i guess i’m the only one really excited for this? i already play elden ring randomizer runs for fun and this offers a lot more variety than that. i am very interested in seeing what they can accomplish in a new formula.
The first thing i noticed is the awful amount of TAA/Upscaling artefacting. Apart from that it looks good i guess. I mean its GTA. It will probably be an enjoyable game. But still: Fuck Rockstar. Fuck Take2.
You mean aside from abandoning RDR Online, cancelling GTA V singleplayer DLC in favour of GTA Online shark cards, intentionally delaying the PC release of GTA V to maximise the number of people who would buy the game more than once because of FOMO, absolute dog shit support and punishing their community by crushing the modding community? I’m not sure.
I’m not sure what support you’re talking about, and I’ve never delved into mods for GTA V, but the rest are just sensible business decisions, at least up until now; we’ll see how the different modern dynamic between consoles and PC plays out this time, but I think it’s the last time they’ll do it. As with all these exclusivity deals that are quickly dying out, that PC version will come, and that’s when I’ll play it.
I don’t know why you’re being nasty to me. I genuinely wasn’t sure why someone would have an issue with Rockstar. If they don’t want to make story DLC for GTA V, it’s much the same as Valve not making a Portal 3. I can just move on and play something else. Focusing on a console release first and foremost, especially for a project as ambitious as this, made a lot more sense in the past, and maybe was still common wisdom when the project got rolling. It will stop due to natural market forces. Speaking of natural market forces, it’s exactly why RDR2 Online would be abandoned: there weren’t enough people to care about it compared to its costs. Modding isn’t really my world, so I wouldn’t exactly be privy to those shenanigans, but that sucks.
I don’t think he’s being nasty to you. His frustration is with Rockstar for abandoning GTA to sell microtransactions instead of make content. A lot of people are mad at valve for not making Half-Life/Portal/Left4Dead 3 just like a lot of people are mad at Rockstar for taking 13 years to release a new GTA game.
Personally, I don’t think that’s worth getting mad over, especially not in this saturated market right now where there’s always something great to play. Valve worked on Half-Life, Portal, and Left 4 Dead many times since their last iterations, but you have to give creatives time to throw out what’s not working. And plenty of game developers I like work on plenty of stuff I’m not interested in. I just wait for them to come back around to the stuff I am interested in. In the case of live service stuff, it sucks, but Rockstar’s hardly unique there.
100%, I think people getting frustrated over the time between GTA 5 and GTA 6 don’t appreciate the time it takes to build a game on this scale. Rockstar definitely deserve credit for the worlds they build and their focus on delivering an exceptional game.
Sorry if I came across as nasty, my disdain is entirely with Rockstar and T2. After GTAIV, and the exceptional story and DLC we got many of us were excited to see what DLC was in store for GTAV. To have Rockstar to walk back the planned DLC in favour pushing shark cards and micro-transactions in GTA Online left many of us feeling pretty betrayed at the time.
Regarding the launch, GTAV originally came out on Xbox 360 and PS3 in September 2013, then on a new console generation in November 2014, and didn’t come to PC until April 2015. Many were doubtful that a company with the resources and talent available to Rockstar needed such a delay, and it stank of another tactic to maximise the number of people buying multiple copies.
Gotcha. No worries. I’m more disappointed that basically everyone in the industry stopped making crime stories except for Yakuza, but we’ve got two coming this year, at least, in MindsEye and Mafia: The Old Country.
Did they finally do something about the modders on GTAV online? I used to play but ended up with a stalker that made the game unplayable for me because he would kick me anytime I got online, for weeks. I had to download one of the paid mod menus to stay hidden from him until I just didn’t feel like paying for that anymore and just gave up and stopped playing. It was extremely frustrating to say the least.
As long as they let you turn off the upscaling I won’t complain about it. Unfortunately there has been a trend as of late to force it on; the artifacting drives me nuts. It’s always harder to to see in youtube videos though, since they are compressed quite a bit compared to live play.
Biggest thing that concerns me was their focus on pushing one into multiplayer in V. I’m worried that is going to intensify since it made them so damn much money doing that last time.
Either way, game isn’t out for a year, and it isn’t out for PC for probably two years. So, just going to go back to enjoying my Breath of Fire IV playthrough I’m currently doing. :)
I don’t think a lot of people are going to double dip this time. This game will sell consoles, but it’s not going to make up for the deficit the console market has compared to how many PS3s and Xbox 360s were out there in 2013.
I really hope this is true. The only thing that will stop Rockstar from the delayed PC release nonsense in the future is actually stopping the double dip.
I ended up with a PS4 just for Red Dead 2. But I still haven’t bought it on PC and have no plans to do so.
