Pulp,

But do you? I can still see them, using xManager.

Mothra,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

I’ve seen xManager and couldn’t convince myself to install it. Do you need a Spotify account? Does it let you create playlists as you wish?

Pulp,

Yes for both.

yoz,

Why don’t you guys torrent ? I am back to torrenting and its the best.

Pulp,

Have fun

Psythik, (edited )

Because direct downloads are better and faster.

slavart.gamesdrive.net
free-mp3-download.net (don’t use apostrophes in the search for this one)

You’re welcome.

Edit: Also, Real-Debrid if you want to directly download any torrent instantly at your connection’s maximum bandwidth (up to 1Gbps) without having to wait for seeds. But this one costs money. (It’s worth it, though, especially if you’re downloading a lot of 50GB+ AAA games like I am.)

yoz,

How do we use real-debrid ? I don’t understand it.

Psythik,

Simple, you replace your torrent client with it. Instead of opening a torrent file in QBittorrent or whatever, you go to the “torrents” section and paste the magnet link/open your torrent file there. Then select “convert” and then you can download the torrent directly from their servers. It’s kind of like a seedbox that everyone shares, so that you don’t have to wait for seeds so long as at least one person has added the file to Debrid before.

Select the “premium offers” link to get started.

yoz,

Cheers mate

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

BRUH

Zoldyck,

I pay them for other reasons.

yoz,

Lol you guys pay for premium?

Pulp,

Make the record labels rich so that they can sue and bully people thank you!

stagen,
@stagen@feddit.dk avatar

I’ve never used the free tier on Spotify and I don’t understand how anyone can. The ads alone would make me throw off my headset in disgust. So yeah, not going to affect me, and I do enjoy reading the lyrics a lot.

That said, I am experimenting with swapping over to Apple Music because I feel Spotify has become too expensive.

satanicleftist,

I recently flipped to apple music and apart from seeing a few songs missing on albums i don’t really listen to anyway, it’s only been an improvement. the lossless audio is quite nice

bblfrnz,

The ads alone would make me throw off my headset in disgust.

For a mobile, there is a modded apk,I’ve never heard ads there. For a PC, web player in Firefox with uBlock Origin, there are no ads at all there. The same goes for Tidal, I’ve never paid for these apps.

happyhippo,

Doesn’t solve the offline mode/taking a 13 hour flight use case, unfortunately.

bblfrnz,

Well, that’s very specific case to be honest. In that case you can just download whatever you want beforehand, from soulseek, for instance. Generally people make preparations in advance for such things.

evranch,

Zotify works very well at downloading Spotify lists, from playlists to whole discographies. You have to sort the output a little as you’ll often get multiple copies of tracks due to remastered editions, songs released as singles etc. But overall it’s an incredibly easy way to download music.

hunt4peas, (edited )

lemmy.ml/comment/3223099For both PC and Android.

bblfrnz,
  1. spotx - well, I tried, but honestly, I don’t need one more app especially when everything works in the browser. Plus, I prefer portable setups and there’s no portable version of spotx, so, it’s pretty useless for me.
  2. It’s explicitly said on the Spowlo GitHub page that they use YouTube for downloading, so, there’s no way to get 320 kbps tracks or flacs. Instead, I’d recommend to try some Qobuz/Deezer-based solutions, there are quite a few of them there. Or use slavart or something like this, or good old soulseek, there’s even an Android client for it.
hunt4peas,

Does it convert them to 320kbps when I choose that quality? Because when I play those downloaded songs, it indeed shows as 320kbps.

bblfrnz,

That’s the question, because as far as I know, the highest ytmusic quality is 256 kbps. I would avoid using it

stagen,
@stagen@feddit.dk avatar

I use an iPhone though and I’d prefer not to use YouTube for music, or anything, really.

bblfrnz,

Oh man, you shouldn’t be using iphone in the first place, the most useless device piracy-wise.

stagen,
@stagen@feddit.dk avatar

This isn’t an issue about piracy anyway.

