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Hubi, do games w Gothic 1 Remake | Welcome to the Old Camp | Showcase Trailer 2023

I’m really looking forward to this game. Brings me right back to my childhood!

sterno900, do games w Titan Quest II | Announcement Trailer

This is legendary

wcSyndrome, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic

I get everyone’s sentiment here, boiling it down to “better games are better” but also keep in mind the development costs and times for making new games are constantly going up. Yeah of course there are fantastic indie games out there (and I love them myself) that have a fraction of AAA game budgets and dev time but those are the gems in the rough, not the norm.

I’m all for better gaming experiences but they do come with tradeoffs. Also, flops are now death sentences for studios so the pressure to perform is even higher

theodewere,
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

you sound like EA public relations

Chozo,

He's not wrong, though. Game development is a business, like any other, and larger-scale games require exponentially more resources to produce than smaller indie titles.

Obviously one could make the argument "Well they shouldn't be making every single game into a huge, multi-billion dollar blockbuster title that costs the player an arm and a leg to gain access to, then they wouldn't need that amount of resources to begin with", and that would be a fair argument. But ultimately, people keep buying those games, anyway. And not by force, they buy them of their own volition. So those games continue to be profitable. There's no incentive for big studios to change their ways when consumers keep giving them money, so they're going to keep making huge games that require huge resources and huge payments from the players.

theodewere,
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

yeah you guys are working really hard here

Chozo,

I'm not sure what you mean. Were you offering some sort of insight into what I or the other person was actually saying, or just whining? Some of us are having a conversation here.

theodewere,
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

you're working really hard to try to stipulate something, i agree

Chozo,

Okay, thanks for sharing that. Much appreciated. Have a nice day, then.

theodewere,
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

my day's fine, and your point isn't very interesting.. it sounds like corporate spin..

wcSyndrome,

It’s mind boggling when the costs of games get leaked (or revealed during court cases). It makes me sad that so many studios have pivoted to the strategy you’ve described because it means we’ll have less games of a franchise I enjoy since the development takes so long or the developement is never even started because people have decided the profit won’t be as high as making a blockbuster game. Hell, look at Rockstar milking whales with GTA V, that’s a slightly different conversation, but it’s crazy how long the gap between GTA V and GTA VI are

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  • theodewere,
    @theodewere@kbin.social avatar

    it's interesting that you needed to try to insult me

    wcSyndrome,

    If EA is willing to cut me a check for telling you that games are getting more expensive and take longer to make then tell me where to sign

    theodewere,
    @theodewere@kbin.social avatar

    i wonder if you think you are even trying to pretend to discuss Baldur's Gate 3

    Magrath, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic

    Click baiting video. Other devs don’t care. As long as they can make money pumping out mediocre games then they will continue to do so. Acting like this is the first good game to come out in a decade or something.

    DrM,

    DEVs do care. As a developer working on something you want to be proud of it. Publishers do not care.

    bionicjoey,

    Looking at how many games have stood in Dragon Age: Origins’ shadow over the past decade, I get the sense that lots of studios wanted to create the true spiritual successor but couldn’t come up with the resources to do so.

    storksforlegs,
    @storksforlegs@beehaw.org avatar

    Or if not lacking resources, definitely lacking the creative freedom.

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    The individuals working on the game might care.

    The managers who make the decisions don’t. Doesn’t matter if they are a publisher or the development company itself. It’s a bit blurry these days anyway, what with how easy it is to self publish and how many publishers have their own internal development studios.

    Ilflish,

    The managers who make the decisions is also unclear as power differs on the company. They could care all the way up to the CEO but if the CEO puts an unrealistic deadline, the game has an unrealistic deadline

    ono, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic

    I have no doubt that the game is outstanding, but after seeing headlines like this all week, it really smells like an advertising campaign.

    Chozo,

    It might be, but what would that change about the story? Unless Larian is paying other studios to say that they're panicking (which I doubt, for a million reasons), then I'm not so sure there's any difference to the situation.

    luthis,

    Not advertising. These are the Steam reviews. It’s organic hype. It’s just wierd because we have had such a shit time with AAA games for years.

    https://files.catbox.moe/6q8d5p.png

    ono,

    Not advertising. These are the Steam reviews.

