gamesindustry.biz

KickMeElmo, do games w Has Unity repaired the damage done by its Runtime Fee plans?

“lol no”

Aurenkin,

Ah yes, classic Betteridge’s law of headlines.

Betteridge’s law of headlines is an adage that states: “Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the words ‘lol no’.”

echodot,

A favourite of reactionist right-wing press.

Are immigrants sneaking into your home in the middle of the night and licking your children?

Well they should be. Lazy bums.

idiomaddict,

Listen, I’m licking as many kids as I can, but I’m just one immigrant!

ChaoticEntropy, do games w Has Unity repaired the damage done by its Runtime Fee plans?
@ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

Fully repaired and improved upon!

Said no one, ever.

Ghyste, do games w Has Unity repaired the damage done by its Runtime Fee plans?

No.

Sanctus, do games w PS Plus price hike: We'll all pay for a subscription-based future | Opinion
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

What is this we shit? Subscriptions for online is why I ditched consoles because I’m already paying a subscription for internet access.

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s free for online. Any access to game catalogs is a subscription tier.

aubertlone,

I’m sorry, but free for online multiplayer is only a thing for consoles if the game itself is f2p

So you can play apex or ow2 multiplayer on your console for “free” but any other game that isn’t explicitly f2p, you will need an online subscription like ps plus/ Xbox live etc

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

What do you mean by that? I am so confused.

My subscription expired months ago and I play all sorts of games, even some that I downloaded free before my subscription ended that arent in the store anymore. Are those all free to play? If so, what is an example of a non f2p game?

aubertlone,

I’m not sure what you mean…

Can you give examples of the games you’re talking about?

So free to play games are things like Fortnite, halo infinite, overwatch, etc. Usually multiplayer based games. Even on console, you can play online multiplayer for those games without an xbox live or ps plus subscription.

Most games don’t follow this model. Take FIFA for example. You can buy the game and play it on console. But if you want to play online multiplayer, you will need to have an Xbox live/pls plus subscription for that.

Obviously there is nothing like this for pc games. Except for mmos or something like that, online multiplayer doesn’t require a subscription.

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

Sure, here is a list of some games that are still playable and accessible online even though I no longer pay for any subscription:

-Master Hunter World -Wolfenstein II -Grand Theft Auto V -Watch Dogs Legion -Resident Evil VII -Last of Us -God of War

There are a few more, but some I assume fall into that category, like COD. I do get a frequent notice encouraging me to subscribe or I may not be able to access some features or games but I have yet to run into that with existing stuff.

aubertlone,

I mean, that doesn’t really make any sense but good for you for somehow keeping access. 👍

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

Update, it still doesn’t make sense but now I have no access. The moment I signed into the store and bought Baldurs Gate 3, I lost access to all my games offline or on. How I was able to previously play unsigned in is beyond me. Probably accepted some update when signing in and was previously grandfathered into really old terms would be my only guess.

newthrowaway20,

Yeah none of those give me free online access after I cancelled my subscription. You sure you aren’t still enrolled through the remainder of your subscription period? If you cancel renewal, you still have access till the end date is up on your previous purchase.

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

I am not sure what’s going on to be honest, I guess I should count myself lucky and hope Sony doesn’t catch on. I have no payment linked, so it’s not auto-pay and the subscription ended like 2 months ago. I checked my wife’s account and she has no subscription linked either. I can’t access any new games or content needed with a subscription obviously, but current stuff mysteriously still works… I wish I had downloaded more games, I thought that they would have been inaccessible after the sub ended.

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

So update! I just had to sign in to buy Balders Gate. Now none of my games work that I previously downloaded, offline or on. So weird. Wish I played through a few of those before connecting.

newthrowaway20,

Damn they figured you out lol

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

So once your subscription ends, just never sign into the PSN again. That seems to be the trick…

DeriHunter, do games w More than 37m people may be eligible for compensation after Epic vs FTC settlement

Their child made charges to a credit card without parental knowledge or consent between January 2017 to November 2018

How can you prove that the purchase made by your child and not you?

dudewitbow,

It world definately be hard to prove it. One would be purchases made while actively playing the game, and if you had an alibi by being at work or something as a parent, and the network/ip used to be purchase it doesnt match the network at work, at least the general area.

Theyll probably find a way.

DeriHunter,

Yeah that a good alibi if it was purchased early and you can prove that you’ve been in the office at that time. What happens if it happen in the evening, and a lot of people are from home so its not a strong argument. Uterine what they’ll do in this situation

dudewitbow,

Hence one, my example doesnt cover all situations, and definately not my job to look for the cover of all situations.

