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  • melpomenesclevage,

    I know. It would be so fucking cool. Oh well.

    PlexSheep,

    What exactly are you referring to? Matrix?

    AngryPancake,

    There’s also IRC

    vox,
    @vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

    irc is booring and dated

    (even though it’s much more robust than matrix and does not suffer from desyncs and stuff)

    ipkpjersi,

    does not suffer from desyncs

    Not entirely true. IRC can have network splits (I believe they were referred to as netsplits if I remember correctly) where one network can drop out. You can notice this when you see like 50+ people leave a channel at the exact same time because the network they were on disconnected, it’s kind of interesting imo lol but also I’m a nerd so maybe that’s why I find it interesting.

    vox,
    @vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

    it’s not as big of an issue as on matrix.
    stuff can desync and the server has to decide which state is canonical, dropping out some messages

    daq,

    How is IRC decentralized?

    AngryPancake,

    Because everyone can spin up their own irc server. It’s not federated though.

    ipkpjersi,

    What would it be called?

    shasta,

    Email!

    cordlesslamp,

    Datcord?

    meldrik,

    Just learned about Revolt.chat. It looks to have great potential. It’s basically a Discord clone.

    Secret300,

    Personally I don’t trust it. Don’t really have any reason not to but it just feels eh to me. Just use matrix

    merthyr1831,

    I guess if you like matrix thats cool, but I did just do a quick google and it looks like their clients and server backend are all open source (AGPL-3) and self-hostable so I wouldn’t say there’s much to distrust.

    meldrik,

    Matrix is great at what it does, but it’s not a replacement for Discord imho.

    MilitantVegan,

    Revolt is promising in that it’s trying to be a direct Discord clone, but it’s also being made by one person as a passion project, and it sounds like it’s their first time doing a project of this size. Last time I checked, encryption was not even implemented in it yet.

    Matrix is distinctly different from Discord, but it’s certainly more mature and featurefull as well.

    meldrik,

    Couldn’t agree more. Revolt is still in it’s infancy, but it has great potential.

    CosmicCleric,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    I just had a KDE/Gnome flashback from reading your comment.

    rimjob_rainer,

    Until ten years ago we used TeamSpeak for voice chat, IRC and forum for text. You can host all of them yourself. Today we have the fediverse and matrix. The problem is that kids get caught by the likes of tiktok and discord (because they are easily accessible with no other requirements than a phone or pc) and they can’t get away from them.

    Deway,

    And we could call it… XMPP! Maybe that’s too nerdy… What about Jabber?

    ILikeBoobies,

    There is also Jami, if you want to just chat with friends

    kadu, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ll reinforce my comment from months ago: I have the latest version of Yuzu, the keys, the firmware, the Linux and Windows versions, and links to ROM sites, and I’ll distribute them forever to whoever asks in my DMs. I packaged them in a simple .zip with easy to follow instructions.

    That said, why simply not use Ryujinx? Even on the Steam Deck performance is very good nowadays. Super Mario Wonder plays at 60 FPS on the Deck (though you need to enable a very simple mod that disables some weird function the game runs, otherwise it drops to 30 FPS all the time). In fact, for AMD GPUs, you’re doing yourself a huge favor by going Ryujinx over Yuzu and derivatives.

    Ryujinx is solid, accurate and well known, it’s a trusted emulator. The Yuzu forks are unknown, managed by non experienced people (one was quite literally created by a teenager with zero coding knowledge) and extremely ephemeral.