Whirlybird,

Most people don’t pirate stuff on their phones. I use an iPhone and my hundreds of gigabytes of pirated stuff is available on my iPhone via plexamp/plex/etc.

Blackmist,

The ads aren’t even for anything. It was just really patronising ads for Spotify Premium.

Their business model is genuinely to just annoy you into paying.

DreadPotato, (edited )

It only annoyed me into stopping using their service

LufyCZ,

You either pay or you leave. Spotify wins, in both cases

bonfire921,

OR you get an adblocker

Zitronensaft,

They were so much more expensive than Pandora when I tried them out and the free tier was too awful to want to reward them with my money, so I did pay but it went to a competitor. Their music recommendations were terrible compared to Pandora, too.

I don’t use Pandora now though, they got bought by SiriusXM who I will never pay again after they made cancelation such a difficult process.

cyberpunk007,

Spotify gives me ads and when I complain they tell me they’re not ads and that they’re offers lol. My only complaint.

rockhandle,
@rockhandle@lemm.ee avatar

With xManager, the free tier comes quite close to premium. No ads, play whatever music you like. The only issues are lower sound quality & no downloads, which are really non-issues since you can just find other sources to download the music from, at flac quality

BelieveRevolt,

The funniest thing to ask money for. Just have genius.com open or stream the song on YouTube, the lyrics are probably in the description or at the very least the comments.

Pulp,

Just google them

ThePenitentOne,

Anything to encourage even a single person to spend more money. It’s just sad, really.

balderdash9,

Is there an easy way to download tons of music without paying for a shit ton of albums?

Icalasari,

You can probably whip up a .bat file to download entire albums worth of music from YouTube and other sites

Pulp,

Deemix, yt-dlp

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

Lidarr

technologicalcaveman,

I've been using Qobuz. Sure it's still paid, but I can buy downloads for any of the music on there. Same with Bandcamp. I've been buying one album every paycheck and putting them on my storage blocks, then putting them on my media player and phone. I support my favorite bands, and get to keep something in return. On top of all this, I hunt down CDs. I've got a massive physical music collection, and it's nice.

kworpy,

I just love watching everyone freak out about Spotify’s shitty business practices while I’m casually looping YouTube videos with an adblocker.

DaDragon,

Eh, I switched to Spotify last year (++, of course) and there’s a lot to be said in favour of the Spotify algorithm when it comes to music recommendations, as opposed to YouTube.

abbadon420,

This. You get actual bang for your buck

UrPartnerInCrime,
@UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works avatar

Anyone who uses spotify just to listen to their own music isn’t using spotify correctly.

SexualPolytope,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I do. While I get your point, I mostly use it so that I don’t have to maintain my own music library. But maybe I should try switching to something like Navidrome.

UrPartnerInCrime,
@UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works avatar

Have you checked out the made for you playlists? The Monday discover and Friday new music playlists have been key in how I find music the past like 10 years.

SexualPolytope, (edited )
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

They don’t really work for me. I listen to different genres, different languages. Sometimes I only like a single song from an artist. My taste is weird. I usually discover new music organically through friends, or sometimes I’ll hear something playing somewhere and stuff.

To me, it seems like the Spotify algorithm has a heavy bias towards newer songs, and also towards English songs. Both of those are a minority in my playlists, but somehow that’s all it recommends me.

Pulp,

I have gotten good recommendations from both but of course Spotify more often

Pleat1752,

Spotify algorithm pushes artists that pay them to push them to you. Get your recommendations via more organic means if you can. That means blogs, real people. Screw the spotify recommendation slop (and I say this as someone who has spotify premium.)

crab, (edited )

YouTube sound quality is poor, and 99% of your bandwidth being devoted to video is wasteful. Just use SoundCloud or something. Better yet revanced patched YT music or xmanager Spotify.

