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hmmm, do games w Which of theses games should i play?
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Minecraft

kayzeekayzee, do games w Is there a alternative platform to roblox for players and gamedevs?

You can do a lot in minecraft with mods and/or datapacks and plugins

simple, do games w Is there a alternative platform to roblox for players and gamedevs?
@simple@piefed.social avatar

Gmod is essentially Roblox's father. It's limited in what you can do but is still really good and has a shockingly active community.

The best Roblox alternative is S&box, but it's not out yet. It's a spiritual successor to Gmod that aims to be a gaming platform that's developer friendly and good to consumers. There's a developer alpha you can join to start making games in it, but the community is not there yet and it's likely a few years away.

kayzeekayzee,

Also worth mentioning that S&box is developed by the same guy as GMod

WolfLink, do games w Is there a alternative platform to roblox for players and gamedevs?

Minecraft (Java edition)

insomniac_lemon, (edited )

Luanti (formerly Minetest) might be closer to what OP is looking for. Both because LUA and because it’s platform-like.

EDIT: Also I didn’t notice at first, but OP’s previous post was asking about Minecraft vs. Luanti

Eldritch,
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hisao,

In my opinion Luanti is a living proof that top-down extensibility aka “we make monolithic engine in C++ and then provide some APIs for scripting via bindings for some scripting language on the side” doesn’t work well. You can’t change main menu, you can’t fix player controller (and the default one sucks), you can’t write your own renderer, etc. Because developers didn’t imagine someone would want that (actually they probably did, but they simply don’t have capacity to provide this). Good extensibility/modability should be automatic, on binary level. Like what you get by developing in bytecode/JIT-compiled languages like Java/C# or in old Unreal Engines where everything was done in bytecode-(de)compilable special language called Unreal Script.

insomniac_lemon, (edited )

The problem for me is that it repeats many of the issues I had with Minecraft, so I don’t really have a good base to start with. Not really interested in LUA either, so there is even less motivation for me to make something from the ground up (I should probably be doing something with Godot instead).

I imagine the benefit for Luanti would be if you want to make a simple grid-based game it should be easy to do so (similar-to-but-easier-than a MC mod for example). Trying different games though, it was hit-or-miss for me especially when it just spits you falling into an empty world (I assume that’s a known config-error or incompatibility).

WolfLink, do games w Which of theses games should i play?

If you liked OG Minecraft try playing some mods but do Minecraft Java instead of Bedrock

BuboScandiacus, do games w Which of theses games should i play?
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Minecraft bedrock edition is bad

ilinamorato,

Bedrock Edition is fine. It’s basically at feature parity with Java now. The mod scene is almost non-existent, but for vanilla it’s fine. If that’s where your friends are playing, you’ll have a great time.

PlzGivHugs, do games w Which of theses games should i play?

Assuming you’d have to re-buy Minecraft, I’d.say at least give Luanti a try. At the very least, Its free, so you can switch if you don’t like it.

That said, personally, I had too many issues with it. Specifically, I had performance issues, found that the graphics that looked worse (subjectively) and were much harder to modify, and kept running into roadblocks that were annoying to fix, like having to figure out how to grant myself permissions for a bunch of different actions.

groovyplane, do gaming w History tends to repeat itself

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  • Dremor,
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    Not mine, just a cross-post from another community. No idea who is OP.

    JustARaccoon, do games w Which of theses games should i play?

    If you got burnt out on Minecraft have a look at Vintage Story too

    dracs,

    Vintage Story such an amazing game. Worth a look 👀

    ivanafterall, do gaming w A Crusader Kings fan makes a small request
    @ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

    Does anyone know how NOT to have all of your bloodlines end due to excessive incest in this game? All of my characters are too mentally challenged to reproduce. It seems like a really odd narrative choice by the devs.

    Wolf,

    It seems like a really odd narrative choice by the devs.

    Odd, but surprisingly historically accurate.

    Maybe the dev’s are secretly tying to get you to understand that you are playing as the bad guys and them eventually dying off due to their own disgusting traits is a feature and not a bug?

    LorIps,
    @LorIps@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes, but these were all through first cousin marriages which were only legal if the Pope gave permission. What most CK3 players do is marry their kids so they don’t lose shit-tons of land because of the stupid partition system they are using.

    Wolf, (edited )

    If you read it, it was much more than first cousin marriages. There were brothers marrying sisters, Uncles marrying their nieces, first cousins, second cousins…if there was a type of incest, you can bet your ass a ‘Royal Highness’ has practiced it at some point.

    What most CK3 players do is marry their kids

    I hope you mean to say that they marry their kids to each other, though that’s only relatively (get it?) better than marrying your own kids. Not a sustainable long term sexual practice at any rate.

    https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/0f718ca2-f768-4c1b-afaf-b36178ff899b.png

    so they don’t lose shit-tons of land because of the stupid partition system they are using.