    LucidNightmare,

    Hey, Kadu! It’s so good to see you again! I have been using the yuzu zip you sent me, and have been playing the hell out of some of my games. I just wanted to say thank you so freaking much, from the bottom of my heart! 🙏

    kadu,
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

    Thanks for the very kind comment. Happy to hear you’re enjoying Yuzu :)

    yamanii,
    @yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

    Ryujinx runs very poorly on older cpus like ryzen 3200G, I played ToTK fine on Yuzu, but on ryujinx the game becomes a slideshow, I also can’t get 60fps on Princess Peach with it.

    force,

    Yeah Ryujinx is in C# Unity so it has its limits. They wrote Yuzu mostly in C++ so while it tended to be buggy it performed way better.

    merthyr1831,

    I’m still pretty solid with my Yuzu install so I’ve no need to move to Ryujinx for now, but assuming they avoid Ninty’s legal team I’ll likely pick up Ryujinx when I need a fresh steamOS install and/or Ryujinx surpasses Yuzu’s compatibility in a game I wanna play

    NaoPb,

    Thank you for your good work.

    hash0772,

    Ryujinx is for perfect emulation, as in it aims to completely replicate how the Nintendo Switch works. While Yuzu is an emulator that aims for better performance than the Switch while playing Switch games.

    kadu,
    @kadu@lemmy.world avatar

    You correct in the statement Ryujinx aims for accuracy and does not implement certain performance workarounds Yuzu did. However, your comment is exaggerated. Even Ryujinx isn’t a cycle accurate emulator, nowhere close.

    hash0772, (edited )

    Yeah, it is kind of exaggerated, though the reason people preferred Yuzu was this.

    Cyyy,

    Ryujinx don’t works on android. So also not on the Odin 2 Pro as an example. that’s why (for me).

    intensely_human, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well

    Pretty fucking authoritarian for a company that uses the OPA’s split circle as its logo

    Phoonzang,

    Wait. The OPA from expanse? There is some resemblance, but I’d say it more looks like a gamepad/emoji hybrid.

    S_H_K, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well

    Even beyond the point of “using discord”. Nintendo is reaching harassment levels of assholism. Are they doing even worse that with Gaty Bowser?

    obinice, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well
    @obinice@lemmy.world avatar

    Why 👏 is 👏 every 👏 word 👏 padded 👏 by 👏 emoticons 👏 ?

    Kbobabob,

    You’ve never seen someone clap between every word trying to get their point across?

    thatgirlwasfire,

    I have, but the clapping made me think their point wasn’t well thought out.

    TrickDacy,
    @TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

    Notopbutok

    aniki,

    👏 Your👏 opinion👏 is👏 irrelevant.👏

    Womble,

    And yours even moreso

    Pra,

    I💪D😉K🎉My🤔Sister🎃Showed💤Me💅A🌌TikTok🙇Like🦮This🍄One🧩Time

    bigkahuna1986,

    I misread that and thought you were d*cking your sister.

    IronKrill,
    @IronKrill@lemmy.ca avatar

    You’re not alone, bud. You see what you want to see, I suppose. /j

    S_H_K,

    Never your granny clapped between words while shouting some order or rule?

    bionicjoey,

    They are emoji. Emoticons are these things :( :)

    jaybone,

    That one looks like a gorilla ate a ghost.

    FinalRemix,

    This Kong… has a spooky face

    LinusSexTips,

    ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

    lemmytellyousomething, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well

    Matrix is a better Discord.

    mp3,
    @mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

    Privacy-wise sure, but feature-wise it has some work to do.

    Katrisia,

    I liked Revolt.

    mnemonicmonkeys,

    Revolt is still a thing, though apparently they’re trying to rebuild voice chat

    EngineerGaming,
    @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl avatar

    Jabber is a better Matrix.

    rdri, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well

    “We will repeat in every sentence that we are not a for-profit emulator, we’ll be fine!”

    Yeah.

    Carighan, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    What I hate most about this is how they now moved to Rocket Chat.

    Come on people. Use a forum. Get the message, finally. Do it!

    Crafter72,
    @Crafter72@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m pretty sure most of people who mainly use discord as their main social apps probably never touched forum-based internet.

    Hosting your own forum is also better as you (the owner of the site) can still retrieve the msgs as long as you still have the access to the host server (so you can back them up in case shutting down, then going to resurfacing later).

