I heard that game has a really bad problem with cheaters. Addressing that seems like it would take precedence over getting the game on Steam. You only get one shot to make a first impression and all.
there are no online games that don't have a cheating problem. but there are many online games that don't have anywhere near as bad of a cheating problem as EFT.
Is that not just a reflection of how popular it is and the incentives that players have to not lose and not just the desire to win? As opposed to a deathmatch or ranked game, you actually lose stuff when you lose in this game, right? Is there anything you could reasonably ask of this developer that isn’t just inevitable for this game design?
Install a singleplayer mod that allows you to progress at your own pace and know that all of your faults were not because of cheaters (SPT), but I don’t think those changes could be rectified in the PvP game.
There’s not a cheating problem at all in Rocket League. Literally the only multiplayer game I’ve never seen or even heard of someone cheating in. Not even sure how you would when client side things won’t even help play the game (even an aimbot for the ball would end up being a hindrance) and everything important is handled server side.
I'm too lazy to look it up right now but there have definitely been cheaters in Rocket League. The fact that it isn't a shooter is actually made it easy to cheat in; when there's no precedent for what cheating even looks like, how do you spot it? I remember a few years ago there was a whole scandal where it turned out someone who was famous for making trickshots had some kind of bot that was able to calculate exactly how to hit the ball midair and send it into the goal.
There are several exposé videos on cheating in Rocket League. Here's one by Sunless Khan on "Jimmy" who was on trick shot team but he was actually editing the data of replay files to produce his clips.
Another one by Wayton Pilkin on account boosting, DDoSing servers to cause legit players to have their connection dropped allowing the cheater to win by forfeit, and cheaters using invisible cars.
The clip thing doesn’t affect anything in a game ever, at all. I didn’t question boosting or DDOSing the servers; that shit has an effect on the game. The first thing doesn’t. Not even remotely.
You boost yourself to a level you can’t actually compete in and just fuck up the game for your team mates. It’s the exact opposite problem smurfing creates.
Right. The guy who faked clips boosted his skills to a level he couldn't actually compete in. He was scouted to be part of a pro team and was kicked after they realized his videos were faked.
That was the point of my question, to be honest. I don't understand. Cheating in a single player game to experience it I get. Unlimited ammo, all unlocks, that kind of thing - it lets the game be played differently. But against other players it seems completely pointless from my perspective.
I agree with you, but there are people who enjoy moving over others’ sandcastles more than making their own. Some people enjoy ruining things for others. Others believe everyone else is cheating too, and their cheating is evening the playing field. The latter is a very common defense when asked directly.
Several content creators lose to cheaters and manage to interview the blatant cheaters who admit to it. There are also relatively popular YouTubers whose entire channels are accusing pro players and streamers of cheating in COD and games. Lots of people assume good players are all cheating, and that it’s approved (if not facilitated) by the developers. (Which is a necessary belief for them, considering these players will also often perform very well on LAN tournaments against other pros.)
There’s a pretty massive item market for this game to use real money for in-game items, where the seller will meet you in a match and drop the gear. So there’s a big financial incentive for people from third world countries to hack so they can quickly acquire valuable items to sell on that market.
There isnt actually a way to make functional anticheat as long as its playable on your own device. Its pointless to try and a waste of money. The only way is banning offenders and premium/custom matchmaking.
The cheating problem is off the charts. There was a really good video of someone who investigated how bad it was, and found that about 50% of players were using wallhacks. of matches will have a hacker.
I played it for a couple months. The gunplay was pretty impressive, but the cheaters made it incredibly frustrating, and after seeing that video, I uninstalled and never looked back.
It’s likely around 30% total player base, and out of ten man raid your going to have likely 1 to 3. As cheaters like to squad up. It’s very common for large cheat discords to have fuck loads of people grouping up
The game is very fun and the loop is quite addictive, but PvE is probably the best thing that has happened to it in a long time. The AI needs minor tweaking, but not playing against other people and cheaters is so great. Being able to play with friends makes it fun.
