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banichan, do games w [PCGamer] Helldivers 2 is the least I've felt pressured to spend money on a game in years, so of course I'm buying everything in the store
@banichan@lemmy.world avatar

Wish I could play

excitingburp,

Instantly refunded when I entered a queue.

Jackhammer_Joe,

Good, less queue for the rest of us 😎

btw: there are no more queues

Cordyceps,

Picked the game up yesterday. No queues, but the matchmaker is still having trouble filling pubgs. Also running into massive CPU utilization straight at start of game, and with Nvidia recommended graphic settings im getting dips to 25fps in some missions. Hopefully the technical patch is not too far away.

avater,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

What card are you running, performance turns out to be pretty decent. I run this on a Radeon 6950 and on 1440p with everything on high and fsr on quality, I get 120+ fps on average. Or is this game more in favor of amd cards ?

pycorax,

To be fair if you have a 6950 XT that’s not much you can throw at it where it doesn’t run well.

ChicoSuave,

Weak willed

therealjcdenton,

Good choice. Only game where a queue can be understood is in something like FXIV where everyone is in one server and not instanced

therealjcdenton, do games w [PCGamer] Helldivers 2 is the least I've felt pressured to spend money on a game in years, so of course I'm buying everything in the store

Why is there content in the game I paid for that I can’t access without paying even more?

okamiueru,

If you are genuinely asking, I can play Devil’s advocate:

Because then they can set the price at 40 USD, making it more affordable, and possibly make back the difference with some (mostly) cosmetic premium content.

This is not so easy to argue for games that are sold at 70 USD, and premium content is much more tied to gameplay, and all the FOMO dark patterns are turned to max.

Evotech,

Helldivers barely have enough content to justify 40 bucks. It makes up for it in presentation though

blegeg,

Why I think people are praising the helldivers2 monetization is that isn’t the case. The “premium currency” is earnable in game and at a reasonable. I haven’t bought any but still have the battlepass and a few of the premium armors.

You get it as part of the battlepass, and the gameplay loop guides you to the currency. You’ll be looking for ammo or in game currency, and there also happens to be premium currency sometimes. The battlepass not being timed and on a work at your own pace is great too.

It feels fair to me? Like the developer can still make a buck but not ruin the experience. I.e. the monetization lets people pay to instantly gratify if they want vs punish you for not spending.

therealjcdenton,

That fact that you have the option is the problem

Shape4985, do games w [PCGamer] Helldivers 2 is the least I've felt pressured to spend money on a game in years, so of course I'm buying everything in the store
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I’ve already given up on online games. I don’t enjoy them like i use too a few years back and endlessly grinding doesn’t come close to the satisfaction of actually finishing a game. My friend streamed some of this to convince me to get it, the gameplay looked bland and he clipped through the map and had to start the mission again. I think ill stick to finishing my backlog of single player games.

Vrijgezelopkamers, do games w [PCGamer] Helldivers 2 is the least I've felt pressured to spend money on a game in years, so of course I'm buying everything in the store
@Vrijgezelopkamers@lemmy.world avatar

No. This is not a “creative” way to nudge us towards the store. Definitely not. It’s just the type of monetization every gamer has been secretly yearning for, right?

avater, do games w [PCGamer] Helldivers 2 is the least I've felt pressured to spend money on a game in years, so of course I'm buying everything in the store
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

nope. game is good, but i’m not interested in the ingame store.

dlpkl,

You can find supercredits on missions. I’ve unlocked the premium battlepass and bought some armor without spending a dime of real money.

avater, (edited )
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I know, still not interested in any battlepasses, never was. I usually quit as soon as any game start their “Season of the…” crap and return to my evergreen Guild Wars 2.

I also got me a decent looking outfit already and the stats fit my playstyle, so I’m pretty much playing the game for fun now with no interest in any additional unlocks besides stratagems and ship upgrades.

Lol the downvotes…

dlpkl,

Ah I get you. Just so you know, the battlepasses are more like level unlocks than typical battlepasses, but you probably know that. Also, old battlepasses that you didn’t finish or even start will stay in the game permanently, so don’t feel like there’s a rush to finish them.

Tedrow,
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You are not using war bonds? I’m very confused. This is how you unlock more gear and you don’t have to pay for anything.

Also all of their war bond passes stay with you forever, you don’t have to finish them before season is over or whatever.

avater, (edited )
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

Im using warbonds, just not the premium stuff since nothing there I desire and I don’t search the map for that currency.

Tedrow,
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Ah ok. I was worried that you were locking yourself out of the progression system. That makes sense.

