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BruceTwarzen, w Cyberpunk 2077 2.0's revamped police force is finally good enough

Only took 3 years.

nickwitha_k, (edited ) w Bethesda: Thank you to more than 10 million Starfield explorers for creating the biggest launch in Bethesda history

Would be more, if it wasn’t an exclusive.

EDIT: To clarify, all of the console exclusivity is absolute bullshit and does nothing positive for those who enjoy games, nor does it serve any necessary purpose - it’s just a weapon for businesses to use against each other.

lustyargonian,

Definitely, though it can be said for every exclusive game.

nickwitha_k,

Agreed. Exclusives are complete bullshit, regardless of vendor.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

God of War. Spiderman. Horizon. Last of Us. Ghost of Tsushima. Bloodborne. Uncharted. Ratchet and Clank. Death Stranding. Grand Turismo. Persona.

nickwitha_k,

Add Final Fantasy. Would also have more if they weren’t exclusive.

kmkz_ninja,

Spite always creates a better system.

pory, (edited )
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not an exclusive, it’s just not on Playstation or Switch. When did people decide PC releases didn’t count?

nickwitha_k,

Generally, “exclusive” in this context is referring to exclusivity on a console involved in the (IMO completely unnecessary) console wars.

I do agree that PC is an important item there too but, the problems there are a bit different - for example shoddy ports (no justification for porting from x86/amd64 consoles to PC to be bad), excessive and intrusive DRM, and unreasonable delay or unwillingness to port.

CaptainEffort,

Windows is made by Microsoft. Would you feel better if people called Starfield a “Microsoft exclusive”?

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

Linux runs Starfield with no problems. If it’s on a computer and doesn’t use restrictive DRM to control how and under which circumstances you run the software, it’s not an exclusive. Microsoft doesn’t have exclusives anymore, which is a giant pro-consumer move that doesn’t get enough applause in the gaming community. That doesn’t mean they need to develop stuff for one specific DRM box owned by their biggest competitor to be “anti-exclusive”.

CaptainEffort,

Linux only runs it through a translation layer, Proton, it doesn’t run it natively.

Would you also not call Pokémon an exclusive just because technically it can run on a pc?

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

Pokémon is an exclusive because you have to pirate it / break the console’s DRM to play it on PC. Also, Proton and Wine are explicitly not emulators - that’s actually what WINE stands for (Wine Is Not an Emulator). Starfield is natively available for more than one platform and not only does the Proton compatibility layer handle it but it’s being sold on Valve’s store and the top played game on the completely Windows-free Deck. Games that are released on one console and PC aren’t exclusives. God of War just isn’t on xbox and Starfield just isn’t on Playstation.

Do you need to buy a console to play it legally? If no, it’s not a game exclusive to that console. I have a PC. I can’t play exclusives like Demons Souls Remake without buying Sony’s $500 DRM machine. I can play non-exclusives like Starfield without buying Microsoft’s $300 DRM machine.

CaptainEffort,

Pokémon is an exclusive because you have to pirate it / break the console’s DRM to play it on PC

Ummm… what? Lmao according to who? Can you find me a single definition of “exclusive” anywhere that bars games that were acquired through broken drm? That’s so bizarrely specific, it could only be made by someone deadset on not being wrong in an internet argument ffs.

Also, Proton and Wine are explicitly not emulators

I literally called it a translation layer above, please read. My point is that Starfield isn’t native to Linux, just as Pokemon isn’t native to Windows. Saying that somehow one retains its exclusivity status while the other doesn’t despite this is a little silly.

and the top played game on the completely Windows-free Deck

And Pokémon is widely run on Windows as well. Still an exclusive though.

Do you need to buy a console to play it legally? If no, it’s not a game exclusive to that console.

Again, according to who? This is a very specific definition that nobody has ever used until just now.

So like, if someone managed to rip a PS5 disc and play it through an emulator, it wouldn’t be an exclusive because they didn’t actually need to purchase a PS5? But if they acquired the game through dumping it off of a modded PS5, then it’s still an exclusive? This is so convoluted.

