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atomicfox, w Critical support for the Lemmy world peeps in their fight against pro-intellectual property nerds

Ha, what a loser. Artists don’t deserve to be paid for their work.

doom_and_gloom,
@doom_and_gloom@lemmy.ml avatar

My prime motive for piracy! The current model is exploitative of the artists and must be ushered quickly to its own defeat.

They shouldn’t have to strike until they lose their houses like so many do now. Every year they receive less and less of the profit of their work (and its certainly not because of any excess going to those in need). It’s a shame and an embarrassment on society.

Hubi, w Official Statement from Lemmy.world admin about community removal

Honestly, I don’t blame them one bit. People need to keep in mind that these instances and sites are provided for free by private individuals and not large companies with armies of lawyers. I wouldn’t want to fight a potential lawsuit for “enabling piracy”, no matter how much bullshit it is. If the admins of dbzer0 have taken the necessary precautions, great! Just join their instance if that’s what you’re looking for.

crowsby, w Official Statement from Lemmy.world admin about community removal
@crowsby@kbin.social avatar

I see we've unfortunately brought over the trend of defaulting to assuming the worst intentions from Reddit, with a side portion of baseless accusations. While I'm disappointed that the community was removed, I think it can be easily explained by:

  • Speed Run the Content Moderation Learning Curve
  • The reality that, right or wrong, any significant legal action brought against them would be game over for the instance and personally devastating for the humans involved. Conde Nast they are not, and if Joe SIIA decides to put them in their crosshairs, the legal situation would be financially devastating.

It's reaaaaaally really easy to sit in the peanut gallery and talk shit about how they're cowardly acquiescing when it's not our neck in the noose.

That being said, I feel like recent acts of defederation are only serving to highlight that the way forward in the fediverse is going to be having accounts on multiple instances in order to get the full breadth of offerings. In my case:

  • I initially signed up on lemmy.ml since that was, at the time the "main" instance.
  • Oh hey, kbin looks cool. I'll sign up there and check it out.
  • Oh hey, people are saying that the lemmy.ml admins are evil commies or some shit. Welp I better make an account on lemmy.world in case anything goes sideways.
  • Oh hey, now I'm probably going to also need an account on dbzer0 as well, dope.
sab,
@sab@kbin.social avatar

It honestly makes a lot of sense to keep illegal content that's the source of frequent legal actions away from the largest general purpose communities. As you correctly point out it is extremely easy to join another instance where these discussions are allowed, and the larger instances have every reason to have a "better safe than sorry" approach to content moderation.

It seems to me the Threadiverse is too negative of the concept of defederation. It's a key concept of how the Fediverse works, and is supposed to work. The people on Lemmygrad is looking for a completely different experience from the folks over at Beehaw, so let them have it. Lemmy.world has become the largest instance, so naturally they need to have an approach to content moderation that is unlikely to land them in legal trouble. And even if they didn't, they'd be welcome to block discussions of piracy out of moral conviction or any other reason, just as their users are welcome to sign up somewhere else if they are looking for a different experience.

There was drama about defederation on Mastodon in the beginning as well, but I guess people coming from Twitter had an easier time intuitively understanding the appeal of it.

safesyrup, w How to *not* get ratted whilst cheating in Minecraft

Hey dude, you‘re a cunt!

Landrin201, w Critical support for the Lemmy world peeps in their fight against pro-intellectual property nerds
@Landrin201@lemmy.ml avatar

Corporations when some dude steals a copy of a 30 year old movie: 😡

Corporations when they steal billions from their workers salaries every year: 🤑

argv_minus_one,

Taking money for a 30-year-old movie is pretty much government-assisted stealing, if I’m honest. Copyright in the USA originally had a term of 14 years.

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Here’s the thing: copyright term includes the life of the author plus a fixed period. So the works you and I nobodies produce will eventually become public domain after we die. HOWEVER, and this is just my underatanding of the laws and I’m definitely not a lawyer, not big name IPs because they are not registered under the human author, but a corporation that is both a person under the law and effectively immortal. So even if it’s two thousand years after George Lucas dies, Star Wars will still be copyrighted as long as Disney exists, and even if Disney dies, part of the process of corporate “death” is liquidation where they sell their IPs to the next asshole corporation.

