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aksdb, do games w Is mafia 3 really that bad?

It’s an okay game, but far worse than the first two. They forced an open world onto it, and made it pretty repetitive. The DLC is more linear and feels a lot more like a typical Mafia story telling.

SnotFlickerman,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Oh man I remember the open-world obsession era. It’s still sort of with us, but a few companies are daring to stick with linear narratives that don’t allow as many branching paths, like Control or Alan Wake 2. Even non-linear narratives are being pulled off in non-open-world games like Baldur’s Gate 3.

NocturnalMorning, do games w Is mafia 3 really that bad?

I liked all three mafia games. I only just played them in the last couple years tho, so I had no idea what anybody else was saying about them.

passepartout, do games w What are things you don't like about mafia 2?
@passepartout@feddit.org avatar

I’m not going to play Mafia 2 since Mafia 1 was way too short for me, like 5-6 hours and I didn’t rush it. Not much to do after the main story ist complete and not the biggest replay value.

Cadeillac,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

I’m so confused. Did you enjoy it and wanted more? I have good news, there is a sequel…

passepartout,
@passepartout@feddit.org avatar

I kind of liked it but there was not enough content to justify the price, even at the sale i got it from. But maybe i was just asking too much from a game that has been released more than 20 years ago.

Cadeillac,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

This makes a lot more sense! You feel you didn’t receive what you thought you had paid for, and don’t want to do that again. Sorry for downvoting you initially, but I hope you can see how it originally came off

passepartout,
@passepartout@feddit.org avatar

I liked it, I guess I could have emphasized that a little more. I just wished there would be more to it, since the game is coming from a big publisher (2K) and the imho hefty asking price of 40€ (for the definitive edition, without sale).

No need to feel sorry for voting on opinions either way btw ;)

Cadeillac,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

I just didn’t understand that it was the value you had a problem with. I shouldn’t downvote an opinion anyways, you were engaging in the conversation

Maven,

“there wasn’t enough content so I refuse to play more content” ???

otp, do games w A long time ago, a obscure buggy VR game unintentionally terrified me more than expected.

How does one "almost get PTSD? Was it Acute Stress Disorder?

memeflicks,

Oh shoot, not really. None of those, in fact. I wasn’t really thinking when using the term in the title and was so used to all the memey usage of it.

otp,

Cheers. I’m very much against the “memification” of psychological disorders. Another commonly “memed” one is OCD. If you look up what those actually are all about, you’ll see a major gap between the meme version and the real version.

Which is normally fine for most things, until someone says they have PTSD or OCD and the average person thinks “Oh lol it’s no big deal, I have that sometimes too!”

Brodude, do games w What are things you don't like about mafia 2?

The trash ending? We never had the end of the story for the main cast until mafia 3 a decade later.

Sina, do gaming w Wireless mouse with silent switches recommendation

You could buy any Asus gaming mouse with user replaceable switches and order a bag of Huano silent switches from AE. (if the noise increases or the switch dies just replace the switc+h)

This is not a cheap option, but could potentially endure for a longer time.

cheddar, do games w What are things you don't like about mafia 2?
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

I remember it was fine when I played it 14 years ago. Not as good as the original, but quite enjoyable. The remaster is comically bugged though, at least on Xbox.

The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo, do games w What are things you don't like about mafia 2?
@The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world avatar

-I finished Mafia 2 long before I finished Mafia 1 and I loved it. But after playing Mafia 1 DE, I replayed Mafia 2 and the story felt worse than Mafia 1. -F***ing police. They are everywhere. -Stupid achievements like “drive 1000 miles”, “collect 150 posters”.

Jackthelad, do games w What are things you don't like about mafia 2?

Collecting the wanted posters.

JackGreenEarth, do games w Steam adds new "Trending Free" tab to hide demos from new & trending
@JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee avatar

I like free games, eg Shattered Pixel Dungeon, Minetest, Unciv, etc. Why would people be against free games, especially here where people are generally FLOSS advocates?

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m not against free games, and if I was interested in a free game I would actively search for one. But usually if you’re searching for trending games it’s because there’s a sale going and you don’t give a shit about the free to play games at that time. Especially considering that the big free games that are “trending” are the same games every single sale.

I like the better separation between the two for sure

Rakonat,

It’s less that I hate free games, it’s more that a lot of games on Steam that are free are either the freemium model, where they are basically mobile games with inapp purchases you’re expected to buy to make progress, or some some shovelware trash that’s a one trick pony and generally just a knock off of something more popular and better executed.

Yes there are examples of great free to play games, but overall so many of them on steam are not worth downloading and clog up the trending list since if someone really wanted their game full of microtransactions to get noticed, they can just work a bot net to register new accounts and download the game to cause the steam algorithm to pick it up and put it on the trending page despite it having a poor user count.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

Who is against free games?

