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selokichtli, do gaming w Duality of Gamer

This is me playing Elden Ring. I learned to ditch games I don’t enjoy after finishing The Last of Us Part II.

EDIT: Loved Dark Souls and Bloodborne, BTW, so, it’s not about it being too hard.

Derpenheim,

Elden Ring? Maybe we had very different experiences, but it felt to like Elden Ring was the easiest to find my way around in

selokichtli,

We sure did. Not only was hard to find the intended route to advance the game, it also got too long in consequence, to the point I lost all interest in the story and lore. With some luck, maybe our experiences could have been similar.

Derpenheim,

Can I ask what part you remember being lost at? Im not trying to retroactively guide you through the game, just trying to come to grips with where the game lost you

selokichtli, (edited )

Well, several parts, actually, but I definitely don’t remember all of them. I just let go after defeating the Fire Giant when I realized there was still too much of the game to play to finish it. I was already burnt out and not enjoying my time. Other parts that got me bored were the infinite amount of optional bosses, so many of them being harder than actual bosses. I remember that getting to Radhan was a maze, too. Also the Giant Snake boss that requires a specific magical weapon that doesn’t show anything special against other enemies to be defeated, I mean, I guess someone had beaten it without that weapon, but it becomes stupidly hard even for Souls games. One thing that was a constant set back was that comment in the Round table about an albinuaric woman knowing some secret path to advance. Overall, I really couldn’t keep track of the secondary quests.

Now that I think about it, it probably had to do with the fact that I don’t play games online. So, there is a lot of feedback and help from other players that wasn’t coming to me, I guess.

lordbritishbusiness,

Elden Ring has a lot of focus on bouncing around the map and sort of finding stuff.

There’s hints if you’re looking for a specific challenge, but overall you just sort of wander until you say “ooh cool” followed by “ow that was really tough” and eventually getting through it laughing and saying “you all said a tarnished couldn’t possibly do this, now who’s laughing!”.

But hey, if you’re not feeling it, don’t feel bad about it. You kinda need to be in the right mood for it, and I’ve not been able to find the energy for a replay because the ‘oooh shiny’ from exploration is gone.

Dark Souls has a similar exploration piece, but much more defined pathways, and I find it more replayable. ER is just so much.

Katana314,

I had this exact issue with the first two Dark Souls games. I explored, but did not find the “intended path forward” that would give me a gradual difficulty curve.

This is why I think a better game formula is: Give players some kind of overt objective marker or in-world guidance for their primary destination, but also point out they’re going to start having a very hard time if they never explore for themselves.

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slimerancher, do games w Day 408 of posting a Daily Screenshot from the games I've been playing
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I want to try this, but I am not a big fan of sandbox games without any set goals. Is there any kind of single player campaign in it?

lankydryness,

Sortaaaa, it’s pretty weak from what I remember and mostly served to give you a reason to explore more of the sandbox and use the different features of the game.

Schal330,

It has a loose story to get to the center of the universe, but I can’t say I’ve ever made it there as I always end up doing other things

slimerancher,
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Heh, have heard similar things from others, just not sure if that would work for me, but still, sounds like worth a try at least.

plm00,

The campaign is more or less the tutorial. Otherwise, you set your own goals. Like unlocking new building materials, buying a new ship, stuff like that. It’s a sandbox. A very good one at that.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. I guess I should just give it a try some day.

MyNameIsAtticus,
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There is a story. I wouldn’t say it’s particularly fascinating unless you really love Sci-Fi but there’s a bunch of side quests to do as well

Doc_Crankenstein,

The game has periodic expeditions that have some story to them, and there is the main overarching story plus the “Journey to the Center” bit

But yea, it’s mostly a sandbox where you make cool bases (and now cool space ships) or try to make number go up and grow an intergalactic trading empire.

slimerancher,
@slimerancher@lemmy.world avatar

Number going up can be fun for a while too…

SlothMama, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?

Omori. Somber, sad, but goofy and joyful.

Other times terrifying, horrifying worse than a horror game.

I wept through the last five hours of this game, just straight up crying.

This game gave me everything from anxiety to existential dread, to laughs and moments that made my go aww.

This game spoke to me.

SereneSadie, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?

I dunno, I think GTA5’s true ending with the trio working together to close off each other’s loose ends is a pretty satisfying finale.