Edit: or better yet vimusic

Rai,

I finally got a sub to Apple Music when I learned I get lossless by default. Yummmmmm.

I still hoard flacs, but Apple Music is dope.

crab,

Waiting for Spotify lossless to ditch flacs, I really want to like Tidal but I’ve had major issues every time I try and stick with it.

Rai,

Spotify capping out at 192 was a nope for me hahaha. Someone on Lemmy mentioned AppMus had hi-rez lossless and regular lossless and I was like “yep done”

I don’t like iTunes though, so on my computers it’s still flac o’clock.

Neve8028,

Spotify runs at 320kbps AAC which is totally fine quality-wise.

totallynotfbi,

YouTube’s sound quality is comparable to Spotify’s - IIRC it’s 128kbps AAC versus 160kbps MP3. Also, a static video’s bitrate is around 300-400kbps, so you’re not wasting that much bandwidth

Chewy7324,

YouTube supports 160kbps opus, which should be pretty much transparent to our ears. But the audio is reencoded in the uploaded video, which then gets reencoded by YT again.

These multiple lossy reencodes are probably why YouTube audio sounds worse then Spotiy. Artists upload there songs as lossless wav/flac, which the gets reencoded/compressed a single time.

totallynotfbi,

Didn’t know that YouTube had 160kbps audio… I checked a auto-generated upload on yt-dlp, and while it had an Opus stream, all of the audio streams were encoded at 128kbps.

Both Opus and properly-encoded AAC audio should be virtually indistinguishable from the original source, but I do believe that Opus performs slightly worse in blind ABX testing. Again, you’d barely be able to tell the difference, so sound quality is basically the same.

(As for encoding, I believe that YouTube uses the source audio if it’s already encoded as AAC, which most video editors do by default, and music distributors send the same lossless source to YouTube as they do to Spotify, so I don’t think re-encoding will make a difference)

N1cknamed,
@N1cknamed@feddit.nl avatar

Spotify has 320kbps.

totallynotfbi,

For the paid tier, yes, but the free tier is locked to 160

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

There are some add-ons that turn off the video to avoid wasting energy.

DrQuint,

But they still waste the bandwidth. The YouTube music either premium or revanced is still the “most economical” way.

oce,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

I’m not sure if the bandwidth is wasted or not with those add-ons.

cambriakilgannon,

ublock origin blocks spotify ads well. I have found a lot of new artists using spotify, I avoided it for a pretty long time. When I find artists I like I usually buy their stuff on bandcamp cause i can get flacs

UlyssesT,

Rent seeking intensifies capitalist-laugh

mounderfod,
@mounderfod@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Soulseek is still around ;)

lckdscl,
@lckdscl@whiskers.bim.boats avatar

slsk forever

Pulp,

Failed me

aaaaaaadjsf,
@aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net avatar

Third party apps for Spotify is definitely the way to go if you don’t have premium.

vikinghoarder,

What are those?

Xy_lemmy,

Xmanager for android. For other platforms you can checkout Spotx

Colorcodedresistor,

Bring back Winamp.

anyone else remember that old ass redditor who made the website “onlythebestof” or something along those lines. those were better days .

Fleppensteijn,
@Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl avatar

Look for QMMP, a Winamp clone.

iHUNTcriminals,

Yeah, but does it whip the llamas ass?

Pulp,

Check the year

Blizzard,

To be fair, Spotify is unsuable without premium.

Kir, (edited )
@Kir@feddit.it avatar

Spotify is unusable without premium Xmanager

JCreazy,

Is what someone would say if they didn’t know any better.

MaggiWuerze,

Using Spotify without premium, as Spotify offers it, is unusable. There might be other options than paying, but the vanilla Spotify experience is horrendous

JCreazy,

That’s fair

Pixelologist,
@Pixelologist@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Jokes on you, I already memorized them all

superfes,

You say that like you can listen to the lyrics instead…

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

You say that like there aren't thousands of songs with unintelligibly fast singing... lol

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