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Silinde, do games w What are some great open source games?

Helium Rain launched a few years ago as a commercial game with an open source launcher (BSD-3), and as of a few weeks ago the game became free on Steam. The developer is no longer maintaining it, but there’s still a small community that are interested in it.

TORFdot0, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

I’m surprised you could tell, I can’t find the wiki content beneath all the ads

crowHag, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of September 17th

Starfield, Fae Farm, and Icarus

mojo, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

Fandom ruined actual good wikis. God that site is so shit, why do people keep using it?

sebinspace,

Because monopoly.

Shit, Mojang used to maintain their own wiki for Minecraft, but it was dropped and migrated to Fandom and now none of us can have nice things.

ryapric,

I was about to reply and say “nuh uh, the Minecraft wiki isn’t a Fandom one”, but jesus you’re right.

bobbysq,

It used to be independent until Curse started Gamepedia and then got bought by Wikia.

bionicjoey,

How is it a monopoly when mediawiki is FOSS? Lots of fan wikis use that instead.

FooBarrington,

Monopolies aren’t defined by the availability of alternatives. It’s based on the market share captured by a single entity. We’d need to see statistics to determine if it’s a total monopoly, but I’m not aware of many other hosting platforms for game wikis. Maybe fextralife?

bionicjoey,

Yeah I think hosting is the thing that they’ve captured, far more than the notion of a domain-specific wiki. Of course, there’s nothing stopping an aspiring wiki admin from hosting on a platform that isn’t targeted at game wikis.

JackbyDev,

Fextralife is utter shit. Always giving you the most unrelated information in the longest amount of time all while being forced to watch a stream you don’t care about.

jjjalljs,

I use an adblocker to remove their stupid stream embed

Nukular, do games w What are some great open source games?

BAR is also nice if you like RTS games

potato_lemon, (edited ) do games w What are some great open source games?
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Space Station 13. it’s great.

rustyricotta, do games w What are some great open source games?

Pixel Dungeon, or its more updated and popular fork, Shattered Pixel Dungeon.

Randomized Dungeon Crawler.

Available on PC and Android (at least)

Kolanaki, (edited ) do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?
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If they’re on Fandom, it’s because Fandom fucking sucks to work with. It sucks to view, and it sucks to edit. So I could understand people not wanting to deal with that shit.

They’re also still new and fairly large games. Unless the dev itself makes the wiki, they don’t usually have much content the first year or so of a game’s life.

klay, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

I think part of the problem is just that there are a lot more good games that people know about! Unfortunately one of the tradeoffs for all the riches of heaven is that it’s a lot harder to cover them all.

Snazz, do games w What are some great open source games?

Open Hexagon is pretty good if you enjoy music reaction/arcade games. It’s an open source successor of Super Hexagon with several community made level packs. The only flaw is the steep learning curve of the gameplay.

nnullzz, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

I get that wikis cost a little time and money to host and run them, but the studios/devs should offer up a wiki on release that could be moderated by a combo of employees and/or volunteers. They’re losing the opportunity to drive community engagement and keep it all close by letting these big wiki sites it up all the competition.

ono,

I like this idea in principle, but in practice, I suspect the same companies that often abandon games (and even whole platforms) would also discontinue their wikis. I would like information about the games I buy today to still be around when I play them again in ten or twenty years.

nnullzz,

That’s a good point. Fan hosted wikis have the same issue unless they’re maintained and funded by users. Big wiki companies are becoming scummy.

I get not every game is on steam, and not everyone games on PC, but maybe Steam could implement something like this as I don’t think they’re going anywhere anytime soon.

Or maybe we need to bring back good ol printed game guides.

jjjalljs,

Steam already hosts forums. Hosting a wiki wouldn’t be a big leap from that.

echo64,

It’s a little money, it’s a /lot/ of time. And for what, what does a company actually get by doing it themselves?

nnullzz,

The company wouldn’t be the ones in charge of handling the wikis content. It would be up to the community like is being done now in other cases.

I’m mainly saying that it would be helpful if they provided the space vs it being done by independent companies/orgs.

cre0, (edited ) do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

PSA for people sick of fandom: www.antifandom.com has the same content on an ad-free UI

its a mirror of www.breezewiki.com which has a search on the home page as well as a list of other mirrors

NinjaYeti76,
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@cre0 @blanketswithsmallpox many of my video game related searches end with -fandom. Thank you for this.

sebinspace,

I think we hugged it too hard

cre0,

breezewiki.com is another mirror and looks to be still working

ShadowRam, (edited ) do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

Was it a few years ago Fandom started buying up all these wiki websites?

Then they started with the ads and it all went to shit.

There were a bunch of games that had to move their shit off Fandom because it was a mess..

Now when you want an answer to a simple question, you have to fast track through a some rando's 5min youtube video to get the answer, where they could have put the answer in the title.

Satisfactory and Path of Exile are two games in recent memory that specifically moved their official wiki's away from Fandom,

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Satisfactory_Wiki

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

HooPhuckenKarez,

Coffee Stain Studios seem really give an actual shit about their fans.

Summzashi,

Personally love UESP. It was there way before fandom and will be there long after.

Fedizen, do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

It does seem like we need kind of a federated network of wikis.

Paradox,
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The creator of wikis is way ahead of you:

fed.wiki/view/federated-wiki

ono, (edited ) do games w Game wikis just aren't as popular anymore?

It doesn’t surprise me at all that people have become less willing to contribute to wikis, now that the likes of Fandom/Wikia and Fextralife are the dominant wiki hosts. Who wants to give away their free labour and time to profit corporations, and have their work mired in cesspools of obnoxious advertising, awkward javascript interfaces, and web tracking?

I think what we need are independent wiki hosts. For example, have a look at bg3.wiki

blanketswithsmallpox, (edited )

Yeah I remember seeing an article about Baldur’s Gate 3 having a wiki being unique.

Simple fact is that hosting costs $$$. And you don’t get something free unless there’s ads involved or you’re so small you can cover the cost yourself.

ono, (edited )

Perhaps there’s an opportunity here for a nonprofit organization, accepting donations like wikimedia does, to offer hosting to gaming communities?

Edit:

This would not only benefit gamers directly, but also help with cultural preservation, which is increasingly problematic as games disappear from store fronts.

Also, a wiki run by a funded organization is less likely to vanish than one operated by a single person, whose circumstances might change.

JackGreenEarth,
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Terraria wiki is not a fandom site

ono, (edited )

I expect you mean terraria.wiki.gg, rather than terraria.fandom.com (which was the first result in my web search). I don’t love the fact that it has a google tracker, but otherwise, it looks nice.

Looks like Pokémon also has an independent (but not tracker-free) wiki: bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net

JackGreenEarth,
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Yeah, terraria.wiki.gg is the official site.

DrQuint,

Pokemon even has another wiki that’s almost entirely dedicated to game data, Serebii, and yes, the design is dated, and yes, it is also the most accurate and concise source of knowledge for the series.

AlexWIWA,

To help your point. Halopedia is still extremely active and will have info from new books within a week. The site has their own software and it’s community run, so people still feel engaged.

I think you’re entirely on the money

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