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

I said Pokémon is an exclusive because it’s not released on other platforms. Bloodborne would still be a PS4 exclusive if an emulator could run it.

CaptainEffort,

You said having to own the console is what makes it an exclusive. But I can get a game running on Windows without a console.

Starfield isn’t on Linux, just as Pokémon isn’t on Windows.

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

There’s no such thing as a “Linux PC” though. A PC is a PC. Your PC can run Starfield with proton, or it can run it by installing windows, or it can run it by putting it in a windows VM.

Even if a game can only run on Windows and Xbox (say one of those GAAS shits that has invasive anti cheat), that’s not an exclusive either. It runs on more than one platform. There’s a developer endorsed way to buy the product on more than one platform. Exclusive means one platform - you can’t buy and play the game unless you own one specific device.

CaptainEffort,

What matters is the OS.

Xbox can run Linux, and therefore Proton. Would you say that Spider-man is on Xbox because of that? Obviously not, that’d be exceedingly stupid.

Chewbacca48, w Microsoft’s Phil Spencer says acquiring Nintendo would be ‘a career moment’

Lol, keep dreaming Microsoft :P

spacecowboy, w Meta is shutting down three Oculus games without explanation

Meta is a cancer on society and nobody should touch anything it produces with a 10 foot pole.

Sanctus, w Spider-Man 2 will let you bump into the other Spider-Man
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

It’d be pretty cool co-op too.

NOT_RICK, (edited ) w Microsoft's next-generation Xbox pitched as a "cloud hybrid" console
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Adorably all digital

Adorable, really?

MentalEdge, w Meta is shutting down three Oculus games without explanation
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

If Echo Arena wasn’t safe, then neither is anything else.

ShittyRedditWasBetter, w $70 Mortal Kombat 1 Switch version called "robbery" as graphical comparisons flood the internet

What a bunch of whiney cunts.

Imagine bitching because your 10 year old phone GPU can’t push polygons.

You are lucky they made it work as well as they did on switch and don’t charge you EXTRA for the absurd amount of optimization that it must have took to get it even workable.

BruceTwarzen,

It seems easier to just not release these games on switch and focus on the stuff it can run

stopthatgirl7,
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Or maybe just wait for the Switch 2, since that’s actually looking like it’s real? This could’ve been a good 3rd party launch title for it.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

Yeah dude lets just push back that game for a year or two while we wait for the next gen. I’m sure that’s just free and not costly at all.

Maximilious,
@Maximilious@kbin.social avatar

Ah yes, I'm sure Sony lost oodles of money sitting on Spider-man and FF7R for years before they were ported to PC, or the other console "exclusives" that have a 3-12 month waiting period.

ShittyRedditWasBetter,

Yes.

Chozo,

I mean, it probably would have been better than this. Not every game needs to release on all platforms. NeverRealm made a stupid decision trying to release on Switch at the same time as other consoles, especially when the Switch already has a foot in the grave as it is.

If they'd have waited for the new hardware, sure some fans might've been a little upset, but it's not like there's a whole lot of crossover between MK fans and players who only own a Switch in the first place. Half of the MK games never got released on a Nintendo platform at all, and several that did didn't release simultaneously with other platforms, and were also heavily modified ports.

They could've waited a year or two, and not left such a bad taste in players' mouths. I'm sure most people would've rather waited.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

I’m sure that’s what happened to Hogwarts Legacy

gaylord_fartmaster,

I’m sure there are people out there with Switch as their only means to play games that would like to be able to play Mortal Kombat now and are happy it’s available. The people complaining have unrealistic expectations, either for what the Switch’s hardware can render, the amount of work that was and is required to make a game like it work on the Switch in the first place, or both. If you don’t want to play an inferior version of the game don’t buy it, but you clearly aren’t the target audience for the game.

fushuan,

That’s for the development company to decide. If its profitable they will keep releasing because there’s a market of people that want to play the game and only have a switch. Mortal Kombat is a multiplayer game that you play for the combat, not the graphics. You can play it for the graphics but fighting games fans don’t really, so if the game runs on the switch they open up to a huge extra market.

mintiefresh, w Unity reportedly considering cap on hugely controversial per-install fees

What’s to stop them from changing the cap at a later date?

citrusface, w The Elder Scrolls VI will skip PS5 and isn’t coming until at least 2026

Why is this news?

