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ninjan, do gaming w Phil Spencer has reportedly reassured employees Microsoft ‘won’t stop making Xbox consoles’

They’d be dumb to keep making consoles as we know them today. A much better long term business move would be to make a “cloud gaming Chromecast” a la Stadia but, if they want to retain their fan base, a disc player that mearly reads and validates your disc and then runs the game from the cloud. Thus letting Xbox fans still have access to their games. That in turn would allow them to have the base subscription have a library that changes to a great degree every month and you only get “permanent” access if you buy the games. Hell if the “buy” cost is lowered then people would by and large applaud them for it.

The hardware has almost always been sold at a loss but with how many datacenters they have now, how long they’ve been refining the game pass and the Xbox Cloud gaming service it seems like the only way to wrestle away Sony and PlayStations dominance in high end console gaming.

Now don’t get me wrong, I absolutely hate the whole “you will own nothing, rent everything, and be happy” paradigm were in now and refuse it for a lot of things. But I also understand business and I’m reasonably sure the average consumer will actually love it. “Console” for like $100, the subscription say $15 at base, $25 for the full month and you get all the games you could ever play. It would be a no-brainer for any non-gamer parent. The kids will love it, no more begging for that new game, they’ll have it day one and so will all their friends. Hell parents will probably also love the blanket, one time, parental action of setting which ESRB ratings are allowed instead of having to vet it game by game while the kid screams that Johnny gets to play it. Now they can just say ‘no if the Xbox won’t let you see it and play it then there’s nothing I can do honey’ and it’s just enough deflection that it might pass.

It’s really only when you zoom out that it becomes a shitty deal. But that’s not something the majority ever cares go do.

shinratdr,
@shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah because PlayStation Now, OnLive, Stadia, xCloud, GeForce Now & Luna were such rousing successes.

When are people going to realize that the AAA gaming crowd just isn’t interested in Cloud gaming? They have oodles of disposable income, “cost” is not a real barrier to entry for this group.

Microsoft should abandon the Xbox and offer some kind of BC program, I agree with that. But any box is as good as the next. Offer xCloud and game streaming on everything, stop making hardware, and publish games for PS5, PC, and Switch where it makes sense.

Maybe it’ll take off, maybe it won’t. But the actual console part of the business isn’t doing them any favours, they’re just PCs sold at crappy margins now.

Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

As inclined I am to agree with you on a personal level, kids these days are trained to think games just come with MTX, and all bonus content in a game that isn’t a loot box is just paid DLC. All Microsoft has to do is just make this the easiest way to get Xbox games, keep it going long enough, and people eventually won’t know any better or even care anymore. Then they ratchet up the price to make it feel like they’re still profiting from console sales as well.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Latency is enough of a thing that even a child raised on it will recognize the benefits of running the game locally, not to mention mods and other privileges that come with having a local copy of a game.

Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

I’m probably just getting pessimistic with age, but corporations just see dollar signs with subscriptions and reduced expenses with digital distribution. Then they will outlive you and me.

It may be objectively better for players to have physical copies of their games installed on hardware they have dominion over, but we are unlikely to be around to prove that to our great grandkids. We can’t even guarantee even our own children will care enough to try to tell theirs. I’m almost certain owning physical copies of digital content is going to be for niche hobbyists in the future.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

People always talk about this being physical versus digital, but I'd say this is about DRM. Physical media decays. DRM-free games can be perfectly copied over and over again, and it comes with the bonus of not taking up space in my apartment. If a game requires a server to connect to or stream from, that's often just a fancy form of DRM.

YuzuDrink,
@YuzuDrink@beehaw.org avatar

My 7yo was upset the other night because I’d been playing FF7R (wanted to finish before the new one hits) instead of joining him in Minecraft or Fortnite or Parkitect or whatever.

He literally thought that FF7R didn’t have an ending because I guess in his mind all games are just live service/hobby things. Even I guess the ones that are story things.

SpectralPineapple, (edited )

I’ve played Xcloud on a good wired connection. It’s impressive but IMHO opinion far from ideal. Input lag is getting better but it’s still noticeable. Resolution varies but it’s never as good as the real thing. Noticeably worse, actually. Loading a game takes longer than locally. For me? It’s not enough. That said, before I was around, my mother-in-law spent years watching everything on the wrong aspect ratio. On a good TV. So I can totally see a lot of people streaming games for years without realizing how much better gaming can be.

dylanTheDeveloper, do games w Ubisoft CEO defends Skull and Bones’ $70 price despite its live service leanings, calls it ‘quadruple-A’
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

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books, do games w Hogwarts Legacy has officially cleared Zelda as 2023's best-selling game worldwide

I bought it and was hoping for more leveling up and more RPG elements but it wasn’t.

pachrist,

I really liked the side quests though. It felt like every single one involved going to a cave, finding out the NPC’s friend/relative was dead, and then report back. It definitely didn’t get old after the first dozen or so.