DeriHunter,

Didn’t exacted you to provide answers, as you said it’s not your job :) I was just wondering and engaged with a conversation

Pons_Aelius, do games w More than 37m people may be eligible for compensation after Epic vs FTC settlement

Part of the settlement requirements should be that Epic has to contact every account that is eligible to inform them of this.

Otherwise, as with so many suits and class actions like this, most will never know they are entitled to compensation.

SlowNPC,
@SlowNPC@kbin.social avatar

I'd hate to miss out on my $0.86

Pons_Aelius,

It is closer to $7 per account, still not a massive amount but...

If you don't get it, someone must get the $245M.

The law firm will happily accept it as admin fees instead.

Mr_D_Umbguy,

That process is typically part of the class action suit/settlement. It often comes with a binding agreement that by participating you are waiving your right to seek compensatory damages individually.

MortyMcFry, do games w Over 500 developers join Unity protest against Runtime Fee policy
@MortyMcFry@aussie.zone avatar

The rest are off learning godot

paulcdb,

This is the problem!

Yes, i’m sure it’s a lot of work to move game engines but time and time again it’s the same story. Closed source anything is free until the easy money has been sucked up so why even bother with anything closed source?

Sooner society stops feeding the greed, hopefully the sooner we get back to a sustainable society!

Sadly i’m not sure it’ll happen in my life! 😞

Piemanding,

Part of the problem are the stockholders who expect the shares to go up in price every time. If it starts dipping down enough a huge portion of them will pull their shares and bankrupt the company. This causes companies to mostly think in the short term cause it’s better to make a bit more money than be bankrupt.

Patches,

So to be clear “part of the problem” is the functional basis for our entire economical system. What exactly is the other part?

halcyoncmdr, do games w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

Who is Unity to decide what a charity is? National governments already categorize them.

AntBas, do gaming w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"
ag_roberston_author,
!deleted4201 avatar

It was 2000 shares, he’s already sold like 50k in the last year. Nothing sinister about it.

Truck_kun,

deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • Ropianos, (edited )
    @Ropianos@feddit.de avatar

    How else do you want to handle a CEO owning stock? From his perspective: He sees hard times coming for Unity so he sells his stock. At the same time he tries to turn the situation around, uncertain if he will succeed.

    And AFAIK the trades are public so everyone would know that the CEO is sceptical about the company’s future. There are obviously problems with the ToS changes but is the stock selling really all that relevant in this discussion?

    draecas,

    He sees hard times coming for Unity so he sells his stock.

    This is called insider trading, using his inside knowledge of the company to buy/sell shares before material information becomes public.

    Ropianos,
    @Ropianos@feddit.de avatar

    The selling was planned a long time ago right? I think the main problem here is a CEO owning stock in the first place. If he owns stock he will obviously sell it when he no longer thinks it’s a good investment. And if it’s planned some time ahead it’s not exactly inside knowledge. At least I don’t think that this is a bad case of insider trading.

    CaptObvious, do games w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"

    Unity simply cannot stop shooting themselves in the foot, can they? Bless their hearts. (I’m a Southerner.)

    Comment105, (edited )

    I’ve heard people correct this as “Unity didn’t shoot themselves in the foot, they shot themselves in the chest.”

    And I agree, they didn’t just fuck up and get badly hurt. They’re dead. On life support if they’re lucky.

    Nobody sane will trust this company with their work now.

    CaptObvious,

    Agreed on all counts.

    orrk,

    I don’t care what anyone else says, I think they are a standup company, in their own way. (also a southerner)

    CaptObvious,

    Unity? Or Planned Parenthood?

    orrk,

    Unity of course, planned parenthood actually does decent work.

    elouboub, do games w Devs on Unity Runtime Fee: "The trust is gone forever"
    @elouboub@kbin.social avatar

    "Trust" won't matter if they just continue writing new games in it.

    Hardeehar,

    Who would want to write new games for a company that can just screw you later?

    ChaoticEntropy,
    @ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

    Not just “can” but, from statements from the CEO, still plan to… just a little later.

    elouboub, (edited )
    @elouboub@kbin.social avatar

    Probably enough people to keep Unity afloat. Let's be honest, who's going to reskill their gamedevs to learn Godot or some other game engine? Decision makers will probably spend more money on trying to find ways around the problem than actually solving it aka using another game engine.
    It's what they do.

    experbia, do games w Devs on Unity Runtime Fee: "The trust is gone forever"
    @experbia@kbin.social avatar

    this is a wake-up call to this industry and any other industry enjoying a glut of "free" (as in beer) proprietary tools owned entirely by private (or worse: public!) organizations.

    this will always be the result. every single time. if you think you and your industry are immune to getting bait & switched, you are very wrong.

    chaining your livelihood to a for-profit organization is begging to eventually be extorted in this manner. greed is inevitable.

    echodot,

    Ok so firstly it’s not free, people pay for it, and secondly you act like there’s an alternative. You use the products that are available, if there isn’t a free product available or the free product that is available isn’t very good you don’t have a choice.