Am I wrong? Please correct me if I am.

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Afaik you are not correct. Copyrights for a corporation also have an expiration date.

Except – The expiration date can be extended by just continuing to use the IP – Ever wondered why movies get remakes/reimaginings every 30 years or so? We meme about them being “Out of ideas”, but really it’s so they can hold down their copyright.

sndmn, w Games

Have you tried looking under large rocks?

buckykat, w How to *not* get ratted whilst cheating in Minecraft

What the hell is cheating in Minecraft? Isn’t that like cheating in Lego? You can just make a server with whatever setting and mods you want.

melmi,
@melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

People like to cheat on community servers so they can own those kids at bed wars or whatever. It’s not the same to mod your own server, because then you’re not exerting “power” over other people.

buckykat,

I see, OP is just a douchebag.

themagzuz,
@themagzuz@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

not necessarily. there are servers with no rules, like 2b2t where hacking is pretty much required because everyone else does so. interestingly, this means that the pvp actually loops back to being really deep and complex

buckykat,

Why then would OP be concerned about being caught?

themagzuz,
@themagzuz@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

getting ratted isn’t getting caught. a RAT is a remote access tool, which is commonly included as a trojan in order to give a hacker remote control of a victims pc

Captain_Red, w (LINUX USER)What VPNs would you lovely people recommend?

Mullvad. The others have horrible apps on Linux.

lud,

Mullvad doesn’t support port forwarding anymore. I use airvpn and you can just use the native WireGuard (or OpenVPN if you’r crazy) apps on different platforms if you want.

AltF4, w Official Statement from Lemmy.world admin about community removal

To everyone ready with their pitchforks, here is a scenario: lemmy.world may receive a court order (subpoena?) mandating they disclose data on people actively accessing pirate communities. As it happened with Reddit, they may ask for logs and IP addresses of people commenting, posting or perhaps even up/down voting content.

Even though none of the content is being posted/hosted with this instance, admins may be asked to betray user trust - or to go battle claimants in court. It’s a lose-lose for them, so maybe let’s cut them some slack, eh?

Marxine, w Running With Scissors Studios gives permission to pirate games
@Marxine@lemmy.ml avatar

So damn based. Makes me NOT wanna pirate their games. Hell, I’d even purchase even if I wouldn’t play it (if I could rn, but currently I’ve got hefty cat veterinary bills to pay).

Edit: OH MATE! THEY’RE THE POSTAL STUDIO! Goddamn I played it so damn much in my early teens. Goddamn I gotta pay my bills faster!

Cris_Color, w Critical support for the Lemmy world peeps in their fight against pro-intellectual property nerds

I genuinely do understand concerns about legal issues and the risk of facilitating illegal activities- but its not even hosted on their instance, why would it mater that the communities EXIST. They’re literally hosted by someone else…?

CapillaryUpgrade,

But it is hosted on your home server.

When you subscribe to a community, your home server downloads the content and passes it on to you.

This is not like when The Pirate Bay was allowed to live because it only hosted torrent files and not copyrighted content, in the fediverse, you copy the content to your own server, and pass it on to the client/user, which means hosting the content.

EmperorHenry, w Critical support for the Lemmy world peeps in their fight against pro-intellectual property nerds
@EmperorHenry@sh.itjust.works avatar

I bet that person was the kid in class that always snitched and reminded the teachers to assign homework

The kind of person who became hall monitor and let it go to their head really fast

The kind of loser that becomes a cop just for the ability to boss people around

noctisatrae, w How to *not* get ratted whilst cheating in Minecraft

Playing like a cheater is fun in anarchy servers because every does it and it creates a new way of playing.

But cheating on servers not made for that, you’re a cunt.

KrimsonBun, w (LINUX USER)What VPNs would you lovely people recommend?
@KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml avatar

Mullvad!

Im1Random,

What about the removal of port forwarding?

Lummy, w It would appear lemmy.world has blocked this community

I was on Lemmy World too, but lately they’ve started to restrict more and more. Restricting access to piracy was my limit

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