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darcmage, do gaming w Linux users: Are we over-reliant on Steam?

I use Steam only for games purchased from Steam and Heroic for Epic, GOG, etc…

Heroic makes it much easier to manage games. Custom prefixes for each game with winetricks, mangohud checkbox, environment variables and so on. If the interface was better/modern with some sort of tabbed layout, I would use it for my Steam games as well.

TimLovesTech, do gaming w Linux users: Are we over-reliant on Steam?
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As the only platform that cares about gamers I would say it’s your only choice under Windows also. Unless you pay for boxed versions and then rip/crack them so your not messing with physical media constantly, but then disk space becomes and issue fast.

slauraure,

This is fair but I’m also worried about introducing a new dependency for a game that normally does not rely on Steam.

TimLovesTech,
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It is a bit of weighing the convenience of Steam dealing with your catalog of games, making them all just a download away, and keeping them outside of Steam and needing to come up with your own currarion method. And if you are buying (licensing it - because apparently nobody actually owns their games) the game outside one of these storefronts, you still have DRM to deal with most likely anyway.

Just have to weigh the pros vs cons.

slauraure,

I mean the only good alternative to Steam is GOG but there you’re not dealing with DRM.

SweetCitrusBuzz, (edited ) do gaming w Linux users: Are we over-reliant on Steam?
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Yes. However, before they started supporting and prefering linux, and working on proton then getting any game working on linux was a real mess and the average person couldn’t do it for most games.

Sadly most other games stores in the digital space like gog don’t give a shit about linux, thus there is still no galaxy on linux, nor are their preservation efforts coming to linux for a long time.

Lfrith,

Yeah, I set up heroic launcher to play some games from GOG, but achievements didn’t work when I tried it and save sync was kind of buggy. So for GOG just stuck to playing on Windows, since I do want my achievements and time tracked.

I wish other big platforms tried more in trying help escape Windows instead of just being bystanders and not even bothering with Linux launchers themselves.

muhyb,

Time tracking and achievements work for me. You might need to update GOG reditrubutables package though Heroic should do it automatically.

Lfrith,

Must have gotten an update since I last used it. That’s a nice change.

muhyb,

Yeah, it is. There is even a cloud sync feature now (though it’s still in beta, mostly works). Only thing missing is limiting download speed. Apparently GOG need to do that through gogdl.

SweetCitrusBuzz,
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Yeah, it’s sad that they don’t, gog really needs to get on it imo. Though have you tried running galaxy through proton?

I want that too, heck even Epic could easily make their games native to linux with a single button press but they don’t want to.

slauraure,

For the games that natively run on Linux I don’t see any difference in how they’re preserved. Haven’t encountered anything that doesn’t run on modern systems.

With that said they could get an easy win by making a Linux version of Galaxy and borrowing Proton to run non-Linux titles.

SweetCitrusBuzz,
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I have, sadly. On steam once the native linux version of a game wouldn’t run but the windows one would through proton.

However, yeah I agree, they could so I don’t know why they don’t.

henfredemars, do gaming w Linux users: Are we over-reliant on Steam?

I’ve run Proton without Steam for a few games. You’ve pretty much got the same code that Steam uses and most of their changes make it upstream eventually, so they’re not holding you hostage with being able to run your games. It just might get less convenient. There are other Linux game launchers that have good compatibility.

Steam and the company behind it have done wonders for Linux. They’ve given publishers a reason to care, they are providing strength and resources to fix bugs and libraries they care about, and generally have done very well in sharing their contributions with the community.

I do think this is a valid concern that we need to keep in mind, but I don’t think that we are at risk just yet. Valve is a business but as businesses go, they’re pretty cool.

notarobot, do gaming w Linux users: Are we over-reliant on Steam?

Yes. But there is nothing we can do about it more than party that whenever it turns to shit their open source contributions are able to stand on their own

bjoern_tantau, do gaming w Linux users: Are we over-reliant on Steam?
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Yeah, Proton runs outside of Steam in Heroic and Lutris. That’s basically what the umu project is about. I think it works in Bottles as well.

Almost everything Valve has done for Linux gaming is open source and will remain even if they go away and lock everything down tomorrow.

slauraure, (edited )

Yeah that’s kind of huge tbh. I honestly hadn’t read that much about Proton. Like that fact that it’s open source.

Just remember all the discussions from the early days of Steam on Linux where some were miffed about running non-free software. I then figured that it was a necessary evil to have games work with less hassle. The games themselves are largely closed source as well, so it’s kind of moot that Steam is also.

bjoern_tantau,
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Proton is mostly a fork of Wine which has been used for decades to run Windows software on Linux. Valve didn’t do all the hard work by themselves.

slauraure,

Yeah, well familiar with wine going back over 10 years of using Linux as primary OS with the occasional foray into getting my games running on Linux. Most of this time I have just kept a copy of Windows available for games though since it’s been way too much hassle getting things to run until the last couple of years.

