as much of the hardwares capacity as they can, so much so that sometimes the proton version of windows games running on Linux is actually more performant than the windows native version on running on windows!

lelgenio, do gaming w why do many game run better with Proton than on native Linux builds? i know that it's a non-issue from the technical point of view, but it grinds my gears.
@lelgenio@lemmy.ml avatar

I assume this is part due to many games only having support for OpenGL and DirectX, and no Vulkan support. OpenGL has the worse performance of the three, and DirectX is windows only.

But when you using proton, you are likely also dxvk, taking benefit of the optimizations made by game/engine developers for DirectX, while suffering little overhead from the DirectX to Vulkan conversion.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Suggest some games according to my laptop's hardware
  • Half Life 1
  • Half Life 1 Opposing Force
  • The Elder Scrolls III Morrowind
  • Halo Combat Evolved
pedka, do gaming w My thoughts on Elden Ring
@pedka@lemmy.ml avatar

before i read that, have you played Shadow of the Erdtree? i haven’t and i don’t want spoilers.

King_Simp,

No I haven’t, and I didn’t say anything about it, so don’t worry

pedka,
@pedka@lemmy.ml avatar

solid takes there

Dequei, do gaming w Ah, yes Stranger...
@Dequei@sopuli.xyz avatar

Pesetas?

Gerudo, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?

Spiritfarer

First, it feels like a cozy little game, awesome artwork, everything’s happy and chill. Then they hit you with the real game, helping people cross over after they died. Not so bad. Then the REAL real game is explained to you, and it is gut-wrenching. I didn’t just have a tear or 2, I full on ugly cried. Every emotion is utilized in that game.

yermaw,

I might need to reinstall that, I cant remember if I finished it or not. Hedgehog Granny broke my heart hard.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

which emotional extremes? happiness? joy? fear? sadness? terror? hunger? beautiful food? lust? lust for the beautiful food? i got a lot of emotions just right now lets be real, there’s more than two.

Katana314,

Sorry I should have clarified.

I specifically meant hunger and lust. I will begin removing other examples.

MycelialMass,

I dont think hunger is an emotion

SharkAttak,
@SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org avatar

What? I can't believe you forgot "I'm loving it!"

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Tell me this doesn’t uh evoke or invoke, maybe invoice I dunno anymore, an emotional response

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8a3d0e5c-4417-4967-8dc7-7b32b5155cbc.gif

MycelialMass,

Oh no doubt food can evoke an emotional response, like coming home on a cold rainy day to smell of your loved one baking cookies or something. But hunger itself I wouldnt class as an emotion

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

i guess you haven’t experienced capitalized Hunger yet then. like, not eating for two months hunger. trust me, it’s an emotion as well as a physical response.

justsquigglez,
@justsquigglez@leminal.space avatar

“Hey Charlie, can you go ahead and invoice me that hunger by the end of the day? Thaaaaaaaanks.”

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Oh god you guys, this better be freakin important

RageAgainstTheRich, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?

This Valiant Hearts is very emotional but very good. …steampowered.com/…/Valiant_Hearts_The_Great_War_…

Katana314,

It’s hard to tell which extreme is going to surprise people first with Valiant Hearts.

Like, it’s a WW1 game so of course you’re expecting it to be brutal. Then, it’s cute to have so many stories of soldiers not based around killing people - just adventure, puzzle-solving, making friends across country lines, as well as the heartfelt letters written.

Then it gets to Chemin des Dames, and holy shit, not even the most brutal shooters evoke the unfathomable amounts of death happening in those meat grinders. Neither element would’ve hit so hard without the other giving you that kind of whiplash.

squaresinger, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?

Minecraft: Super chill sandbox building game, but when you are lost 150 blocks deep in the mines, just found your first diamonds in the dark after you ran out of torches and you hear that hissing sound just behind you…

Sonotsugipaa, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?

I don’t know about mastering both, but Project Zomboid maybe?

It can be somewhat chill and even relaxing occasionally, but when it makes you anxious it makes you ANXIOUS (and queasy, eventually).

missingno, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Mother 3. "No crying until the end."

knight_alva, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?
@knight_alva@lemmy.world avatar

How much are you willing to dig for it? I’m playing through hollow knight atm and have been shocked at the emotional depth that hides in the margins of the world. If you plow through the game and only touch the required content then all you get is the overall somber vibe. But if you turn every stone, talk to every npc, complete every side quest, you might be surprised at how much love and loss and joy and pain there is in the story.

Overall it is about picking through the ruins of a dead kingdom. You can engage with that as much or as little as you want. IMO they do an outstanding job of rewarding you for the effort.

Suck_on_my_Presence,

Dung beetle boss never fails to make me laugh

knight_alva,
@knight_alva@lemmy.world avatar

The dude is so happy about his lot in life too.

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