The thing is, the PS4 kind of made sense because I also wanted a Blu-Ray player. I still have it for that, so a PS5 would be an impossible sell to me. It’s like Rockstar tries to sell consoles but this time around is one of the worst ever console eras.
I’m with them; my 1080p TV still gets the job done and looks great to me. Maybe I’d be more invested in cinema if cinema cared more about what I want. I can’t even walk into brick and mortar and buy a movie anymore, and it’s not like there’s a GOG for movies.
Yeah if you care about cinema you definely want a better resolution and considering to buy your UHD versions whenever available, but I could say the same for some modern videogames.
My tv is 4k, but I exclusively watch 1080p movies and series on it. I’m not going to double my subscription costs just to get 4k streaming, and most piratable files are 1080p.
Piracy has been on 4K for longer than streaming has been charging extra for it. New releases on the scene have actually started skipping FHD unless explicitly requested.
There’s a time and place for 4k. It is not all the time. But some things are treats with high resolution and pixels-per-fov of your vision. Also oled looks so, so good.
That being said, 1080p for older stuff looks perfectly fine, and I’d argue audio quality, audio stereo image, and accurate frequency spectrum resolution is game changing, and arguably more important.
RE: gog for movies: that is a fascinating idea. What would that look like, to you? I’m very curious.
I just need to be able to buy and download DRM-free movies. Outside of that, I don’t care what it looks like. Movie studios put so much DRM on my Blu Rays that they’re a pain to rip (but notably, not impossible to rip), and “digital copies” of movies are just long term rentals. Meanwhile the movie industry is on fire while their old revenue streams dry up, and they’re scratching their heads as to where they went wrong.
I’ve been a PC player for 2 decades now, but it’s getting so expensive! I can’t go back to consoles after being so free, but high end PC gaming is probably over for me. I feel one of my biggest mistakes was buying my first 1440p monitor, everything gets more expensive and I put myself in that position.
As a “game purist” I’ve a 1080p desktop setup for PC and retro, I’m planning to build a full 4k space in the future for this/next gen; 2k is a particular spot, more work oriented, but it can be used to play better well-optimized PC games that don’t need a 4k gamepad experience (I think it hardly depends on the screen size and how it’s placed). I would also really like to buy a real CRT in the future!
I own a NEC CRT and I use it even for modern games every now and then. I beat Silent Hill 2 Remake on it last year and it looks great. I can’t remember which resolution it was, but I only lost a bit of screen on top and bottom so it was playable even if the game didn’t come with 4:3 support.
I’ve always been a midrange gamer. It is getting expensive. But a mid range PC is still as powerful as a console for a roughly similar price. I’m in for the gameplay, not so much the ultra high graphics.
I’ve always enjoyed trying new technologies such as Ray Tracing or HDR, but all in all I agree with you, gameplay comes first. That’s why I’ve been falling in love with indie games more and more.
I’ve always been a mid-range gamer. When I was younger, that’s just what I could afford. As I’ve grown older, I didn’t see the point of spending more for high end. Mid-range already feels too expensive. But luckily, the parts last for 5 years easily.
Just play at 1080p on your 1440p monitor. Also take solace knowing that everybody is in the same boat and complaining that studios are putting too much time into making things look real rather than good or be fun. So we’re in a sort of pre-renaissance with socioeconomics and tech business. Something’s got to give, and it ain’t Valve, hopefully. That would be a disaster, as they’re a lot more important than any of us know. They lead the gaming sector and business in the gaming sector, which leads the tech and entertainment sectors, which ultimately translate to the rest of society. And they lead with… Integrity and consumer friendly practices.
Also, tell AAA to fuck off until they get their acts together. Stop playing live service games, and just play other, better games high-endedly. They don’t have to be brand new, either. Look for independent studios, smaller studios, and/or non-American studios. It’s okay to play big titles when they’re good, but the actual good games haven’t been in AAA or big American published studios now for like ten years. Every once in a while in that space, an anomaly appears, but those are the exceptions to the rule.
If you want, you can focus on peripherals like nice headphones or steering wheel or a good controller for your pc. Those, combined with playing more genres and exploring different things (keep an eye on humble bundle, too! And epic store free games!) can really keep your libraries full and feeling fresh.
The lucrative and naive kids stay the same age for studios, but we all grow up eventually, and if we still love gaming, we need to demand better from studios by speaking up and not buying garbage. The older, experienced demographic that has realized the bullshit is just going to grow bigger, we aren’t going away, and we WANT to buy games. It’s only a matter of time before more studios realize this and cater to us rather than make the same garbage that only the inexperienced can play, just slightly shinier each year.
I’m watching things in 4K and playing in 1080p. It’s exactly four times the pixels, so it’s pixel-perfect scaling and it looks fine. (58" TV and the sofa is about 3 metres far, so a bit on the smallish side. I’m sure a 65" would look just as good.)
