I totally understand that it’s the kind of thing where if you get it, you get it and if you don’t, you don’t and that’s 100% fine.
But to simply call these just fidget toys is very reductionist. They’re a hobby, just like anything else. You work at it and you build new skills, new tricks, etc. You can’t just use it right out of the box without spending a decent amount of time practicing
Do you see a yo-yo or kendama as ‘fidget toys’ similarly? If so then at least you’re being consistent, but if you see that as a skill based hobby then you should try to reframe begleri into that category as well. It’s essentially a yo-yo on a smaller scale
I personally don’t see the point in spending 1-2k on a set of golf clubs, but I don’t knock people for doing so - it’s their hobby. Whilst I can’t imagine spending ~400 on a watch, I have spent that amount for a fountain pen. Some people invest loads of money working on their car to be super cool, when someone else may look at that and think ‘and my car also gets me where I’m going at the cheaper base model’.
Everyone has an interest that someone else would likely deem ‘a waste of money’, and that person in turn almost certainly has a similar hobby that will be judged.
I try not to yuck other peoples yum. If it makes them happy and it’s not hurting anyone else, that’s what matters, that’s a positive thing
Lmaoooo no one? I’m just trying to get people to be a little more open minded and maybe make this community a little more welcoming to people who carry more than the basic ‘keys wallet knife’ template
@loudWaterEnjoyer@wren A lot of people have been asking about the skill toys and wren has already answered what they are for many times. I think wren's assuming that the person who said "all for a fidget toy" has already read the other messages and is just being disingenuous.
Thank you - that’s absolutely it, which is why I’m not engaging with the other comments on this anymore, because it just feels like feeding the trolls at this point. I thought I was being quite polite and respectful in my response above. I have a lot of patience for people that don’t get it - but not a lot for intentional closed-mindedness. I’m trying to help make this place a more positive and welcoming community, that’s all. The EDC community here on Lemmy is too small to already start with the gatekeeping, it won’t do anyone any favours to be all ‘post what you carry and consider essentials… but not like that’
Can you explain your use of each item? I don’t mean the obvious ones, such as the pen and Leatherman. I mean the other edc items. They look interesting, but I don’t understand them.
So I’m a very texture based person (diagnosed adhd / generalised anxiety disorder and I suspect a little on the spectrum, but never formally diagnosed) and the three other things besides the leatherman and pen are heavily based around that
The dice (or die, I didn’t actually check before hand) is a nice weight and I like the feeling of rolling it between my thumb and index finger, and the two beads on each side are a phenomenal feeling bead to roll similarly. I like the contrast between the smooth SS beads and the sharper edges of the dice. Plus there’s something comforting in knowing I always have at least one die on me at all times (even though I keep a set of 6 mini dice on me in my pouch)
The bracelet looking thing, which is in fact a bracelet as well, is an mkultra from aroundsquare. Similarly as before, the texture and feeling of the beads is fantastic, with the added bonus of being able to wrap around my thumb a few times. That combined with them being good for bead counting / breath work, it’s very calming for me. It can also be used as a fidget / skill toy: see this video for a good intro
The beads on the paracord is a skill toy called begleri, and it’s just that: a skill toy. Video here. It’s a hobby, it’s something to constantly work at improving on and learn new tricks, it’s a way to keep busy, it’s a good way to pass the time instead of looking at my phone - there’s a lot of reasons why I refuse to go anywhere without a set with me. The begleri community is so wholesome and supportive too, which just makes it better
Neat! Ok! A different kind of EDC. That video on the begleri, I kept waiting for him to smack his face with it, since that’s exactly what I would end up doing hahaha! He didn’t though, which was good.
Is the dice bead also a sort of begleri or just tactile? Also can you recommend begleri communities? I tried to learn awhile ago and not much traction on my own. Not much on YouTube from what I saw.
