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9point6, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'

At this point, I’m just looking at all this as an interesting social experiment on sunk cost fallacy

I wonder how long they can go without delivering on anything

reksas,

well, they are still slowly actually adding more stuff to the game. I dont think they intend to scam anyone since they occasionally allow people to play the game for free and without that i would have been inclined to buy it many times now to see what kind of game it is (and would have felt scammed). Now i just keep waiting for them to add enough stuff for the game to be worth getting, but after hearing they might add somekind of p2w shop crap i think i might just forget about the whole thing if it really bad.

Its too bad if the game collapses at some point since it really has promise. I resent them for first fucking around with the money they were given and making it all seem like a scam even when there is potential for it to not be.

homoludens,

Its too bad if the game collapses at some point since it really has promise.

No one denies the game has promise. The problem is that it does not have much else. Having ideas is the easy part in game development.

reksas,

the promise i see comes from things that are actually in the game. Though it still needs more to be worthwhile, so i’m not risking my money yet. They just need to add more fun things to do and fix the problems with what they already have and it would already be kind of ok, provided they keep adding stuff.

Greddan,

The times I’ve had with this game over the years I feel is well worth the cost of dinner at an fairly upscale restaurant or a night out drinking.

Carighan,
@Carighan@piefed.world avatar

I think the fact that they are very very glacially slowly delivering on things at least, all the while self-discovering software development instead of learning it, that aggravates me even more. Bloober Team could finish this faster and more competently than these clowns...

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Glacially is OVERstating how much and how quickly.

Especially compared to their original predictions.

azertyfun,

It’s not even about predictions or estimations - everything’s so many years late everyone stopped counting. They just… don’t seem to understand “scoping”? The pitch is “ultra-realistic life-size universe sandbox simulation” and they keep hitting walls because they’re using tech that’s completely inadequate for the task at hand but they won’t let that deter them. They’ve probably reimplemented every subsystem of the Crysis 3 engine a dozen times by now, and it’s still not anywhere near capable of achieving even a tenth of their ambitions. Fuck, they just very recently got their server meshing thing barely working after like a decade of development (at the cost of rewriting everything again of course).

It’s like watching a team raising billions to build the Burj Khalifa but all they have is a bunch of dry sand and some spoons. Deadlines aren’t really the issue.

dustyData,

We already know what happens with long term sunk cost fallacy. It is a scam.

NuXCOM_90Percent, (edited ) do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'

As a very early backer of S42 way back in apparently 2012: It never ceases to annoy me that The Wing Commander Guy has once again managed to do everything possible to NOT make a fucking Wing Commander. This is, what, the third big clusterfuck and the first one where there was nobody to take it away from him and just finish it themselves? But, whatever.

As a big fan of elite games: I am really glad star citizen “exists” to contrast Elite Dangerous and has led to some truly amazing games in the genre. Some of which actually ARE more Wing Commander than not (Everspace 2 is basically the Freelancer that was promised). Now we just need some studio to make a proper Freespace game.

All that said: I don’t like it but I weirdly keep coming back to the thought process that Star Citizen actually IS delivering on its “promise” to the backers… of the past decade or so. Not the OGs. Fuck us.

Because they were never sold on actually playing a game. They were sold on a dream. It is the same logic by which you watch Aisha Tyler do VO for a Tom Clancy game and think that you and your friends are also going to be super sweaty tier seven operators. Or how you watch your favorite group of online youtubers read off their pre-written jokes and pretend to be shocked while playing “friendslop” games. Or… you are a non-sicko who read too many AARs of Dwarf Fortress and thought you would boatmurder too.

Its the idea of spending money to Dream. You know you’ll never actually do what you saw the pretty people do. But you THINK you will and, by owning a copy of Garry’s Mod that you will never boot up, you think you will too.

Obviously the star citizen heads are spending WAY more than 20 bucks a pop and some are buying multiple megaships they’ll never use meaningfully. But it is hard to not see parallels to the people who buy a DCS plane because they want to pretend that one day they will learn how to fly that jet.

And… truth be told, I think I’ve gotten my money’s worth out of the annual charity streams where Drew Scanlon (The Blinking White Guy) and Vinny Caravella attempt to play Star Citizen and spend an hour or two crashing to desktop, getting confused, and accomplishing absolutely nothing. Hell, I think there were a few years where they never even found each other in the space station?


Also, as much as Freelancer hurt, I’ll never stop laughing/being annoyed that he managed to take a sci-fi movie starring Freddie Prinze Jr AND Baby Busey AND Matthew Lillard and turn it into a charisma-free void with no redeeming qualities. Like, you gotta put some fricking effort into that. Those guys could make reading the dictionary be entertaining.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

As a big fan of elite games: I am really glad star citizen “exists” to contrast Elite Dangerous and has led to some truly amazing games in the genre.

Elite Dangerous has its faults, but goddamn, did it pull something epic and historical with a ten-years-in-the-making final event.