Woah 3 meters is really far for a 60 inch. I have a 60 inch at about 1-1.4 meters and it’s great. Perfect for two people on a couch with some nice bookshelf speakers heavily toe’d in. It’s not great for entertaining, but for watching things it’s honestly better than some theaters.
It’s all about how much it fills up your field of vision and how closely your retina’s resolution matches the display’s resolution. I don’t want to have to turn my head at all to see things, and still be able to use my peripheral vision to have good awareness of the entire scene, and not see individual pixels if I can help it. But, still have it fill as much of my vision as possible while within those constraints.
Been wanting to upgrade to a 70-80 inch screen, too, at the same distance.
Another big variable is height placement of the tv in relation to one’s head height and angle while comfortably sitting where you’ll sit. Sit, close your eyes, sit comfortably, play with tilting your head forwards and back until you find a comfortable and sustainable pitch angle, with your eyes still closed look directly out from your skull, open your eyes, and that location is where the middle of your tv should be (it’s usually about 10-20degrees down from directly ahead, but is different for everybody and your seating position and body). So if your tv is 3meters away, your optimum tv height might be on the literal floor. (And also speaker woofer and cabinet size for the volume of the room (bigger speakers for bigger rooms), and placement, depending on viewership location and count, go for an equilateral triangle between your seating position and the two speakers and default to having the tweeters at ear height with no obstructions and pointing at your ears for the most accurate imaging and least amount of comb filtering, and keep the woofers and tweeters vertically aligned to minimize time variance, which is good for stereo image, and try not to have you or speakers too close to walls or especially corners).
Very true. Cinema rooms and living rooms can be the same, but I absolutely agree that most cinema rooms absolutely compromise on social entertaining. It can be done, but it’s difficult and has to be done consciously. I’m of the belief that they can both be done, well, together, and in a single space.
Back in 2013, I bought an old PS3 + GTA5 for £150 or so just to play the game, then once I had it, picked up two more exclusives, before never touching it again pretty quickly.
Getting a console for GTA6, plus the game, this time may set me back more than my expendable income after rent and bills. It will absolutely sell consoles but I’d wager people are actually able to buy a console much less than in 2013.
Again, it’s coming to PC. Every GTA game comes to PC eventually. Rockstar purposely waits 6+ months to announce the PC version, because they know people like you will double dip. It happens every single time, and you keep falling for it.
I’m not saying that Rockstar is in the right for doing it this way, but they keep doing it cause you keep forgetting that they do this every time. The downvotes prove it; none of y’all ever learn. That’s why I’m so annoyed.
It’s a double dipping technique.
First all players are hyped for GTA6, some even buying a console to experience it on launch day.
Then the PC release get’s out 1-2 years later and everyone with a capable rig know it will run better there and buy it again.
Assuming it will be a 80€ game, they now made 160€ in revenue instead of 80.
Apparently there is a lot more info about the game on the official site: www.rockstargames.com/VI
It’s not loading at the moment but it contains some screenshots, character info, and confirms certain locations that will appear.
The trailer looked gorgeous, possibly the most photorealistic game we’ve seen yet. I know it was probably recorded on a PS5 Pro, but the fact that it looks this good on console is wild. Still lame that it won’t release on PC at release.
Unless you have no plans to play Online, the money you’ll spend on Shark Cards trying to catch up with established players will far exceed $80. That’s why I stopped playing GTA V Online—I got tired of grinding for cash, just to keep up with the unemployed people who dedicate their lives to one game (I refuse to spend money on microtransactions in any game). Either play at launch, or don’t bother with Online.
There’s literally no reason in this day and age to not release on pc on day 1. Xb and ps market share is absolutely losing ground to pc at record time, there’s no reason anymore.
If they don’t pc release day 1, then I guess gta6 actually just comes out 2027.
Because the game isn’t out for another year and it’s unreasonable to expect them to show current gameplay because it won’t be at all representative for the final result.
I’ve never regretted a GTA purchase (admittedly I didn’t get the remasters so that might be why…) so I’m cautiously looking forward to this one. Started up 5 again recently with the Enhanced version dropping on PC and man its still stupid fun.
I love GTAV and play Online almost everyday. But this bullshit about delays and more delays every year is just annoying as hell. How many years have they had to get this right?
I'm reminded of the quote "Don't let perfect get in the way of good." and I'm beginning to wonder if that's what's going on here? Are they delaying a good game because it's not "perfect" or are they just so incompetent that they have to keep going back to "fix" things???
And watch, when it does come out it'll be buggy as hell. Everyone will be asking "You've had all of this time. Why are there so many bugs?" and Rockstar will just shrug their shoulders all of the way to the bank.
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