I agree with the assessment in regards to 4 though. To me, it always came off as ‘nothing gets better, even if we have to shoehorn in a reason for that because we didn’t actually make a different finale’.

littleomid, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?

The Dark Souls series imo.

iltoroargento, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?
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I recently finished Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 and I think it fits the bill perfectly. I laughed, I cried, I raged, I celebrated, I was in awe. Really a beautiful story and deep take on life and existence. I went into it blind and highly recommend that kind of experience as well.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
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omg i just got to the point where maelle’s hair did the thing and i just about died. i’m going to have to buy this one, i got it from my local library.

iltoroargento,
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It’s bonkers lol yeah. I love the Gestrals.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
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Did you do the pointing at the screen thing when you fought Clair Obscur too?

rafoix, do games w Best Co-Op Games?

Lots of great options here already. I don’t see Larian’s Baldurs Gate 3 and Divinity Original Sin 2 here.

The screen gets a bit cramped in co-op but it’s perfectly playable and loads of fun playing these masterpiece RPGs on a couch with a significant other or a friend.

thingsiplay, do gaming w why do many game run better with Proton than on native Linux builds? i know that it's a non-issue from the technical point of view, but it grinds my gears.

Also what do you mean as “runs better”? As in “better performance” or “better compatibility”? I’ll give you one answer for each question, but off course its not the only one. Other cases may have another explanation why the Proton version runs better. This is a complicated topic which cannot have a generalized answer for all games.

  • For performance: Developers focus on the Windows version and may not be very talented at Linux development or environments. So optimizing the Windows build by the devs will obviously make that version better. Plus optimizations and some trickery from Valve (and off course others) in Proton might also help, that is not affecting the Linux native build.
  • For compatibility: Proton does a better job at providing an environment that is the same each time the game is installed. Linux native changes too much and too often and differs a lot per distribution. At least that is what I think, not sure if that is even correct.
FrederikNJS, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?

Outer Wilds covered a lot of emotions for me. Wonder, excitement, sorrow, fear, relief, anger, frustration, calm, contemplativeness, despair, hope, terror, acceptance.

It’s my favorite game ever, and the less you know about it when you play it, the better.

Palacegalleryratio, do gaming w why do many game run better with Proton than on native Linux builds? i know that it's a non-issue from the technical point of view, but it grinds my gears.

A lot of Linux ports are not the best quality to begin with, or even if they were good once, they’re out of date, utilising old fashioned technology that may not be the best at taking advantage of modern hardware. Conversely the windows version was often better built to begin with, and the translation layers have had a huge amount of effort put into them to make them as performant as possible and utilise as much of the hardwares capacity as they can, so much so that sometimes the proton version of windows games running on Linux is actually more performant than the windows native version on running on windows!

knight_alva, do games w What games have mastered "Both emotional extremes"?
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How much are you willing to dig for it? I’m playing through hollow knight atm and have been shocked at the emotional depth that hides in the margins of the world. If you plow through the game and only touch the required content then all you get is the overall somber vibe. But if you turn every stone, talk to every npc, complete every side quest, you might be surprised at how much love and loss and joy and pain there is in the story.

Overall it is about picking through the ruins of a dead kingdom. You can engage with that as much or as little as you want. IMO they do an outstanding job of rewarding you for the effort.

Suck_on_my_Presence,

Dung beetle boss never fails to make me laugh

knight_alva,
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The dude is so happy about his lot in life too.

lelgenio, do gaming w why do many game run better with Proton than on native Linux builds? i know that it's a non-issue from the technical point of view, but it grinds my gears.
@lelgenio@lemmy.ml avatar

I assume this is part due to many games only having support for OpenGL and DirectX, and no Vulkan support. OpenGL has the worse performance of the three, and DirectX is windows only.

But when you using proton, you are likely also dxvk, taking benefit of the optimizations made by game/engine developers for DirectX, while suffering little overhead from the DirectX to Vulkan conversion.

pedka, do gaming w My thoughts on Elden Ring
@pedka@lemmy.ml avatar

before i read that, have you played Shadow of the Erdtree? i haven’t and i don’t want spoilers.

King_Simp,

No I haven’t, and I didn’t say anything about it, so don’t worry

pedka,
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solid takes there

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