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loops, do gaming w Running With Scissors Studios gives permission to pirate games

I wish more companies did this; however, I believe most CEO’s have the biased view that everyone has at least some money to spare which, as you probably know (likely on personal level), isn’t true.

I understand that participating in cultural aspects of society must cost money due to the very nature of economics (if you want the artist to continue to make art, make sure they don’t starve to death) but ‘pirating’ things is there not only as a stop gap to terrible service and personal risk (privacy violations, etc.), but also as an equalizer between those that have, and those that don’t.

ApathyTree,
@ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If I made enough that I didn’t have to worry about money while working full time, I’d be much more inclined to spend money on arts and entertainment. As it stands, my entertainment budget is almost entirely going to get food I don’t have to make myself.

But until society shifts focus to living wages (and not just enough to live, but enough to thrive)…… welp. Maybe those ceos should think on that, and start paying better.

loops,

Definitely. I recall a time in my life where I was working while still living with my parents. Needless to say I had A LOT of money I didn’t know what to do with. I ended up with about 2 storage bins of books and CD’s. I eventually got rid of them when computers became much more capable, but I think I would still buy them if I had extra income. I doubt I will though for at least another 2 decades, considering all the student debt I have. Who would’ve thought that loading people with crippling financial debt would be bad for the economy?

Tigwyk,
@Tigwyk@lemmy.vrchat-dev.tech avatar

I’ll be pedantic and say that CEOs are paid to think everyone has money to spend. ;)

But I totally agree with you.

loops,

I live for pedantry. (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞

postmeridiem, do gaming w Running With Scissors Studios gives permission to pirate games
@postmeridiem@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz avatar

The Darkwood devs did this even though they only have one game out, they even uploaded the torrent

bauhaus, do gaming w Running With Scissors Studios gives permission to pirate games
@bauhaus@lemmy.ml avatar

they’ve always tacitly been cool with it. they’ve dropped little hints like this into their games since the 90s.

apprehensively_human, do gaming w Running With Scissors Studios gives permission to pirate games

I have to imagine a comment like this does absolutely nothing to their sales figures. People who were going to download a cracked version of their games anyway remain unaffected now that they have a blessing, and I doubt people who weren’t going to pirate would now feel more inclined to do so.

This seems like good PR and frankly it should probably be the default position for games studios.

verysoft,

It won't have a large effect, but in previous examples of companies doing this, comments would lead me to believe more people who pirated end up buying the game to support the devs after trying it. It makes sense too, but same pirates are unlikely to buy anything that had denuvo and stuff shoved into it.

freeman,

Some games you dont even need a crack or anything, just access to the files.

For example with KSP, you can just clone the game directory anywhere and run it from there. Doesnt even need steam. Heck i copied it over to an M1 macbook once just to test the Macbooks performance…

Thats also how the mod managers like CKAN work with the game.

giant_smeeg,

Yeah, the whole piracy crackdown situation is so stupid.

I pirate a lot of media, if you added it all up it would be a lot of money (if I was to buy everything). The difference is, before I pirated I barely bought any of the media.

  • I pirate some games that i’d never buy. I buy all games I want to support.
  • I pay TV licence, netflix and amazon. I pirate tons of TV series because they aren’t on those services. I literally can’t buy some of them and if I could i’d need about 10 different streaming services.
  • Films, I pirate a lot of films. Before I pirated I never bought any films, i’d either wait for netflix/normal TV or just not watch them. I still go to the cinema for big releases.
  • I subscribe on patreon, github and donate to LOADS of projects, many of which i’ve pirated first or obtained a copy of (books are a big one here).

If you were to objectively look at the value of the pirated media, it would seem that i’ve “stolen” or studios have missed out on lots of revenue, but the truth is I pirate a lot of media, just because I can.

Rynelan,

It’s the streaming part for me.

Few years ago there was Netflix and Film1 in our country and an ISP with TV that also had a movie service.

That was about it.

Now there’s Prime Video, Disney+, HBO Max, SkyShowtime, Apple TV+ and ViaPlay added to it.

It’s impossible to have have just 1 and view what you want. Ofcourse you can keep on switching but some of them but it’s all just making it more complicated.

Solution? Pirate it. One source and everything available even stuff that isn’t on any on those services.

Also some movies can’t be bought digital.

IMO all movies and series should be available on any platform and let the streaming service decide if they want to have it in their portfolio. Only the “originals” should be locked to a platform to keep stuff unique.

And make every damn movie and series available for purchase.

giant_smeeg,

IMO all movies and series should be available on any platform and let the streaming service decide if they want to have it in their portfolio. Only the “originals” should be locked to a platform to keep stuff unique.

That’s just cable though. Not sure that’ll be any better. The second a company sees a revenue stream or thinks they’re missing out. They monetise it to the detriment of the customers.

WildlyCanadian,
@WildlyCanadian@lemmy.ca avatar

Just adding on to this, every game I’ve ever pirated I ended up buying later on. Or I bought in the past (this applies to the games I emulate)

giant_smeeg,

I would say 80% of the games I pirate, I put less than 30 mins into it.

teawrecks,

I was going to say, all artists should share this position, but I’ll do one better: if you don’t have this position, you’re not an artist. Feels bold to make any absolute claim about what makes an artist, but I feel safe on this one. If making sure you’re fairly compensated is higher priority than sharing your art, then you’re not an artist.

xgranade,

Artists, like all laborers, should be fairly compensated for their work. The idea that love of art should necessarily come into conflict with fair compensation is a primary vehicle for continuing the exploitation of creative labor.