Moonrise2473, do gaming w Wireless mouse with silent switches recommendation

I got a generic office range Logitech and it’s super silent

RangerJosie, do games w Steam adds new "Trending Free" tab to hide demos from new & trending

This is why console demos are so rare anymore.

Try before you buy means fewer sales on launch day.

Informed consumers are careful with their money. And that’s bad. Apparently.

Rakonat,

When your core gameplay loop is all of 15 minutes long that feeds into a 40-60 hour repetitive grind to unlock a slightly better item, new title or recolored cosmetic, combined with a complete absence of quality or competent writing, innovative mechanics while it’s apparent most of the budget went into marketing and pre-rendered cutscenes that can be just watched on youtube, yeah it’s bad to give potential customers a 30 minute demo that displays everything your game is without hinting any additional benefit for purchasing the full game.

arudesalad, do games w #StopKillingGames Update: Sweden and Poland pass threshold as initiative reaches 25%

If only brexit didn’t happen…

Pika, do games w Steam adds new "Trending Free" tab to hide demos from new & trending
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh my God this is so much nicer. I was getting so sick of trying to navigate the category and having the same live action free to play games appear every time. I have some games that I can remove from my ignore list now

haui_lemmy, do games w Steam adds new "Trending Free" tab to hide demos from new & trending

bUt sTeAm iS mY gOd! hOw dArE yOu!!!

glimse,

This is literally an example of why Steam gets praised as the only good game store. They make a change, users complain that part of the change sucks, and they listen to the feedback

haui_lemmy,

Steam does provide a good product, no critique there. My point is the fact that they too are employing anti competitive measures and serve a billionaire. I wont stop criticizing that.

Wrufieotnak,

But that was nowhere close to what you wrote though. It is perfectly fine to remind people that Valve is not the customers friend.

haui_lemmy,

Well, I might wanna be more direct in my critique in the future. Thanks for giving constructive criticism.

glimse,

Your point is irrelevant to this post so you’re just being obnoxious by forcing in criticism

haui_lemmy,

My point is everything but irrelevant. Sorry you cant see that.

jorp, (edited )

I dunno man you’re like the people that insert politics into every thread, and I say that as one of them.

Sometimes we can talk about a Russian person doing something nice or we can talk about a cat in Istanbul without bringing up genocide.

EDIT: or that They Might Be Giants song

haui_lemmy,

I see your point. A reason why I brought this up is because valve does not see criticism for the things they also do wrong and especially on this platform, rarely does anyone look at them from a non favorable view. Thats not because they dont do wrong but because they are good at marketing and other gaming companies are a lot worse than them.

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

No one is seeing it. It’s not there.

cheddar,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

I wont stop criticizing that.

When did you start? Because that’s low-effort trolling irrelevant to “your point”:

bUt sTeAm iS mY gOd! hOw dArE yOu!!!

ggppjj,

This would’ve been a useless comment even if it were relevant.

haui_lemmy,

Whatever mate. I wont stop criticizing anti competitive companies, there billionaire owners and the crowd that worships them.

ggppjj,

I mean, comments are free. If you believe that’s a decent enough use of your limited time on this Earth, who am I to argue?

haui_lemmy,

The underlying issue here is that we are in this mess because our parents and grandparents didnt do this (enough). So yes, going against corporations is kind of my hobby.

ggppjj,

I don’t see how posting to lemmy in general is going to influence people that disagree with you both because I don’t think there are many people here that do and also I think that your comment in particular is so far removed from the topic of this article that it borders on being a non sequitur entirely, and I’m worried you may get the feeling that the people downvoting you are against your message and not the fact that your message isn’t relevant beyond being a knee-jerk reactionary cry against Valve, one of the only privately owned companies that seems to listen to user feedback as thoroughly as the article demonstrates.

I don’t believe Valve is a monopoly and I’ve directly been able to talk to Gabe Newell via email multiple times over multiple years. Maybe some of their inter-business dealings could be better for their business partners, but as a lifelong steam user that so far has felt comfortable buying almost every hardware product they’ve put out I continue to feel comfortable supporting them because they seem to actually care about their customers from what I have directly experienced.

I don’t mean any of this in a confrontational tone, and I apologize for the general shill vibes of that second paragraph. I’d be happy to continue the discussion, I think your message is correct and good and I think there are better more effective ways of acting on it.

haui_lemmy,

I do appreciate you taking the time to write this up and I didnt get a confrontational vibe from you.

But excusing it by saying „could be better“ makes you part of the problem.

Billionaires are the cancer of this world and anti competitive actions have evidently been committed, if you like to hear it or not.

