As a long time Plex uset who loves the ease of use of Plex, is it for me? Also there probably aren’t apps on that many devices? My main concern is Android TV and the Tizen thing by Samsung.
The advantages ofjellyfin are mainly its open source nature, and lack of needing to pay to unlock features such as downloads. It may be a little more effort to set up but still isn’t too difficult. Once set up, it works pretty much flawlessly, except for the occasional hiccup which can be resolved pretty easily.
It has an official app available for android TV, which is in the store, and as for Tizen OS, there is an official app (on their github), however it is somewhat more difficult to install from what i’ve seen.
yeah, i switched over to jellyfin from plex after i hit a paywall on plex. They wanted me to pay to watch my 4k mission impossible (1996) movie. Afterwards, i’m like “fuck nah,” literally the reason why i torrent was to not pay for shizzle
It lacks some of the functions found in plex, most notably the sync feature. That being said, it’s still a very good free alternative to plex. It does run on android tv
Android is no problem at all, Tizen however is a mistake I will never do again. I have a MU7000 samsung TV (2017 model), it has plex (came free in its store) but no emby (emby is another option that is mostly open source) or jellyfin (Emby fork that is fully open source). I had an Intel NUC5 celeron based that acted as a server, the cpu was pretty efficient (6w) but it was not powerful enough for transcoding (converting the video to something the tv can play)
My experience with my Samsung TV.
Plex: Can direct play almost anything (stream to the tv without converting the video). I’m a non-native english japanese anime fan who needs subtitles all the time. The problem is that plex will turn to transcoding if subtitles are on and my server was not powerful enough to handle fluent transcoded stream.
Emby: it is not in the tizen store (at least for my tv), fortunately the emby team release a tizen binary that can be installed through a USB thumb drive. Now emby works pretty good with and withouth subtitles. It does not have ads (for premium subscription) on android but it does have a once every 24h add in the Tizen version. Not a big deal but just remember you are more likely to be treaded a 2nd class consumer for having a damn Tizen TV.
Jellyfin: Not available on Samsung store, I had to enable devlopper mod on my tv and install Tizen studio with CLI on my pc to compile Jellyfin for my TV, then install it through Tizen CLI only to be surprised by how sluggish it worked, the UI was very unoptimized which is natural as it was not supporting my tv to begin with. Half my remote (samsung one remote black version) did not work so I decided it was not worth it.
I’ve used plex and emby, both are good but plex is easier to setup and share, and has apps everywhere. Emby is a close second, but jellyfin isnt there yet imo, with apps and availability of those apps on everything.
Maybe a dumb question, but how is this better than having your files on a nas? I have a nas and just play my media files from there on my tv and laptop. What do I get from having jellyfin?
Kodi/XBMC has been providing that for like 20 years though…
What jellyfin does provide that Kodi doesn’t is on the fly transcoding for watching on mobile device and remote access. If you don’t need that, Kodi might be a better choice providing a far wider array of features.
You’re not wrong but there are still drawbacks to Kodi where Jellyfin ends up being better. In my use case, with 5 tvs in the house, 2 are hooked up to Nvidia shield tvs but the other 3 are Chromecast w/ Google TV which have very limited storage unless I want to spend a fortune in hubs for each one to add a USB drive or micro SD.
With kodi installed I would regularly hit the storage limit of the device and have all kinds of weird bugs. Just as an example I had my daughter set up with a kids only account, but account switching would cause Kodi to become unresponsive for anywhere from 30 seconds to having to do a hard reset of the device. Jellyfin gives me the same access to my library with a lighter, more streamlined, persistent interface across devices and with easy and fast profiles. It still allows me to keep a pi as the host so the whole setup is low power (important for me as we’re on solar, every watt helps!)
I don’t really need the Kodi plugins I used to have if the main purpose of streaming my local content isn’t smooth and simple for the family. This is coming from a long time XBMC user, I’ve been running it since my original modded Xbox in the early 2000s.
Then you are doing it wrong. I have three instances of Kodi, one of them on completely hard drive less machine booted via PXE, the other two are Pis with minimal is on an SD card. All the media’s are stored on a NAS, and all the metadata is shared between the instances on MySQL, all of it (profiles, views, etc) shared across all the instances.,
“Wrong,” or a matter of preference and willingness to sink time into the project. Your setup sounds great, but it’s also easy enough for me to do a simple apk install for Jellyfin and host it on the pi that already has my network shares vs spending the time setting up a database and a local DHCP server etc. etc. Netboot is great but with a fraction of the setup with Jellyfin my needs were met, which was my original point. Also how many end users will take this route? Realistically not many.
Don’t get me wrong this was something i’d totally be into a decade ago so I get where you’re coming from, love the idea of having the metadata and everything scraped centralized, but what I have works and it’s easyyyyyyyy 🤷♂️
I just recently set up jellyfin as a way for my family to access the stored media outside of my house. Our current Networking setup doesn’t play nicely with VPNs so this was an easy way to do that.