    For a long time Unity was basically the only game in town other the Source but that was very old no one really used it.

    dandi8,

    I'm more in favor of Godot, but Unreal/UDK has been a thing for a long while, so it's not true that Unity was 'the only game in town' for a long time.

    elshandra,

    Yeah unreal came out waaaaay before unity. UT lan game nostalgia.

    skulkingaround,

    Unreal was obscenely expensive and way more difficult until UE4 though, long after unity had gained traction.

    echodot, do games w Devs on Unity Runtime Fee: "The trust is gone forever"

    They keep making it worse.

    Every time it looks like it’s starting to calm down the idiot CEO comes out and makes a bunch of inflammatory comments and tells everybody it’s their fault for being confused or somebody actually asks for an exemption and they deny it on made up grounds.

    It would actually be better if they just fired the CEO and try to blame everything on him. That is literally their only move at this point.

    Doorbook, (edited )

    Is he the same guy who trash talk the employee a while back?

    In 2019, he said:

    “Ferrari and some of the other high-end car manufacturers still use clay and carving knives. It’s a very small portion of the gaming industry that works that way, and some of these people are my favourite people in the world to fight with – they’re the most beautiful and pure, brilliant people. They’re also some of the biggest f*cking idiots,” Riccitiello told PG in the interview."

    filcuk,

    I … what? Clay is great for quick and cheap prototyping. What point was he even trying to make?

    commissar_whiskers, do games w Devs on Unity Runtime Fee: "The trust is gone forever"

    Didn’t they see Hasbro trying the same thing? Sure, DnD itself is doing fine, but they lost the trust of third party publishers.

    Gullible,

    Could I get a digestible version of the dnd drama? I could never parse what was happening.

    snooggums,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    DnD 5e had a license for use that allowed 3rd party companies to make stuff for the game following specific rules, and they did so which of course helped with increasing the popularity of the brand. This license existed due to the backlash from players and 3rd party developers who did not like the 4e licensing which was ridiculously restrictive.

    Then WotC/Hasbro decided they wanted more control and put out a draconian revision and also tried to invalidate the existing license using questionable legal logic that wouldn't stand up in court, but would be cost prohibitive for the 3rd party companies to fight in court. This revision also included licensing costs that would drive 3rd party companies out of business. Then they did a revision that tried to make creating a virtual tabletop that could be used with DnD a violation to try and corner the market for WotC's completely non-existent virtual tabletop.

    Basically they tried to stop doing the thing they had in place for like a decade to milk an unrealistically high amount of money out of companies that were working with them and tried to force this on extremely short notice. So same thing as reddit and now Unity are doing.

    Expect the next version of DnD to be a walled garden again like 4e was and most likely fade out of the public view again.

    AngryCommieKender,

    The true irony here is that TSR went bankrupt because they tried to mess with the community content licenses that were basically gentleman’s agreements at the time, allowing WotC to purchase D&D in the first place with 3rd edition. I hope they sell the property to someone that understands how to run that golden goose, without expecting unlimited growth.

    friek,

    Paizo. Been playing Pathfinder for years.

    AngryCommieKender,

    Paizo wouldn’t exist for over a decade when TSR sold D&D to WotC. Try again.

    commissar_whiskers,

    And it’s not just me right? This is similar. Revising existing licensing to squeeze more money out of people who already use their back end.

    cupcakezealot, do gaming w Unity reportedly told dev Planned Parenthood and children's hospital are "not valid charities"
    @cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Unreal about to have a really good October.

  • Wszystkie
  • Subskrybowane
  • Moderowane
  • Ulubione
  • muzyka
  • rowery
  • test1
  • esport
  • Technologia
  • FromSilesiaToPolesia
  • fediversum
  • ERP
  • krakow
  • shophiajons
  • NomadOffgrid
  • informasi
  • retro
  • Travel
  • Spoleczenstwo
  • gurgaonproperty
  • Psychologia
  • Gaming
  • slask
  • nauka
  • sport
  • niusy
  • antywykop
  • Blogi
  • lieratura
  • motoryzacja
  • giereczkowo
  • warnersteve
  • Wszystkie magazyny