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Kbin_space_program, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game

Question from someone who plays warframe.

They do their prime bundles for a decent chunk of money. But it's also a really good deal just for the paid currency.
And you can get the same things in game for free.
So how much is the actual item vs the currency?

Bbbbbbbbbbb,

Whatever the in game markets sells it for

Butterpaderp, (edited )

Reading the article, yeah it’s basically a “hey, buy 65$ worth of our virtual money and we’ll throw in this horse armor!” bundle.

There isn’t a way to get it ingame though. I think the only way to actually earn platinum is if you buy and complete the battlepasses.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

There is no ingame market, and Warframe is a free game so it gets more of a pass compared to a paid game charging MORE than a f2p one.

formergijoe, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game

Meanwhile, Helldivers 2’s armor is like 2 bucks, and you can find the currency in-game.

DuckPuppet,

For Democracy!

Mr_Dr_Oink,

Its nice to see a low cost microtransaction, and nice to see that you can get the currency in game but really thats just the same as it was a few years back before it went full 100 dollar for a reskin mode.

You are defending a game by pointing out that its money grabbing methods are less greedy than another company.

Games wont make the billions and billions they make now if they move away from the in game purchases models but they also evidently dont need billions and billions to operate.

Some of the best games on the market were made on small budgets by indie developers and sell well because the are fun and people actually want to play them.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I would argue that on online game kinda needs a stream of revenue that’s doesn’t only come from the first purchase, since that will stagnate.

Alenalda,

Maybe we don’t make every game a live service. Remember halo 2, game was fantastic and no micro transactions in sight if you don’t count xbl.

umbrella, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

i got plenty of hate when i said years ago this is where the mtx slippery slope would get us

Computerchairgeneral, do games w Diablo 4's new mount costs more than the actual game

It's crazy how far micro-transactions and monetizing games have come since Bethesda charged $2.50 for cosmetic armor to put on your horse. If you'd told someone back then that one day an in-game mount would cost more than the game itself they would have laughed you out of the room.

andrew,
@andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

Unless you were in MBA school, at which point they’d hail you as their king.

inclementimmigrant, (edited )

Yeah I remember saying that that Bethesda’s horse armor bs would lead to gamers being nickeled and dimed to death and was soundly called a overreacting whinger.

And like you said here we are now and gamers are being outright exploited and you still have people saying it’s all still blown out of proportion like these companies aren’t hiring psychologists to manipulate us to buy this bullshit.

veroxii,

But they’re not being nickled and dimed. They’re being Lincolned and Hamiltoned.

LunarLoony,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“But it’s only cosmetic!!”

Mereo,

It’s a slippery slope. Money talks. They are accountable to their shareholders. So when they saw that people were paying for them, they started to monetise more and more.

Tarcion,

Some people would have laughed you out of the room. A lot of people, myself included, warned that this was the kind of shit we’d spiral into with these microtransactions. It was basically confirmed within a year or two with the absolutely insane amount of money mobile gaming was seeing where the base product was just addictive crap with as many microtransactions shoveled in as possible. These games just completely blew the revenue of actual AAA titles would out of the water. It was basically inevitable and we’re now in a situation where we’ve got a generation of consumers raised on this trash.

fishos,
@fishos@lemmy.world avatar

I’m so sick of this revisionist bs. Plenty of us were outraged then and warned of EXACTLY this. Y’all reaped what you sowed. Now micro transactions and paid early access are the norm. We screamed and yelled to “vote with your wallets”, and by god, you did. “It’s just a few bucks” is the most common one I hear. Well, now EVERYTHING is “just a few bucks”.

You won.

rustyfish,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

This. That’s why I gave up on arguing with people a long time ago. There is a shimmer of hope in me that this industry still comes crashing down at some point. I would celebrate it. But by the looks of it, it won’t happen anytime soon.

The best I could do is not buying anything on release, early access or riddled with microtransactions, mostly indie games and maybe one AAA title a year, also avoid certain studios. Oh, and also don’t really care at all when these kind of news come up. I cared back then, I voted with my wallet and still do, but the other side won. Shit happens. There is nothing I can do other than get angry, but that’s not worth the hassle.

