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Sunsofold, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Already transitioning. Been half doing it for ages. This’ll just be the last bit.

Wiz, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I’m planning on it.

I tried a rest run with Kubuntu on an old laptop I had, and it runs 95% flawlessly. My biggest issue is my new Brother printer that I’m trying to install connected to Wi-Fi. The system sems to know it’s there, but then doesn’t seem to install the drivers. My Android phone prints there just fine.

domi,
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I assume you tried adding a new printer through KDE? There’s usually no driver needed if all you need to do is simply print/scan.

https://lemmy.secnd.me/pictrs/image/bbe5d638-f4cb-4744-b35b-9ca1d134431f.png

Does it fail with both options?

Wiz,

I thank you sincerely for getting back to me on this. I wanted to let you know I just figured it out! I thought I’d document it for the next person to come along.

I had tried all of the options in that screenshot, and none seemed to work.

Investigating further, it was a Brother printer, so I needed to download special drivers: support.brother.com/g/b/productsearch.aspx?c=us&l…

Then, arcane magic needed to be performed on the command line: support.brother.com/g/b/downloadhowto.aspx?c=us&l…

I had done all that, but I still had a problem. Digging through the script output, apparently I had a bad “libsane” installed with apt. Also, to add to the problems, apt doesn’t recognize the string “libsane” now. We are to use its new name “libsane1” now in apt! So, I tried to reinstall and then reinstall the brother printer drivers, to no avail. Eventually, I had to completely uninstall libsane, and then reinstall it. And everything magically worked.

It’s so easy! 🤨

One thing to be ready to have is the IP number of the printer, which I was able to get in the WiFi options of the printer.

Whew! Test page printed on my test machine! I feel like this was my last major hurdle before adopting Linux on other machines.

Again, thanks for responding!

domi,
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Thanks for documenting it for future people! Glad you got it to work.

danciestlobster, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I would love some advice, personally. How big of an issue is this really? Like…do I really have to care if there aren’t system updates anymore? How big of a security risk is it actually?

VanillaFrosty,

Well the thing is, we don’t know. Maybe 10 is patched so well that no one is hanging onto a major exploit just waiting for EOL. Or so well that no new major exploits are found (extremely unlikely). Then so long as you’re just gaming or watching YouTube it doesn’t really matter.

But someone could be holding onto one or someone could stumble into one. And all it takes is one. So it’s always just a gamble with unknowable odds.

isaaclw,

I wonder if I could jail it from the rest of my network.

The problem I guess is if I dual boot, I wont feel like the data on linux is safe, and Id need to ensure I set up and take down the jail while booting windows…

I guess I should just fix the linux issues that make my gaming experience less fun. Maybe I need a fancier graphics card.

Ledivin,

In the short-term (0-6mo, maybe less): probably nothing really changes. It’s not super likely that anyone would be holding on to a massive flaw, waiting for EOL. Nothing stops Microsoft from patching after EOL for something major, they’ve done it before.

Medium-term (maybe up to a year or two): you’re looking at real potential to get infected with --who-knows-what–. Hard to say how long it would take or how widespread it would be.

Longer term: massive, massive security hole. Microsoft has probably even patched a major thing or two by now (despite EOL), but there will always be more

Thadrax,

Sooner or later the issue will be that some software probably won’t be available any more for your system.

beastlykings,

This is a minor issue compared to the security risks. See the other comment in this thread for a good explanation.

MrsDoyle, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

My (perfectly good) PC isn’t Win 11 compatible, so I can’t upgrade from 10. I’ve got Linux running on an old laptop so I’m thinking of installing it on my PC. Buuut a few years back I moved from Google Drive to OneDrive and so now I’m looking at Proton Drive instead. It’s all a big time soak, sigh. But worth it? I guess… The timing isn’t great either - I’ve got an exam in October that I need to study hard for and do practical prep as well, plus I have travel plans. It’s all a bit much. I’m too old to be this busy!

boonhet, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Linux for gaming and most other use cases, Windows for the one proprietary application I use. Although I suppose I might go IoT LTSC.

JakobFel, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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Switching to Linux with no intentions of moving back. I’m fed up with MS. I’m not settled on which distro (and I don’t want to distro hop on my main machine) but I know for sure that I’m switching.

pinball_wizard,

I’m not settled on which distro

I distro hop a lot, myself, but I always hear nice things about Linux Mint. (And last time I used Mint, I had no complaints.)

Edit: Folks here also swear by Bazzite for gaming.

JakobFel,
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I love trying other distros but I can’t afford to regularly be down a few days to a week to restore backups, which is why I want my main system to stick with a distro long-term. Mint is definitely one of my strongest considerations for sure.

Mio, (edited ) do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

I am on Fedora. But i still have Windows dual boot left. But I dont use Windows 10 that often - I don’t see the need. I just have it as a backup OS. I have free enough diskspace on my SSD so currently not doing anything.

pinball_wizard,

But I dont use Windows 10 that often - I don’t see the need. I just have it as a backup OS. I have free enough diskspace on my SSD so currently not doing anything.