    Those two things are not mutually exclusive, but I hope you’re right.

    bionicjoey,

    It is actually that good. First game to fully recapture the magic of Dragon Age Origins

    Neato,
    @Neato@kbin.social avatar

    Sites like IGN must follow gaming trends to survive. BG3 is a huge release and I've been seeing this story everywhere for weeks, increasing in frequency.

    stagen, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic
    @stagen@feddit.dk avatar

    Honestly I hope this does indeed set a new gold standard. Probably not with the whole early access thing, though. It’s a thing that needs to go away.

    pixel,
    @pixel@beehaw.org avatar

    EA is an immensely useful tool for game devs, the issue is EA as an excuse to ship unpolished games or to leave games unfinished forever. Neither of which are problems intrinsic to early access, they’re just bad business practice that should be shunned like any other

    soulsource,
    @soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    As a gamedev: Early Access was useful for devs, back when it was real Early Access. Think: Kerbal Space Program (the first, not the second).

    Nowadays it’s mostly a marketing tool, that allows to generate the hype for launch twice… Publishers and players expect “Early Access” games to be feature complete and polished before the “Early Access” launch…

    Maultasche,

    I liked what Daemon X Machina did, where they released a demo, sent out questionnaires to everyone who downloaded it, published a video about the results save how they were planning to act on it, and a few months later released a new demo with a new questionnaire.

    soulsource,
    @soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Yep, that’s probably the most helpful thing for devs. This sadly often conflicts with publishers’ announcement schedules. There are, however, companies that do NDA-protected play-tests, where you get the same kind of information, without publicly announcing the game.

    Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Ubisoft did (does?) it to a degree with their Rainbow 6 TTS (beta) servers to test the sandbox and did so for a few technical alpha/beta releases acting as selected pewviews to see how the game is received and where bugs are.

    Nalivai,

    And again, Larian Studios used EA as intended, which allowed them to publish a good, polished game.

    stopthatgirl7,
    !deleted7120 avatar

    As did Supergiant, with Hades. When Early Access is used properly, it can help make a great game.

    TauriWarrior,

    Early access worked well for them, part of the start of the game was able to be play tested, the community got to give feedback, and they actually listened, its how it should be done

    Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Yeah but not how the remaining whole industry treats it.
    I saw literally no outcry regarding BG3 and early game bugs. Comparing it to CP2077 it was a stellar release in terms of PR.

    Lojcs,

    CP2077 didn’t have early access tho? How is this an argument against early access

    Kolanaki,
    !deleted6508 avatar

    I don’t think Early Access should go away as it’s not inherently bad in and of itself.

    What’s bad about it is when it’s used to sell a totally unfinished piece of shit that stays an unfinished piece of shit indefinitely.

    Diplomjodler, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic

    OMG OMG OMG!!! The peasants will expect quality now! We’re doomed! Doomed!

    CarolineJohnson,
    @CarolineJohnson@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Not only quality, but they’ll also expect a released game to be finished at launch!

    Poiar,

    In my area of business, 'being finished" is a part of “quality”.

    I.e., something that’s unfinished, cannot be said to have high quality

    Eggyhead,
    @Eggyhead@artemis.camp avatar

    …from a developer that disavows micro transactions!

    Ronno,
    @Ronno@kbin.social avatar

    ... proceeds with another yearly installment of game X that could have been released as DLC, but instead built it as "a new game", selling at 1 cent per bug.

    recursive_recursion, do games w BIONICLE: Masks of Power - Demo Trailer
    @recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

    damn a new Bionicle product

    I thought it would never happen in my lifetime
    pog

    rich, do games w Quake II - Official Trailer (2023)

    Been playing Quake 1 with the pc VR mod, which was an experience. Hoping quake 2 gets the same

    MoonlitSanguine, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic

    Fans expectations for games are already insanely high. Baldur’s Gate 3 isn’t going to change much.

    Also the video implies that this complaint is industry wide but only has 3 tweets (or X’s?).

    eleefece,
    @eleefece@kbin.social avatar

    I believe the correct term is "Xhit" or "excretion"

    hanni,

    Your expectations from video game journalism is too high.

    IWantToFuckSpez,

    This just feels like an excuse of this IGN content creator to rant against developers.

    luthis, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic

    I might just buy this at full price even though I don’t have any intention of playing it any time soon, just to show support for a game studio that is still doing it right.

    wrath-sedan, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic
    @wrath-sedan@kbin.social avatar

    “Oh no fans might demand good games at release! The horror!”

    Thavron,
    @Thavron@lemmy.ca avatar

    Won’t anybody think of the stockholders‽

    Nitrate55, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic

    This reminds me of the time Ubisoft developers decided to have a removedfit about Elden Ring because it didn’t have any of the same shitty monetization or trash formulaic design choices as their games.

    It’s like these developers think that because they’re painfully mediocre, every other studio is required to be as well.

    jballs, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic
    @jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Lol dude absolutely tore apart Diablo at the end there.

    Aussiemandeus, do gaming w Baldur’s Gate 3 is Causing Some Developers to Panic
    @Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone avatar

    Nothing better then moving the benchmark forward.

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