ChicoSuave,

Premium currency is freely available on missions and it’s not hard to accrue enough to make frequent buys in the money store without spending a cent. The problem becomes the amount of time I spend in game, which doesn’t feel like a problem.

sirico, do games w [PCGamer] Helldivers 2 is the least I've felt pressured to spend money on a game in years, so of course I'm buying everything in the store
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Reads like they have an issue

Sanctus, do games w [PCGamer] Helldivers 2 is the least I've felt pressured to spend money on a game in years, so of course I'm buying everything in the store
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If its the latest game you’ve played that doesnt you should look at Beyond All Reason. Its free and open source. No season passes or mtx of any kind.

HeyJoe,

I just looked and I may give it a try. Looks good. It’s worth mentioning it’s in Alpha, some people don’t enjoy trying to play games that early on and it explains why it’s free.

dumpsterlid,

Beyond All Reason is a Spring Engine game which is an open source rts engine that has been in development for probably a decade and a half at this point.

Cossty, do games w [PCGamer] Helldivers 2 is the least I've felt pressured to spend money on a game in years, so of course I'm buying everything in the store

I didnt know single player games are not made anymore.

NakariLexfortaine, do games w Finally, a farm sim that will let me date hot demons and also collect capybaras

But I want to collect hot demons and date capybaras.

The demons can bring us oranges while we enjoy the water.

caut_R, (edited ) do games w Finally, a farm sim that will let me date hot demons and also collect capybaras

Went from not knowing this game to becoming my most anticipated this year

Cagi, do games w [PCGamer] Helldivers 2 is the least I've felt pressured to spend money on a game in years, so of course I'm buying everything in the store

I feel this way too. You find premium currency laying around all over the place. You can buy everything in the store and the premium warbond for free if explore around as you play, just like any of the other in-game currencies.

Argurotoxus, do games w Fans of Pokémon-inspired MMO Temtem are arguing with the developer about what MMO means after Crema CEO says it's 'not feasible' to keep adding content forever
@Argurotoxus@lemmy.world avatar

Unfortunately Temtem is a terrible game entirely due to Crema’s incompetence.

It’s actually impressive how consistently they make horrible decisions. If I had to summarize their attitude, it’s that you can’t criticize them because “Hey, we’re human, we make mistakes and when you criticize us it hurts our feelings”. And when I say you can’t, I mean it literally. They will suspend or ban you from whatever platform it is for saying anything they perceive as negative.

They take an “us vs them” attitude with their player base which results in the equivalent of Crema stuffing their fingers in their ears saying LALALALALA YOU’RE WRONG WE’RE RIGHT.

It’s a shame, because the foundation of the game, the battle system, is genius and a huge improvement over Pokémon. The game showed real promise for a long time. But Crema has been dropping the ball with every update for years and it’s long since entered its death spiral.

simple,

Yup. Played it in early access for a bit and enjoyed it, then I played it on release and hated it. There are so many promises they completely ignored, including an option to make battle animations faster (their response was “it would change the economy if everything was faster”)

They added a battle pass

They made everything you can buy with in-game money outrageously expensive so you buy it from their FOMO rotating cash store

Their definition of “MMO” is making the game so insanely grindy to try to keep players around for hundreds of hours despite obviously not being worth spending that much time in…

And so on and so forth. Crema are so unbelievably greedy and dumb it still hurts that I gave them money.

ramsgrl909, do games w Fans of Pokémon-inspired MMO Temtem are arguing with the developer about what MMO means after Crema CEO says it's 'not feasible' to keep adding content forever

I just started playing with 2 friends. I’m not too upset there won’t be more content (though I know that going in unlike the OG players). What really bothers me is there are easy updates they can make to create a better user experience. The UI doesn’t feel crisp & the animations can be sped up (or skipped) for starters.

RoverRacecar, do games w Fans of Pokémon-inspired MMO Temtem are arguing with the developer about what MMO means after Crema CEO says it's 'not feasible' to keep adding content forever

Doesn’t this game not have an offline mode?

Noodle07,

Yup

Dudewitbow, do games w Fans of Pokémon-inspired MMO Temtem are arguing with the developer about what MMO means after Crema CEO says it's 'not feasible' to keep adding content forever

the small detail is forgotten that those MMOs have a subscription model or are free but with pay-to-win practices. They are sustainable in that way."

horizontal progression mmos like ESO or GW2 that arent subs arent either of those.

Aurix,

You could call ESO pay-to-win to fit this definition, because there is new content added as subscription or paid. There will be new gear sets offering effectively an advantage for many builds and some new skills.

Dudewitbow,

in horizontal progression, changes in things are typically sidegrades in progress, as you trade off one thing for another, compared to having a higher level equipment with higher stats in a vertically progressed MMO. New builds can be created via patches, but they aren’t necessarily straight upgrades from the existing ones.

lorty,
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GW2 has a huge cash shop of cosmetics, to the point you can barely get any by just playing.

Dudewitbow,

if that’s your definition of “winning” then you have a different way of playing mmos.The most expensive cosmetics in the game are ridiculously low drop rate infusions that surpass the cost of virtually anything in the shop directly.

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