Adulated_Aspersion,

I’m with you. I buy almost exclusively on-sale games. I try to buy the super-premium editions about a year after release so I can get lots of content for less than the original game costs, and I avoid any p2w or lootbox games altogether.

Do I miss interactions with some friends who only play the latest titles? Absolutely. I have primarily been a single player gamer anyway, so maybe it just doesn’t impact me as terribly.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

A crash is impossible at this point, the market is too big and vast, if AAA dies, mobile will live on like nothing happened, and guess where lootboxes and gacha started…

funktion,

The market has spoken, and it said some real stupid shit. I’ve given up on gaming as a hobby, and good riddance.

TwilightVulpine,

If we trusted the Market to make it good for us, we’d still have children working 16 hour shifts until they get their arms chewed off by machinery and get thrown on the streets to starve.

“Vote with your wallet” is just something business say to try to convince us that regulation isn’t needed, conveniently forgetting to mention that the fattest wallet in the room is the CEO’s.

ParadoxSeahorse,

Horse Armor? How about a jewel-encrusted horse!?

Am I alone in thinking this is a joke that has gone over everyone’s heads? Isn’t it just a sparkly topping on a pile of currency anyway?

mindbleach, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

Pay him or get bent.

Katana314, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

Given some of the fair-use-adjacent fan work the Team Fortress voice actors have done, I sometimes wish there were more fictional characters out there that actors had the rights to represent as outside of media.

I recall interviews where the guy who does Dr Eggman just politely refused simple fun requests because they wouldn’t be approved by Sega, which is too bad.

Cort,

The only example I can think of where that has happened would be Ryan Reynolds & Deadpool. Iirc he kinda just stole the costume after the 1st movie wrapped filming

PowerCrazy, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

What a shame. Maybe he should try getting a job?

Potatos_are_not_friends, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

Makes sense. No need to burn bridges or salt the wound.

Maybe Eidos would love to get another Deus ex out there but there’s no publisher interest. Passionate game developers still need financial backing to pay rent and put food on the table.

And honestly silence is the best policy here. They probably want to stop him from fucking up before he ends up like voice actor who played Niko Bellick and say something that pisses off their parent publishers.

slaacaa,

Yeah, the way he talks about it does not help the chances of a new game with. I can understand the frustration of an artist that is popular worldwide, while sometimes living paycheck to paycheck doing small roles. Still, maybe he should discuss with his agent how to share his views with the press in a more positive way, to avoid biting the hand that might feed him again in the future.

ugo,

Maybe Eidos would love to get another Deus Ex out there but there’s no publisher interest

You know, they could just… Say this, and placate everyone. I’m honestly sick and tired of companies in general, and game companies specifically, being afforded this stupid level of opaqueness.

If you were to talk to someone that would exclusively stonewall you, you’d be quick to stop talking to this person. When it’s game companies though, everyone bends over backwards to try to find justifications for their behavior on their behalf.

Molecular0079,

Exactly. If companies didn’t want their workers and their customers to say stuff and make conjectures on their behalf, then they should communicate about it.

Rom, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more
@Rom@hexbear.net avatar

What a rotten way to die.

BumbleBeeButt,

“If you want to make enemies, try to change something.” - Adam Jensen

ArmokGoB,

He was a good man.

PunnyName, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

Dammit Eidos! Gimme Jensen 3!

DragonTypeWyvern,

Jensen 3:

Now You’re Asking For It

SkybreakerEngineer, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more

They asked for this

bionicjoey,

He never asked them to ask him for this.

MentalEdge, do gaming w Deus Ex star says that Eidos asked him not to talk about Adam Jensen in public any more
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Stop reminding them we used to be able to do better.

onlooker, do gaming w Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League adds Denuvo DRM before launch
@onlooker@lemmy.ml avatar

With all the negative press this game has been getting, they might as well rename it to Suicide Squad Kill Rocksteady Studios.

ChallengeApathy, do gaming w Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League adds Denuvo DRM before launch

If a game uses Denuvo, I refuse to buy it. It’s unacceptable.

SatouKazuma, do gaming w Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League adds Denuvo DRM before launch
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

How to kill that which was already dead…

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