Tell your friend gabe to start making a real difference in the world because he actually can and then you can say its not that bad.

ggppjj, (edited )

I don’t know what a solution would look like here. In your opinion, what should be done to stop Valve from being anti-competitive? What specifics should I be raising awareness of and looking into? What should be done by/about Gabe Newell?

I would like to know more about what you believe the solution here is, because at its core I see Valve as the end result of very talented and self-driven people doing an amazing job at delivering a very good product. I would hope that would lead to success, and I am given to understand that Gabe (to focus back in) is not a disinterested corporate figurehead as the position is with other software companies.

There’s some amount of anti-competitive behavior that is just… Doing business in a space with competitors. I write private code that I use myself and within the company I work for that I choose not to share with my competitors, is that anti-competitive behavior? This is a dumb example, but also I haven’t seen a direct convincing argument as to what Valve is doing to deserve the label.

In many ways, to provide my viewpoint, they’ve directly supported both unofficial modifications to their storefront by users (Decky Loader, for loading steam deck mods), modifications to their hardware (OLED screen mods, replacement parts on iFixit for reasonable prices), and even support Windows on the deck and are beginning (through reading commit logs) to support competitors’ hardware in their custom OS. They’ve singlehandedly pushed gaming on Linux into the mainstream eye and are doing well with it.

All that to say that I don’t think the way that Gabe became a billionaire was bad, and while I would prefer he use his personal wealth to better society I both don’t know enough about what he does with his money to know whether or not he’s already doing that and also think that any solution here would genuinely go against fundamental liberties and personal freedoms that I personally agree with. I’m not an absolutist on this, but enough of what I do know about the history of Valve and Gabe in specific lead me to lend him some amount of goodwill, because he has through his works and actions earned it from me.

I don’t disagree that billionaires are bad. Personally, I strongly believe in a Star Trek post-monetary future.

I wouldn’t call Gabe Newell a friend, although I suspect I don’t disagree with many of his opinions.

You are able to email him at gaben@valvesoftware.com, as is anyone else. I’ve emailed twice. Once when I was 13 to inform him of a bug in portal 2, and once a few years ago to inquire about steam being ported to arm.

There was a lot to explain about my position there and it may be a bit disjointed. If there’s anything I can clarify on my thinking, I’d be happy to.

Moghul,

What? Isn’t this a common W for steam? This seems like a good thing to me.

haui_lemmy,

I was referring to the very vocal crowd that can not ever accept steam being criticized for dominating the market and serving its billionaire owner, however „less bad“ he is. There are no ethical billionaires.

It could be viewed as a measure to get free games away from the main focus so valve can make more money.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

puts free games into focus in their own tab

It could be viewed as a measure to get free games away from the main focus so valve can make more money.

incomprehension

haui_lemmy,

Putting them in their own not the main tab does add a click to viewing them, no?

pipe01,

The only reason they are in their own tab now is because users complained about how they were on the main tab, that’s the whole point of this thread. Get your head out of your ass.

haui_lemmy,

Nice wording. Blocked.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

There is litterally an “all the freebies here” button on the page now

Harvey656,

Because your criticism sucks. You want to take something good from people Because “rich man is rich”, who cares as long as product good and not overly taking my money.

haui_lemmy,

Thank you for your opinion.

jorp,

You should evaluate why you came to a barely populated thread, and made up a complete straw man to get upset over.

You’re manufacturing outrage for yourself. That’s not healthy.

weststadtgesicht,

Instead they decided to ignore your comment and rile up people in sibling comments…

TachyonTele,

The irony of someone who uses “AI” and spicy autocorrect to rank employees trying to complain about a company people love to work at, and provides a good product.

haui_lemmy,

Let me see if I got your statement right: you took the comment I made on another post to spare people having to click a link as me talking about myself?

In any case, steam does provide a good product but it also uses anti competitive measures to stay on top of the market and is owned by a billionaire. There are no ethical billionaires, sorry.

TachyonTele,

What anti competition measures do they use?

haui_lemmy, (edited )

So I was right about you trying to use something against me that you didnt understand. Good to know.

Edit: Since people will probably want to know, here are some links:

Have fun

TachyonTele,

Points 1 and 4 are the same case.
Point 2 hasn’t even started.
And point 3 isn’t even a case, it’s defending Steam.

Fun was had, thank you.

haui_lemmy,

Whatever you‘re doing, you might wanna do less of it. Valve has been doing these kinds of things for a long time and anyone who understands markets knows that there is no monopoly without taking out the competition.

In any case, I know you wouldnt admit it if I presented you with rockhard evidence that they did it and thats okay. I‘m not doing this for you.

TachyonTele,

Your the one that cares, dude. Not me.

Phegan,

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