That is somewhat orthogonal to the issue of piracy, though. Some of the most strongly anti-piracy platforms out there are also absolutely terrible in terms of labor rights (hence the current strikes in Hollywood, for instance). It’s notable that in this case, the studio seems to be saying fairly explicitly that piracy is indeed not the main obstacle to fair compensation, such that no conflict between their stance and labor rights needs to exist.

teawrecks,

If you think I’m arguing that artists should not be compensated for their work, then I’ve completely misrepresented myself. Is that what you thought I meant?

Sentinian,
@Sentinian@lemmy.one avatar

Before this tweet, they also mentioned piracy over grey market keyshops, which seems to be a lot more of a valid reason to endorse it. This seemly links to that tweet.

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It's missing some parts, oh wait it's vanilla not rjw thrumbo.

Nice plush 😁

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❤️

potterman28wxcv, do gaming w Just completed Undertale for the first time, this truly is something special.

I loved every second of playing Undertale. I got genuinely happy for the characters and I even cried a little. Definitely a masterpiece!

Firefox, do gaming w Just completed Undertale for the first time, this truly is something special.

Who was your favorite character of the bunch? I always like to see who people gravitate towards

knokelmaat,

Toriel and Papyrus :).

And the running child monster

Raining, do gaming w Just completed Undertale for the first time, this truly is something special.

Time for a Genocide run so you can casually murder all of the characters that you’ve become attached to!

ScrivenerX, do gaming w Just completed Undertale for the first time, this truly is something special.

It’s always good to mention “famously good” games. I played dark souls a year ago for the first time because of a post like this I saw.

To people who haven’t played Undertale; you’ll probably like it, it’s very good.

Omegamanthethird,

To anyone who hasn’t played it. You might love it, or it might not click with you. And that’s fine either way.

dire_rhea,

I have tried to get into this game multiple times throughout the years and I can never get over the slow walking and annoying bullet hell combat

lemillionsocks, do gaming w Just completed Undertale for the first time, this truly is something special.
@lemillionsocks@beehaw.org avatar

It’s a game that kinda sprung up out of nowhere and exploded in popularity, but the popularity was well deserved it is a pretty good game. The younger fanbase being a bunch of over excited and obsessed turned off a lot of people, but I feel like it’s a little silly to hate something because kids were acting like children.

Thebazilly, do gaming w Just completed Undertale for the first time, this truly is something special.

You can’t actually get the true ending on your first playthrough. You have to do the neutral ending first.

It is a wonderful little game!

Omegamanthethird,

I’m confused then. I played through Pacifist and thought I got the true ending. Though I am aware of a different ending if you play a Genocide run beforehand.

I’ve never heard of a neutral run in particular adding anything on subsequent runs.

cakemix,

Once you finished the final boss, you can re-load your last save and there are extra bits you need to do in order to get the full pacifist run and second final boss.

The game won’t start the events that take you there without first completing the neutral run final boss, even if you did a full pacifist run on your first play through.

Omegamanthethird, (edited )

So, I have only played through the entire game once and it was a Pacifist run. I did the full extended run, reloading my last save and everything.

I started a Neutral run later, but I haven’t even completed it yet.

Edit: I just googled it. You have to view the neutral ending once, which you get at the end of the Pacifist run before reloading. You do not need to do a full Neutral run.

WtfEvenIsExistence, do gaming w Just completed Undertale for the first time, this truly is something special.

Great game, sadly I never played it because I watched it through Jacksepticeye and by the time I decided to play, I’ve already finish watching his series. Can’t really enjoy a story driven game when you’ve already watched it.

Edit: If you already finished, I really recommend watching Jacksepticeye’s playthrough if you are into watching gameplays.

laffytaffer,

I was in the same situation but with Ross and Barry playing through it on Game Grumps. Even without playing it myself though, the game is truly something special.

TwilightKiddy,

Did they play through genocide? If not, then you can play it yourself for an extra bit of content and the banger music it provides.

WtfEvenIsExistence,

Yes, Jacksepticeye did play the Genocide. Honestly, his reaction is quite funny to watch. I highly recommend his channel. (Not sponsored, just a very devoted fan 😅) Very wholesome Irish lad btw, so far I’ve not seen even one controversy. He’ve also showed support of LGBT+ community so I feel very good watching his channel.

Roundcat, do gaming w Just completed Undertale for the first time, this truly is something special.
@Roundcat@kbin.social avatar

I'm glad you finally got a chance to play it. I played it back in 2020, and it was the kind of game I needed to get me through those times.

I've been enjoying Deltarune too. I can't wait for the game to be finished.

JaxiiRuff, do gaming w Just completed Undertale for the first time, this truly is something special.
@JaxiiRuff@pawb.social avatar

Definitely play Deltarune. I like Undertale but Deltarune, especially chapter 2, was insanely good for being free.

domi,
@domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

Can you play the first two chapters without ending at a cliffhanger? Have been thinking if I should wait for all of it to release or play the free chapters now.

JaxiiRuff,
@JaxiiRuff@pawb.social avatar

Up to you, though from the last info we got it seems like things are moving along nicely development wise. The full game should be done by later next year I feel.

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