I did exactly that for many years. And then one day I had something that called for booting to a separate OS, so…

my solutionTrusting Windows with whatever it was still made me nervous, and I crammed an Ubuntu Live USB into a USB port and booted to that. ¯_(ツ)_/¯But keeping Windows around on unused disk space didn’t do me any harm.

dbkblk, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

20 years for me (even thought I used Windows for a year in there). There’s no point in using Windows at all, unless you’re forced at work, or stuck because you don’t want to learn an alternative tool.

JakobFel,
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There’s also the issue of people who regularly play games with kernel AC, particularly with studios who intentionally refuse Linux support.

dbkblk,

Yes, but honestly, I find that games enforcing incompatible AC are often poorly developed games. The latest that disappointed me was EA WRC. It was quite good, but the gameplay was less interesting that Dirt Rally 2, for exemple, and since they enforced AC, they also started to deploy DLC, and destroy the game. The lesson was to never ever buy something from Electronic Arts (the last time was more than 10 years ago for me). And kernel level anti-cheat is NO GO on my computer. It doesn’t matter if the game is awesome or not, I disagree with the fact that a game company has root access on my computer just for entertainement.

GluWu, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Just waiting for daddy gabon to release steamos. If not I swear I’m going to just use the most windowsxp distro available. I thought I was being simple by going with mint and KDE. Dare me.

chronicledmonocle,

You installed KDE on Mint? Why not just install Debian with KDE?

Plastic_Ramses, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

No, I use windows 11 and it works great.

histic,

lol

Apeman42, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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Can anyone recommend a distro (and desktop environment?) that’s going to be almost the same as desktop mode on the Steam deck? I’m getting more comfortable in that than I expected to be in any Linux, and to my surprise and delight I haven’t had to delve into the command line at all yet.

offspec,

The steam deck uses KDE Plasma 5 as its desktop environment, so anything that uses that should feel very similar. I recommend bazzite if familiarity is something that would appeal to you.

Mogofwin,

+1 for Bazzite. It has just enough guard rails to keep you from (easily) making your system unusable while still providing more freedom than windows. Install is cake. Literally clear a drive or partition for your OS and storage, download it, and you’re off to the races. just make sure to always check your build against protondb For games to see if there are any special run commands to put into steam, and you will be golden.

offspec,

Yeah I can’t say I’ve used it myself but it seems pretty straightforward and very in line with SteamOS philosophies.

Mogofwin,

Very much so. Even for non-gaming, most stuff works out of the box from the package manager, everything else you can get working with a distrobox. Ended up getting blender to work better on Bazzite with AMD GPU rendering than I could on Windows lol

ivanafterall,
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Would I fuck myself over by putting it on a partition on the same drive as my Windows install? It’s my fastest hard drive, but I can’t just immediately give up everything I have on Windows.

Mogofwin,

I hav heard that there can be issues with windows updates messing up Bazzite if installed on the same drive. I got a separate drive just for my Bazzite install to be on the safe side.

daggermoon,

The most recent update ships Plasma 6 I believe.

Link,

That update is still is preview curently. The stable branch is still on Plasma 5

daggermoon,

Oh my bad.

valaramech, (edited )
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You can also install SteamOS which is literally what the Steam Deck runs.

EDIT: Disregard, I can't read.

Matt,

That is the old Debian-based operating system that ran on Steam Machines and is no longer supported. Valve really needs to remove it from their website. The version of SteamOS running on the Steam Deck is Arch-based.

valaramech, (edited )
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Weird, I found the Arch-based one once but now I can't find it. Everything keeps pointing me back to that page...

EDIT: All I can find now is HoloISO - which seems to be in a reasonable place, I guess.

Saprophyte,
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pathief,
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The desktop environment is called KDE Plasma. Every distribution with KDE will look and feel very similar.

Fedora is a good and safe bet for a distribution.

Minnels, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Installed bazzite today. Was easier than installing windows.

MellowYellow13, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Linux is the way

MellowYellow13, do games w 6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

Went to Linux a couple months ago, its freaking awesome, you’ll never look back. And it is way easier to use than people make it out to be. Also my PC has never been faster thanks to having zero bloat.

kazerniel, do games w Are there any games you don't play as it was intended to be played? If so, what game and how?
@kazerniel@lemmy.world avatar

Turned off the aggro on the patrolling demons in Murdered: Soul Suspect, because an otherwise peaceful detective adventure - where you play as a ghost investigating your own murder - really didn’t need the random stressful action sequences 🤷‍♂️ (Sadly you can’t turn off the floor traps, but at least those are stationary.)

Elevator7009,

Premise of that game is making me ask: have you played Ghost Trick before?

kazerniel,
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no, but it’s oh my wishlist :)

LiveLM,

The only flaw with that game is that there is no sequel :(

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