The dice bead is just tactile. It could be used as a begleri if I had another one and set them up as one, but it would probably be too heavy - at least for my play preference
On Lemmy, sadly there’s not too many yet. I’m personally working on getting !idlehands (general skill toy and fidget community) and !begleri going, and there’s also !begleri
I mainly participate on Instagram, since that seems to have the most contributors begleri community wise. I can link awesome people to follow, if you’re on instagram
There’s a few Discord servers that are active too, a begleri one and an Aroundaquare one. I can get you links later on if you like
In terms of resources for learning:
begleritricks.com has a lot of tutorials, trick database, and trick index, plus a good intro on vernacular
TGP posts a lot of good begleri videos, though he doesn’t go super into them as a tutorial, but it’s good for quickly seeing a lot of different tricks for inspiration
And as much as I hate to link it, the begleri subreddit does have some good info too
I got my first set in 2018, and stopped for a bit because I wasn’t really getting anywhere with it. For me what made a difference when I picked it back up again in 2021 was trying different physical combinations: bead shapes and weights, cord diameters, joiner lengths, etc. as well as finding a few clips online and downloading it to my phone so I could put it in slow motion and try to replicate it. It’s also a lot easier to learn if you’re just sat on a bed or carpeted floor or something similar. With dropping it, you’re just right there it’s a lot less frustrating when you don’t have to crouch down every two seconds to try again and it’s a lot easier to adjust the timing and whatnot when the attempts are closer together - I think I learnt at least half of the tricks I know being sat outside on the grass during a nice day. I would also recommend just having a set with you and doing rebounds when you have a chance, because getting a feel for how the momentum is carried will really help with getting the timing for other tricks
Thanks for the detailed reply! I’m familiar with Musclebones and Aroundsquare, but the others I’ll have to dig into. I made my own set awhile back with some hex nuts, I wanted to level it up with some nicer beads but didn’t find anything locally. I’ll probably wind up ordering some kind of bead online. I have trouble consciensing buying something that seems like it could be made so easily haha. I’ll check out those communities too. Thanks again!
Yeah a lot of people love their homemade ones, and I’ve made a few myself, but at least for me the beads specifically designed for begleri are worlds better. I feel like it’s easier to make a really nice set when you already know what your bead shape, size, and weight preference is - if that makes sense
Aha yeah I know AO2 can be a little pricy, though they do have some great ones in the cheaper range: the Mini Hydras in SS/Delrin being one of them, which are $20. Great starter set, but it’s also impossible to outgrow them, pros. use them still. The weight (18g) is basically the goldilocks weight for most people, the bead shape is excellent
You probably could get a pair from amazon or ebay for like $15 that would serve you well, but I’ve found those to be either way too light or way too heavy and the beads just kinda feel… shitty, and they might even be unbalanced because quality control is nonexistent.
I don’t mean to sound like an aroundsquare shill, I just do genuinely love their products and the owner, Matt, is one of the coolest guys ever
Hey different strokes for different folks, by your perspective sure they’re not essentials, but I personally find these to be essentials. I’ve literally not gone a day without these since I’ve gotten them, because they help me with my anxiety and adhd- but if you don’t suffer from that I’m so glad for you
@pineapplelover@Steamymoomilk These days, stuff made in China runs the gamut from sweatshop to well paid labour and from crappy clones to very premium manufacturing.
If a company talks about their work environment and prides themselves on it, the labour might be fair. I wouldn't trust this messaging from someone like Nike though.
I almost always find myself using a full arms’ span of cord, which for me is around 5.5 feet, so I generally carry two of that length, one wrapped up, and one in a loop with a diamond knot, which I find convenient in place of a carabiner.
I’ve used it once to try to recover something stuck in a tree 😅 The length is quite long for some uses but perfect for hojojutsu. I also used to carry a shorter length in the form of a keychain for more mundane uses.
Maxpedition Urban Assault maybe? Maxpedition’s prepared citizen bags are interesting too, basically a jansport with bombproof fabrics.
Osprey, Deuter and similar have good bags too but aren’t custom built for carry. Looks normal because they are, and can be surprisingly durable while also being light.
Velcro is out but how about molle loops? Leaning more tacticool for the features and materials or are you looking to be more colorful and inconspicuous?
What’s the utility of the key case? I think that having keys just on a keyring allows them to more comfortably spread inside the pocket. Never had one, so I’m curious if that’s an aesthetic/security or convenience tool
Just looked up the key case, I kind of like it. The problem for me is always the car key. Modern cars seem to have these giant keys, and I keep them in a jean key pocket, so something has to give.
@Vej I would look at the Vertx Gamut backpack! I'm not a fan of this American company that tries to act all macho and patriotic while manufacturing their stuff who knows where, because they just say "imported". Instead of "Made in China" or "This is our partner factory in Vietnam at this specific address".
You're not gonna find a CCW bag without Velcro to be honest, that's how you attach the holster. But the gamut seems easy to clean out and none of the Velcro is exposed to the exterior
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