    Not losing out on land and wealth is precisely why Consanguinity was practiced among ‘royalty’. You are basically mad at your historical game for being historically accurate.

    LorIps, (edited )
    @LorIps@lemmy.world avatar

    The historical reason for cousin marriage were generally to cement alliances between relatives and to keep land in the family should the male line of some house die out, those aren’t the reason you marry relatives CK3.

    In CK3 you marry relatives because you want your children to be herculean beautiful geniuses and to stop your daughters weak claim from becoming a problem.

    I generally don’t really like such list articles as they are mostly sensationalist and cheap, this being the perfect example of one. In the case of CK we are not talking about inbreeding in the Egyptian dynasties (which had religious rather than practical reasons). Hawai’i seems similar though I know to little about their nobility to judge. The section they have about Roman inbreeding was honestly just terrible and completely divorced from reality. I am not aware of any marriage between siblings among European nobility (between like 600-now) (other than Jean V of Armagnac that I just found on Wikipedia and which upon first read sounds like an extreme exception). Could you name another one?

    Wolf,

    In CK3 you marry relatives because you want your children to be herculean beautiful geniuses

    Well that’s clearly not accurate.

    to stop your daughters weak claim from becoming a problem.

    What does this mean?

    In the case of CK we are not talking about inbreeding in the Egyptian dynasties

    Obviously. The point is that inbreeding among douchebag families that fancied themselves better than others (Royals) has been extremely common throughout history- Including medieval Europe.

    I am not aware of any marriage between siblings among European nobility (between like 600-now),Could you name another one?

    Julien and Marguerite de Ravalet they were executed for it though.

    Really, First Cousin marriage was only slightly better than sibling marriage anyway considering that a single family (dynasty) would often marry close relatives for hundred of years- it was nearly the same thing when talking about genetic diversity.

    For example Charles II of Spain’s family tree was fucked. His parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were all related to each other. His Mom was his Dads Niece, making his Grandma his Aunt, His Maternal Great Grandfather was also his Paternal Great Uncle, and 3 of his 4 of great grandparents were products of incest in the first place. His Coefficient of Inbreeding (COI) was 0.25, which is the same as it would be if his parents were brother and sister.

    I’ve thought way too much about incest for one day. Idk if this will help you play your game better or not, but I think this is about as deep of a dive as I can stomach for now.

    LorIps,
    @LorIps@lemmy.world avatar

    Ah, you never played Crusader Kings.

    Wolf,

    No lol. I like strategy games but I loathe the Crusades and Kings, so I don’t think it would be something I would be interested in.

    ZombiFrancis,

    I played CK2 more than CK3, but mainly I recall a successful dynasty winds up being too desireable. It’s not about the blood relation, it’s about the… huge tracts of land!

    So while you can control it somewhat within your own realm and dynasty, my reliable go-to strategy was always marry Lowborns with good traits. Let/hope the stats make up for lack of title and opinion hits.

    Kolanaki, do games w Is there a alternative platform to roblox for players and gamedevs?
    @Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

    Fortnite. Yes, Fortnite. They’ve added a bunch of crazy stuff similar to Roblox where you can be paid for your content. Hell, Gaijin just bought the rights to a stupid custom map in the game for this very reason.

    It’s free, and so are the tools. But the tools are also just… UE5. Which is also free and literally made to develop games.

    simple,
    @simple@piefed.social avatar

    It's called UEFN (Unreal Editor for Fortnite), not Fortnite the game specifically. From what I understand it's a watered down version of Unreal Engine and is really good to use, lets you publish your games straight to the platform.

    LovableSidekick, do gaming w A game, or series of, you believe belongs in a museum?
    whotookkarl, (edited ) do games w Is there a alternative platform to roblox for players and gamedevs?

    Doom WADs for a huge back catalog, elder scrolls mods for Bethesda tools and a pretty big player base, Unity/UE for more professional game designer tools, mega man maker for something quick and simple and fun to jump into

    Furbag, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

    Could someone just make, like, Raunchy Mastercard and just process payments from everyone including all the porn and weird shit that the other mainstream companies don’t want? It seems like the payment processors being puritanical dipshits is a weakness that could be exploited by an enterprising competitor.

    But then again, we’re talking about a natural monopoly that has been in place for decades at this point. I wouldn’t expect them to exactly play fair.

    Smokeless7048,

    The problem is that people like MC and visa would then ban you from sending money TO RaunchyCard.

    So it just moves the problem back a step.

    Ephera, do games w Is there a alternative platform to roblox for players and gamedevs?

    If you tie yourself to a commercial platform, it’s gonna take advantage of you. That’s how they make money. So, I would also recommend using an open-source game engine like Godot and then distributing on multiple platforms.

    The closest open-source thing to the Roblox model, that I can think of, is Luanti, which is basically a game engine and distribution platform for Minecraft-like games. Don’t expect to make money off of it, though.

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