Also, the Merlin trials were great. Hundreds of locations, but only like 6 different puzzles.

I haven’t played a game where the devs copy/pasted that much in a while.

Blackmist,

I really liked the side quests though. It felt like every single one involved going to a cave, finding out the NPC’s friend/relative was dead, and then report back. It definitely didn’t get old after the first dozen or so.

Sounds exactly like Skyrim tbh…

Harbinger01173430, do games w Hogwarts Legacy has officially cleared Zelda as 2023's best-selling game worldwide

Serious question. Who’d win, wizard trying to cast a spell or sovereign citizen with a gun?

Honytawk,

If the sovereign citizen’s gun is as real as their documents, then the Wizard.

toxicbubble420, (edited ) do gaming w Netflix is reportedly exploring adding in-game ads to its gaming service

yo ho ho and a bottle of rum

Infinite_Indecision, do gaming w Netflix is reportedly exploring adding in-game ads to its gaming service
@Infinite_Indecision@midwest.social avatar

So maybe I’m just out of touch, but who reads this and still wants to use this service?

ModernRisk,
@ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Perhaps the ones that don’t pirate or don’t have to pay for the service.

I personally avoid all streaming services like the plague and sail the high seas.

FfaerieOxide, do gaming w Netflix is reportedly exploring adding in-game ads to its gaming service
@FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

Sega Channel never did that shit. 😒

Pepsi,
@Pepsi@kbin.social avatar

Yeah it was amazing for the 3-4 hours it worked every day.

Damn haven’t thought about that shit for 25 years.

MrScottyTay, do games w A record 14,000+ games were released on Steam in 2023

And 13,500 of them were Hentai puzzle games

dangblingus, do games w Square Enix’s president says it will be ‘aggressive in applying’ AI

Cool. I’ll continue to aggressively avoid Square Enix games like I have since 2017.

thorbot,

I’ve had zero interest in anything Square Enix makes except the new Super Mario RPG, because otherwise it’s all weird ass weeb shit with the most convoluted storylines that need an undergraduate degree in the lore to understand it. I doubt AI will make that less of a problem.

ekZepp, do games w Square Enix’s president says it will be ‘aggressive in applying’ AI
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar
AnonTwo, do games w Sega wants classic franchise reboots to show ‘edginess and a rebellious mind-set’

If we've learned anything from the past, just give The Super Monkey Ball Monkey a gun

Feathercrown,

They should just replace all the reboot characters with Shadow the Hedgehog

Coelacanth, do games w One of Star Wars’ best FPS games is getting remastered in February | VGC
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I was too young for this at the time, but I have fond memories of Dark Forces II and its FMV cutscenes, which blew my mind at the time. I hope they remaster that one too (though I’d love a full-on remake, if allowed to dream).

Xanvial, do games w Microsoft’s CEO say it’s ‘doubling down’ on being a game producer and publisher | VGC

By publishing to PS5?

Chozo, do games w CD Projekt appears to hint at more Cyberpunk content from Edgerunners studio Trigger

This is promising! I'm glad to see that the expansion has revitalized the love for Cyberpunk. I really hope they keep expanding on this franchise, Night City is just too good of an environment to not have those amazing stories put into the spotlight.

Restaldt, do gaming w Cancelled Hyenas was ‘Sega’s biggest budget game ever’, it’s claimed | VGC

Lol.

Fuck Creative assembly and their $30 dlc

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

What $30 DLC?

HuntressHimbo,

Just before Hyenas was cancelled they jacked up the price of DLC for the final game in the very popular total war warhammer franchise with less content. The allocation of resources to Hyenas is also taken as part of the reason the third installment in TWW was so buggy

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Gotcha. On its face, $30 expansion content for a strategy game is pretty common though. A friend of mine also pointed out that they probably ought to have been funneling those resources toward Yakuza/Like a Dragon also, since that series has been a workhorse for them lately. Personally, their inability to keep those games at a constant level of production value is one of a few deterrents for me to dive into the series.

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