Toes, do gaming w Linux users: Are we over-reliant on Steam?

You should be able to select “GE-Proton(Latest)” as your runner in Lutris. But if its missing for some reason, github.com/gloriouseggroll/proton-ge-custom

I haven’t noticed any major issues between using Lutris and Steam for the games I play.

henfredemars,

Lutris is definitely the strongest contender, and is mostly based on the same compatibility technology.

entropicdrift,
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Meh, I like Heroic better personally. It’s a preference thing at this point between the two of em IMO

SweetCitrusBuzz,
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Yeah, Heroic is good but sadly it only supports gog and epic. Not everything is from those stores, sadly. Whereas Lutris supports a lot more sources.

entropicdrift,
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It supports GoG, Epic, and Amazon, but it also supports installing games manually, which has worked for literally everything else for me so far.

I used to use Lutris, but in the last year or so Heroic got so good I stopped ¯_(ツ)_/¯

SweetCitrusBuzz,
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Ah, okay, thanks for the correction!

slauraure,

Yeah, it’s been at least five years since I tried Lutris last time. It’s probably matured alongside Proton. Honestly I started moving all my non-Linux games over to Linux after getting a Steam deck and seeing how well the games worked without tinkering.

I don’t mind leaving my Steam games in Steam but I would like to run some of my Windows titles e.g. GOG titles, Guild Wars without relying on the Steam network being up. Is Heroic the way to go?

swab148,

If Heroic doesn’t work, Bottles is usually my go-to for GOG games.

DoucheBagMcSwag, do gaming w Does anyone play Final Fantasy XIV?

Eyyyy I play too! Level 60~

Fearless Orchid - Primal

Edit: absolutely love the Slayers reference. Please tell me your Lina is a Black Mage

Geodad,

I usually play black or red mage.

I love stealing LB3 and verblinding the party. 😈

DoucheBagMcSwag,

My black mage is not leveled very much. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Sorry.

LB3? Verblind?

Geodad,

Players have nicknamed the red mage LB3 (lv 3 limit break) “ver-blind” because it has a lot of bright flashes.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Ohhhhh I see… Yeah I just got Freeze hahahahah

TwinTitans, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
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It was a neat idea, but just didn’t work as well as a traditional set up. Seemed more like a prototype than a full retail product.

ChaoticEntropy, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time
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I have mine, I used it a few times, I did not care for it. I can’t stand using a touchpad in place of physical sticks. I found it to be worse than a mouse for mouse needs and worse than a standard controller for controller needs. All just felt a bit gimmicky.

Dagamant, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I didn’t like it. I got it on sale and tried it. I just have muscle memory for Xbox style controllers and that didn’t give me any advantages that made it worth retraining.

Kornblumenratte, do gaming w EA Connect. How do I get in contact with a real Human?? Need Support.

What about Contact_EAHelp@ea.com?

UndergroundGoblin,

That’s what I was trying to find. Where did you found this address? Thank you!

Kornblumenratte,

www.ea.com/de-de/legal/impressum-swiss

I don’t know about other jurisdictions, but German websites are legally required to have some info including postal address about who owns the site, called impressum.

I think US firms have a similar requirement for the licence agreement? Not sure about thid.

Jakeroxs, do games w The Steam controller was ahead of its time

I was really hoping they’d release a next generation with some of the issues I read online ironed out.

Fiivemacs, do gaming w EA Connect. How do I get in contact with a real Human?? Need Support.

I refuse to even pirate their trashy games.

Toes, do gaming w EA Connect. How do I get in contact with a real Human?? Need Support.

If you ever bought a game on steam that went to EA you might be able to use these buttons?

https://ani.social/pictrs/image/82c4d13b-931c-45bd-bdaa-49d2b27853eb.webp

UndergroundGoblin,

Yes, but only functions with a 2FA Code EA sends to your email Address.

Toes,

ah bummer.

Does this page work for you?

help.ea.com/uk/solutions/?product=ea-account&cate…

UndergroundGoblin, (edited )

No. If you can’t access your email Address they are telling you that you have to contact your email provider. If you want to start a live chat, you need to log in.

Toes,

So I just tried this form. It’s not making you login to an account it’s just so they have somewhere to respond to your message it appears.

UndergroundGoblin,

I tried to use an email address which isn’t connected to EA but they want me to login to an EA Account anyways.

But I will try it again.

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