Did anyone think after Starfield this would be coming out any time soon at all? Youre kidding yourself if you did.

woelkchen, w The Elder Scrolls VI will skip PS5 and isn’t coming until at least 2026
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

We as Microsoft are the bastion of cross-platform releases. Our games run on Xbox and Windows.

dumdum666,

I don‘t support Microsoft in any way but it is kinda funny that some PlayStation Users seem to feel personally attacked that Microsoft starts to do all the exclusivity shit that Sony has done for ages. Quit treating the whole thing as a team thing - a my team vs. that other team thing. Sony AND Microsoft are companies that will both fuck you over within the blink of an eye if it will make them money or damage the other company.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I don‘t support Microsoft in any way but it is kinda funny that some PlayStation Users seem to feel personally attacked that Microsoft starts to do all the exclusivity shit that Sony has done for ages. Quit treating the whole thing as a team thing - a my team vs. that other team thing.

I don’t even own a PlayStation so why should I quit anything? In fact, I’m a PC gamer running Windows. I can make my dumb jokes as often as I like and when I want to make fun of the fact that both Microsoft and Bethesda claimed before the acquisition that it was not about removing cross-platform support for Bethesda games and Microsoft also claims to “❤️ Linux”, you cannot stop me, even if you’d like to.

I also find it hilarious that Microsoft apologists claim that “that Sony has done the same for ages” which is factually untrue. Sony hardly ever bought cross-platform games in-house for PlayStation exclusivity (maybe the would of they had enough spare money but they don’t). Sony also releases plenty of games for Microsoft platforms, including MLB The Show, Horizon, Spider-Man, Ratchet and Clank, God of War, etc. Heck, the recently announced Marathon reboot is confirmed to come to Xbox and not just PlayStation and Microsoft Windows. Much of my PC gaming in recent years was spent playing Sony games on Windows.

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

I bought a PS5 because my old XBone was on the fritz, and the series x wasn’t available at the time… plus hardware failure from the Xbone made me lean towards Sony anyway. Hard-core console gamers also helped push me into it as well… “who cares about Halo, you will be able to play all the good games on either console”.

I have no team, and now I kind of regret even buying a console at all, it’s only real feature for me is it has a fast boot up time lol. Every other article about a new game seems to be a kick in the nuts to console owners.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Every other article about a new game seems to be a kick in the nuts to console owners.

Get a Steam Deck and every game release is a thrill ride of will the game run fine.

(Honestly, I love my Deck and stopped playing most AAA games because they annoy the fuck out of me with padding for length and ads for DLC and such.)

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

What’s the benefit of Steam deck vs something like Ally ROG? Genuine question, I have no horse in the race. (I can’t even find as much time as I wished to game in my free time at home, I am definitely not going to spend book reading time on subpar gaming)

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Ease of use. Windows on such a small screen is not much fun. For more details, look up some of the plenty comparisons on YouTube.

cypher_greyhat, w The Elder Scrolls VI will skip PS5 and isn’t coming until at least 2026

I have completely lost confidence in Bethesda.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I have completely lost confidence in Bethesda.

What did you think would really happen when Microsoft bought them?

cypher_greyhat,

Even before that. With Fallout 76’s launch, they just didn’t care anymore.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

Fallout 3, Fallout 4, Fallout 76.

thingsiplay, w What are some great open source games?
@thingsiplay@kbin.social avatar
popcar2,

These are great resources, thanks!

oldlamps, w Nexus Mods Fine With Bigots Leaving Over Removed Starfield ‘Pronoun’ Mod

Internet brain worms

Aecosthedark,

*tadpoles

JokeDeity, w Nexus Mods Fine With Bigots Leaving Over Removed Starfield ‘Pronoun’ Mod

Oh lord what a bunch of cringe. Who fucking cares? About any of this? There’s so much awful shit in the world and so many people spending their time worrying about the absolute nothing issues of the world.

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