But, Jellyfin/Plex has the advantage you get a nice pretty “app” that works on your TV/Roku/AndroidTV/etc. It handles transcoding if needed, keeps track of what you have watched, and lets you know when new things pop up.
I have a small 1tb collection …love jellyfin and it’s UI but I miss kodi when it comes to scrapping metadata and playing all formats …I use jellyfin mostly because of its ui and because my crappy TV can’t handle kodi very well
Yeah I tried one of them but either way I’d have to follow the jellyfin standards to name the files and have to use kodi to run them …the best way for me would be having kodi to scrape the library no matter how messy it is …and jellyfin would just play it because my TV is garbage and crashes on kodi
How does one get a NAS without spending an arm and leg these days? I started pirating because I was broke, I don’t have triple digits to spend on hardware.
How does one get a NAS without spending an arm and leg these days? I started pirating because I was broke, I don’t have triple digits to spend on hardware.
An old PC with a bunch of hard drives (they shouldn’t be NAS drives necessarily) + TrueNas. The main cost will be the hard drives which is about 20$/TB
You can get WD Red Pro’s on sale twice a year for $16/TB.
Further you can order unused data center and enterprise drives for anything from $11-$16/TB and those things are built to take way more use and abuse than home users can throw at them.
I would not pay above $17/TB for traditional magnetic spinning disk storage.
That’s like incredibly less than what I have been able to find. Where exactly would they be on sale for that cheap?
Don’t want to buy used since you never know when they will go south on you
Beware MDD at the top is alleged to sell drives they’ve refurbished which are essentially used but with wiped smart. Other cheap deals… check sellers. If it’s not sold and shipped by Amazon it could be slightly used drives (usually third party sellers do a mix so some people get brand new, others not so much). Also beware third party sellers and Amazon itself often sell OEM drives without warranty. I always check the serials online before opening the anti-static bag to make sure it’s in warranty.
Also: shucks.top
You need to wait and watch for the good deals but they come around multiple times a year.
Also, understand there are certain storage ranges to get these prices. Generally 8-18TB drives are best deals per TB. You pay a premium for 20-22 top size drives as well as for smaller drives like 2-4TB. 14TB seems to be the current sweet spot most of the time.
Lastly. Understand SMR drives are alright for backups but not ideal for streaming high bitrate content from or using to seed files. CMR is better.
Looking up technical specs for the drive it’s often mentioned on data sheets (often as conventional magnetic recording drive or else shingled if SMR). Other than that third parties have compiled lists and many but not all Amazon pages in tech specs mention it if you look closely. Try searching drive-model and cmr and then smr and see what comes up. Beware some drive families different sizes of drive may be cmr vs smr. WD red pro and ultra star DC line are all CMR, WD blues many are SMR. WD black as far as I know are all CMR. WD red (non-pro) can be SMR I believe.
I’ll be honest, the real difference is getting a 7200 vs 5400 RPM drive, particularly one with a larger cache, I’d always go for 7200 except for purely offline backup stuff.
In terms of external drives and shucking, it’s largely a crapshoot. You can try searching what drives others found in a model, however they’re subject to change.
Bottom line: If money is tight and it’s just you, you can absolutely do SMR and 5400 RPM external drives and have a smooth experience as long as we’re talking re-encodes not raw Blu-ray remuxes (I have seen an external 5400RPM SMR drive choke and fail trying to smoothly play a file at 24MB/s bitrate but it worked fine with 10MB/s re-encodes, even those with burst rates of 17MB/s). If you can afford a bit more try to go 7200 and CMR.
You can even start with an old laptop and external drives. Plenty of people shuck them anyway, so you’re not exactly overpaying. They’ll just be a bit slow. But if you’re mostly planning on streaming video that doesn’t matter too much.
If you do have a little to spend, you can do a ‘naskiller’ build. Just search for it and pick one. Basically some people put together lists of cheap, reliable used hardware you can get to build a pretty great nas, with different flavors. ‘Quiet’ ‘fast’ ‘compact’. I built one and went all out. I think it was about 600 bucks without the drives. Build up from there.
I use a mini-PC and as many of these drive stations as needed: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WR9N3KWI started with HDD’s but SSD’s work much better with those stations. Bonus: Those guys can clone drives without a computer or anything.
There’s a large possibility that your kids will be apathetic towards the media that you watch now. When’s the last time you listened to a song or watched tv from the 50?
(I can hear you typing right now; yes, I myself even watch the Adams Family and listen to psychedelic rock every now and again, but that’s not typical.)
I have every single mainstream animated project that has been made for the last 60 years. I like to think that if I were ever in a Blast-From-The-Past type of situation, I’d be able to watch fresh content for the entire 20 years.
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