Ileftreddit, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'

Bro running the greatest grift on earth not counting the crypto market

kureta, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'

I was this 🤏 close to buying squadron 42 years ago, as it was just about to get released. dodged that bullet.

psx_crab,

42 years ago

I heard it’s been in development for a long time but didn’t know it’s this long.

pyre,

this is why you should buy games that are released

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Right. Never pre-order games. Ever.

zipzoopaboop, do games w 'An embarrassing failure of the US patent system': Videogame IP lawyer says Nintendo's latest patents on Pokémon mechanics 'should not have happened, full stop'

The US patent system IS a colossal failure, of course it spits out failures

VitoRobles,

Well it also spits out lawsuits and lawsuits on top of those lawsuits.

And then a bunch of people get rich.n

Wilco, do games w 'An embarrassing failure of the US patent system': Videogame IP lawyer says Nintendo's latest patents on Pokémon mechanics 'should not have happened, full stop'

Someone in the patent office got bribed.

AngryRobot,

This entire regime is for sale. Top to bottom.

ZILtoid1991,

Get ready for “anti-woke” Nintendo games!

EldenLord,
daniskarma, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'

When this game is released the setting is going to be ancient history.

Bonesince1997,

Space, the we already did that frontier.

brsrklf,

It’s a bit fun to imagine that. People of the future playing a game that would be sci-fi to us, but really to them it’s like Oregon Trail.

ZoteTheMighty, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'

After much careful reflection on this news, here is my response: HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I think I could have written this headline 6 years ago.

pyre, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'
Banzai51, do gaming w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'
@Banzai51@midwest.social avatar

Just 2 years, Turkish!

CubitOom, (edited ) do games w 'An embarrassing failure of the US patent system': Videogame IP lawyer says Nintendo's latest patents on Pokémon mechanics 'should not have happened, full stop'
@CubitOom@infosec.pub avatar

I can’t wait to play Elden Ring 2 when it’s made by Nintendo because Elden Ring used summoning and now only runs at 12 fps.

FerretyFever0,

Nintendo also owns the rights to platformers, racing games, and rpgs. Tough luck, that's just how it is.

Valmond,

NPC dialogs? Owned by Nintendo too.

Atherel,

Hey listen!

ShaggySnacks,

Did you pay for that parent use?

PacMan,
altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Don’t forget alarm clocks

addie,
@addie@feddit.uk avatar

Or ‘love hotels’. You want to rent a room by the hour, Mario gets his cut.

Anivia,

If it was made by Nintendo (not Gamefreak) it would actually be optimized

CubitOom,
@CubitOom@infosec.pub avatar

If by optimized you mean removing most details and adding a cartoon filter over it.

https://infosec.pub/pictrs/image/4b840016-edd6-4107-9699-c882d0be1061.jpeg

Vs

https://infosec.pub/pictrs/image/516ec639-0810-4fda-b92e-572bc9286fae.jpeg

Terrible legal practices aside.

glitchdx,

Nintendo deserves a lot of shit for their business decisions, but not for their art directions. windwaker and sunshine still look good to this day by simply appling higher resolutions and some anti aliasing. No game with “realistic graphics” has ever stood the test of time.

CubitOom,
@CubitOom@infosec.pub avatar

No game with “realistic graphics” has ever stood the test of time.

Hahahahahahaha

Auli,

Which ones still look good a decade later.

vaultdweller013,

Shadow of the Colossus is what 20 years old? It’s pretty much as realistic as the PS2 could handle and still looks decent.

CubitOom,
@CubitOom@infosec.pub avatar

You can’t use logic here, it’s a waste of time. They already made up their minds and even assigned a maliciously litigious multibillion dollar corporation to their internal identity.

The best response is to point and laugh.

glitchdx,

the fuck is wrong with you

IvyisAngy, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'

I’ve spent hardly any money on that game. I did the first 20 bucks. Then a 15 to get a tiny mining ship to help get in-game money. But I wouldn’t have even gotten it if it wasn’t for my partner REALLY liking the “game.”

I might like it too… if it actually worked and every bug I’ve ever encountered being perfect for setting all my progress to zero or even backwards. Because you have to buy supplies to do a mission.

So fuck that. I’m not playing it until I can make progress- which will be never.

P1nkman, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'

It’ll be released when the original backer’s grandchildren have kids 😂

TheMinions,

My old boss was a backer back when he had a young child.

That child is now in high school.

💀

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

I remember hearing this joke in 2020.

brsrklf,

Joke?

Gerudo, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'

You know, when they mentioned 8k textures 10 years ago, I laughed because it was so overshooting gaming standards that it was laughable. Now I’m think they will be just on track when it actually launches.

brsrklf,

By the time they launch, they’ll have a game with 8k textures and everyone else will be releasing games for Star Trek’s holodeck.

sp3ctr4l, do games w Star Citizen fans sigh deeply, rub their foreheads as developer casts doubt on Squadron 42's 2026 release: 'I don't know if we're going to make it'

Scam Shitizen.

I guess if it’s any consolation, our real world space efforts are also largely even more behind schedule than usual, thanks Elon.

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