Till it hit steam, you have to go to a Russian website. Pay Russian company using a sketchy payment processor on a barely functional website with extremely poor security measures to use. A Homebrew janky launcher that barely works.
Out of a lobby of 10 people 3 likely are cheating. Every person who’s ever cheated to show videos of their games has this experience. My own first hand try at cheating shows this.
The game literally is one of the most cheated in shooters there is.
I don’t understand why the game would get played at all if it was full of cheaters like this. how could that be fun? especially with something that requires as much patience as an extraction shooter
The game has a really bad problem with incompetent developers and project leaders who have shitty moral and ethical principles, and no I don’t think they are fixing that any time soon lol
Yeah, and furthermore this is like handling a hostage situation by giving the kidnapper everything they want. These are the organizations that put the current administration and its party in power. This is the exact sort of fascism they’ve been investing in for decades. The possibility that a corporation can twist California’s arm into violating its principles and maybe even its needs should be cause for alarm. This isn’t “playing ball.” This is flagrant regulatory capture in real time.
And this is why The Gaming Industry is in COMPLETE turmoil! Sheeple literally reward the most abysmal business practices. Which in turn ruins it for everyone.
If a dog was to bite your hand would you immediately offer it a treat?
Man, the comment section here is wild! If we would all listen to Lemmy, we would need to boycott: Nintendo, Sony, Windows, Ubisoft, Activision Blizzard, Pokemon, Disney+, Netflix, every other streaming service that exists. We also need to boycott Fromsoftware a little bit because for some reason a 40$ game is a scam…
It’s feels impossible to talk about anything positive in most of Lemmy’s sub’s. People here are calling people dumb and stupid for having fun with a console, while they suck off Steam that also just shut down a Fan Mod for Counter Strike and unless other Fan Games, they had approval to develop it.
If we would all listen to Lemmy, we would need to boycott: Nintendo, Sony, Windows, Ubisoft, Activision Blizzard, Pokemon, Disney+, Netflix
I do boycott all of these as well as EA (made an exception for Split Fiction), most fast food restaurants, and I am trying to use Amazon significantly less.
So despite all of the bitching and moaning about all of the “game breaking” features, the shitty little camera, the lack of original games and the price they still bought it. This is why companies keep putting out crap.
Exactly! Rewarding bad behavior is a understatement in this case. I grew up with Nintendo but as it stands they’re a disgusting corporation in which I want nothing to do with! They LITERALLY ruined Lives! I suggest every Gamer researches NintenDONTs dark history.
I had to block the Nintendo communities because it’s beyond infuriating how god damn fucking stupid Nintendo fanboys are. They do not listen to logic or reason.
Yeah, I’m not happy about the Switch 2, but the amount of cope is unbelievable. I’ve seen multiple people claiming, “the Wii U sold out a launch too,” even though the Wii U sold worse than the Wii on opening weekend. The sales might still fall off a cliff in a month, but breaking the PS4’s record for launch sales is not a great sign.
The original switch was a bargain too relatively speaking. My one switch outlasted about five or six phones I owned over the same time span.
It does kinda suck that it’s gone up in price in the new generation, but like… PlayStation 5 was also around the same price a couple of years ago, when money was worth more.
Your comment was removed for being an ass, stop playing a victim.
For reference, it was:
All you motherfuckers who bought this can no longer bitch about their prices nor any of their anti consumer practices You have the right to shut the fuck up for anything they do for all time
Was the switch 2 a successful launch from a monetary perspective: Hopefully
But people also have to understand. Gaming gets more and more mainstream every year AND population increases every year. Of course units sold are going to increase. The last time we had a console launch was 2020-ish. It has been five years of new people getting into video games and so forth.
Its similar logic to any time we see “Call of Auto 789151 is the fastest selling Call of Auto ever!”… Of course it is. If it wasn’t then that would be a huge red flag for the franchise.
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