    Not to mention using discord is already risking yourself because of their shitty policy.

    someacnt_,

    I make lots of use of discord. That does not mean I prefer it to forum style for communication - discord just suits well for one-off joke-y talk

    Crafter72,
    @Crafter72@lemmy.world avatar

    Maybe in my message seems to focus solely on discord for putting the blame… The problem nowadays is that mostly these “devs” share/upload/host their releases in Discord which means you do use Discord’s CDN to host their files. Another common complaint of these practices is that you need to join their server in order to just download relevant files which makes it infuriating if you stumbles across these practices often. For example I joined 8 different discord servers just to download a software/binary/release, why can’t just put the release on something like Mediafire, Google Drive, Megaupload or perhaps sourceforge.

    I do understand Discord is communication platform but most of time some people are too lazy to manage stuff so what happen is that everything is hosted in single place as such Discord.

    someacnt_,

    Wait, wtf. People literally post helpful resources and artifacts on discord, and nowhere else? Huh. Just as I thought it is impossible to go lower

    Crafter72,
    @Crafter72@lemmy.world avatar

    Internet is really wide and open if you know direction :)

    Even libgen (Library Genesis) still provide IRC as one of option to download ebook from their catalog.

    FMHY and Internet Archive is a good entry point if you want to search anything.

    madcaesar,

    What’s a safe way to host a site without anyone being able to track it to you?

    merthyr1831,

    try !privacy as I’m not 100% on this stuff

    but basically:

    some third party hosts let you sign up anonymously with an anonymous email etc.

    Only ever connect to the server host via VPN

    Get a domain with anonymous WHOIS protection

    Stick it all behind a reverse proxy


    Technically Nintendo or whoever could demand your proxy/host to stop doing business with your account, but they won’t have enough personal info to go beyond that and you can just rehost it under new info.

    madcaesar,

    How would you pay for the hosting without being exposed?

    Crafter72,
    @Crafter72@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ll explain it in layman’s terms…

    • There is always a price (inconvenience) for secure-ness in online world.
    • There’s 2 option to host a forum,
      1. You can use service like forum hoster or rent a VPS (so you can setup your own server although not self-hosting).
      2. Self-host yourself (this one a bit tricky if you aren’t prepared).
    • Learn some good basic OpSec habit (eg. Never use same password, Never put your personal detail in your active directory especially on your site source document, use 2FA and so on).
    • Learn to spot a phising or malicious link and never to randomly click random link in an email (in times when someone tried to social engineering you).
    • Use reputable service provider if you are not going to self-host yourself.
    • If you happen to self-host, make sure to check your open ports and secure them. Bots always probing any site in the world!
    • For some reason if you’re going to run sketchy stuff, never use your real credential. This point may not apply on your region as it depends on your local law.
    madcaesar,

    Hm not really sure this answers what I mean. If you are hosting a site, how do you stop corps demanding your name from the hosting provider and going after you?

    Crafter72,
    @Crafter72@lemmy.world avatar

    Sadly for that matter it is more to the legal area.

    For identity they can catch you either from email or the payment info. For email you can make one easily, but for payment search a provider that accept virtual (credit) card, or get something that accept crypto wallet.

    Yeah, online exposure can point you sooner or later depending how motivated the party that seek you.

    GBU_28,

    They need to be using an encrypted platform hosted in a country out of reach of Nintendo

    EngineerGaming,
    @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl avatar

    Not platform. Protocol.

    GBU_28,

    Semantics, given the scope and intention of my comment

    Untitled4774,

    And it’s a million times better for people trying to troubleshoot.

    1 forum post can solve many problems, rather than having to have each person ask in a support chat that’s not searchable.

    IronKrill, (edited )
    @IronKrill@lemmy.ca avatar

    Technically Discord is trying to solve this with their threads feature, but I’ve found either the server owners don’t force it or the users don’t use it. Either way, it sucks.

    meldrik,

    Can’t find the answer via a search engine though. You first have to find out where to look for the answer, before you can ask it.

    merthyr1831,

    The threads/forum feature on discord is just awful. Topics get buried and I think the general ethos of discord encourages people to just spam in the chat channels rather than wait in a forum for help.

    bfg9k,
    @bfg9k@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s so goddamn easy to set up a basic forum site for a few bucks a month, and it’s not like there aren’t hundreds of options for file sharing as well.

    The Xbox and PSP modding forums were where I used to hang out before Reddit, a well-designed and run forum is so much better than trying to basically make a website out of a chat room.

    Cybersteel,
    @Cybersteel@lemmy.world avatar

    I think most of those old forums are gone now.

    daltotron,

    Still not the point of a live-chat application. The use case is not the same as a forum. You want an archive where everything is well-organized and most questions have already been answered. Discord and other live chat services are more like live tech support, to fill the gap between the raw technical documentation found in GitHub, and the just getting started guide or FAQ, which are usually lightweight enough that they could be posted anywhere. Discord doesn’t exist to be an archive that holds all the knowledge, discord exists so that when you open an app, you can go in, ask a couple questions, and hopefully someone will get to you in a couple minutes, at most, rather than in a couple days.

    taiyang, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well

    Side note, is there there a good open source alternative to Discord in terms of it’s exact functionality? (And I don’t mean as a forum alternative, but voice comms and streaming). After their app update, I’m kind of annoyed with them. Yet, my community is rather dependent on them despite their enshittification.

    We got sucked in because you could simply link it to randos on MMOs and if they didn’t want to download an app, could still have voice comms in browser. Before that, we had ventrillo, mumble, etc, but nothing was quite as easy access for randos. But man, they kind of suck lately so… hrm. :/

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Rocket.Chat and Matrix come to mind. The latter’s element client (the default) even looks extremely Discord-ish.

    mnemonicmonkeys,

    There’s Revolt.chat

    bilb, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well
    !deleted4216 avatar

    I hope Nintendo is able to make emulation illegal once and for all and end all this. People really shouldn’t be allowed to run whatever software they want, they should only be allowed to run Microsoft Windows and the fun games they include on the bonus disc

    clubb,
    @clubb@lemmy.world avatar

    Think you forgot the /s

    bilb,
    !deleted4216 avatar

    /s is for cowards! I will never!

    Kecessa,

    They trust people’s intelligence

    mjhelto,
    @mjhelto@lemm.ee avatar

    They really shouldn’t…

    ModernRisk,

    You got me in the first half

    ramjambamalam,

    3D Pinball: Space Cadet for life.

    NocturnalMorning,

    You almost had me 🤣

    FractalsInfinite, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well

    I thought that would happen the moment I saw suyu uses only a discord server. Shame they didn’t use matrix or even IRC

    MajikalMonkey2000,
    @MajikalMonkey2000@kbin.social avatar

    They still should, it would be a great way to highlight how futile Nintendo's efforts are. Unfortunately, there's a good chance they'll just forget about doing live communication like this anymore.

    lowleveldata, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well

    Suyu is a troll project anyway so

    TrickDacy,
    @TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

    Makes sense /s

    9point6, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well

    Why is this much of this a problem for them—discord shouldn’t be an essential piece of the puzzle for an emulator project

    Potentially completing someone’s lemmy bingo card here, but it’s relatively easy to self-host any tools you need

    Pra,
    altima_neo, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    They should just spin up their own Lemmy instance

    Sloogs,

    Yeah, and a Matrix instance

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    They don’t really need a chat though, do they? For their purpose of user-interfacing development and tracking, a forum would be much more useful when coupled with a code hosting system, no?

    Can do bug reporting/tracking and development through the latter, while the former allows discoverable FAQ, dev-to-user and user-to-user support. With chat, the last point is just about impossible plus it’s not discoverable.

    Sloogs,

    I don’t know man, I’m not a doctor. They just had a Discord already so I assume they wanted one.

    metaStatic, do games w Discord Shuts Down Servers for Switch Emulators Suyu & Sudachi; Disables Lead Developers Account As Well

    let me just spin up a subreddit instead and ... WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING?

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s the extra funny part, their subreddit is rock solid since they had it a fair while ago.

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