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xhrit, do games w Horse archers ruin every game they are in.

IDK. I skipped horse archers in my latest dark elves playthrough of total war warhammer 3, because they are so trash. No shields + large targets means they die really easy to missile fire, And since you can’t use a longbow on horseback they lack the range to engage other archer units without taking a few volleys first.

Basically they are only good for fighting factions like undead that that have no ranged units.

Randomguy, do games w Horse archers ruin every game they are in.

I like them in fire emblem, I suppose they have too much range in three houses but in most games they’re actually pretty bad.

Varyag, do games w Horse archers ruin every game they are in.

The age old conundrum of the unit that may or may not be strong in real combat situations, but becomes absolutely gamebreakingly busted when added to videogames, because it’s strenghts translate into overwhelming advantages with none of the real life drawbacks it had to endure, usually via game design, bad balancing or games putting said units in unrealistic situations.

Take for example anti-aircraft guns since WW2. Other than the obvious real example of the FlaK88 being turned into an AT gun by the Germans, several others of these become anti-infantry or even anti-armor rapid firing nightmares in war games, because they’re put well inside their optimal range and within threatening range of infantry and tanks. Which would usually destroy them from afar. The OTO Melara gun is a good modern example. Italian radar guided 110mm naval gun, was never mounted onto a proper line vehicle that was adopted by any country. But the prototypes, like the OTOMatic, absolutely terrorize every game where they appear, as a hyper accurate, rapid firing, high damage anti-everything gun.

Horse archers are just the ancient ages example of that.

FooBarrington,

So you’re saying we just have to add a “horse farm” minigame that has to be played every time the units are used?

lennivelkant,

Announcing the new “Royal Stables” DLC: “Marauders & Massacres” is sure to spice up your medieval farm simulation!

Artyom,

Um…archers on chariots were almost certainly extremely effective in any era they appeared. The main reason they stopped being popular in combat was because horses became big enough to ride after thousands of years of breeding.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Also because they were absurdly expensive for the civilizations that were using them. The loss of their chariots to Sea People invasions and the cost of replacing them is sometimes listed among the reasons for the Bronze Age collapse of the Hittites and the decline of Egypt despite their battlefield victories.

Kusimulkku,

And it takes a lot of time to train soldiers to effectively ride horses, shoot bows and especially to ride horses while shooting bows while also making sure there’s enough money/logistics to take care of those troops. Much easier to give tons of people a simple bow and tell them to have at it. Or spears. Just… spears for everyone.

mp3, do games w 2024 is about 75% done. Let's recommend the best games of 2024, but with a twist: only the ones with no paid DLC!
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Selaco (Steam)

It’s technically still in early access, but damn I haven’t had that much fun with a boomer-shooter in a while. The level design is top-notch, the music slaps, and the AI is actually good at cornering you.

They’re working on the next two chapters, which you’ll get when they come out at no additional cost. Also, the OST is on Bandcamp.

Zahille7,

I don’t know why you got downvoted, because you answered the question. I don’t know if they’re planning on making any DLC, but as it is right now I’ve played for about 6 hours and just made it past the mall. This is all still in the first chapter, for those who didn’t know.

ampersandrew,
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#4: No early access games, except for games that were in early access and hit v1.0 this year. Even if it’s a great game this year, odds are it’ll be a better game when it’s done, so I made this thread to call out games that are done.

Zahille7,

Fair enough. I didn’t read the whole post because it was an absolute wall of text.

ampersandrew,
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I thought I did a fairly good job of segmenting it so that it wasn’t a wall, but maybe next time.

phoneymouse,

It was surprisingly very good.

Carighan, do games w Horse archers ruin every game they are in.
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Chariot archers > horse archers

Caligvla,
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The Huns would like a word with you.

thesporkeffect,

Depends on the terrain

Landsharkgun, do games w Horse archers ruin every game they are in.

Horse archers are amazing lmao. If you’re throwing them directly into the front lines they will be fucked several times over. Understand: they are merely archers that can quickly reposition. This makes them one of the best units in the game.

Deploy them to the far flank and reposition them frequently. They are excellent at drawing out the enemy cavalry so you can harass them, hit them with your own cav, etc. Big block of infanty? Harassing fire. Other horse archers? Wait for them to engage your footed archers and then deploy your horse archers to double up on them.

Their weakness, as you’ve noticed, is large blocks of powerful foot archers. That is what your cavalry or heavy infantry is for. Once your other forces engage, then deploy your horse archers. They’re a reserve force and a force multiplier.

drunkpostdisaster,

That’s fine. But it takes so long to deal with them that it kills my patience

Tagger, do games w Horse archers ruin every game they are in.

It’s chess where I find they’re super op - I mean seriously, the ability to no scope bishops from across the map while moving like a knight is totally unbalanced and the Devs need to too back the update.

RagnarokOnline, do games w 2024 is about 75% done. Let's recommend the best games of 2024, but with a twist: only the ones with no paid DLC!

I don’t end up playing new games much because I’m such a deal hog, so this is really nice to read :)

garretble, do games w 2024 is about 75% done. Let's recommend the best games of 2024, but with a twist: only the ones with no paid DLC!
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Astro Bot (PS5)

Since my personal GOTY is already taken (Animal Well), let’s just add a lot of peoples’ here — it’s also my second favorite game of the year.

Do you like 3D platforming? Why not try the best platformer since Mario Odyssey‽ Help save your friend bots with a dozen or so hours of the purest platforming fun in…a long time, honestly. People have really hyped this game, and they really aren’t wrong. It’s pure fun the entire time. Everything is beautiful and interesting. No notes, really. Good job Team Asobi.

ZephyrXero,

Easily the best game I’ve played all year 💙

Mercuri, do games w What letter has the best games?

I’m going to start with my most played game and work backwards from there. So… K for Kerbal Space Program.

Maybe not the best choice in terms of number of games but I’d still get stuff like

  • Knights of the Old Republic
  • King’s Quest
  • Killer Instinct
  • Katamari
  • Kingdom Hearts
  • Killzone
  • Kirby

Probably others, but obviously not as extensive as a letter like S or T. Still I would probably opt to pick the letter with my favorite game of all time in there than one that just gives more options.

tfw_no_toiletpaper, do games w Day -7 (eventually) of posting a screenshot from a game I've been playing until I also forget to post screenshots

Fear and Hunger next

robolemmy, do games w Horse archers ruin every game they are in.
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The horse archers in civ 6 are so pathetically lame that the only reason to build even one is to get 3 points toward a golden age. The computer builds swarms of them, of course, but anything can kill them, even a recon unit.

drunkpostdisaster,

I am mostly talking about bannerlord and total war.

Knuschberkeks,

In Rome Total War they are really nicely balanced imho.

drunkpostdisaster,

Less about balance and more about them being fun to play against

Zahille7,

Would balancing not make them fun to play against?

drunkpostdisaster,

Not really. They still take a lot of time to deal with.

DragonTypeWyvern,

They’re pretty easy to counter in Rome 2, you just need to remember it’s necessary and not all-in on heavy infantry. Infantry skirmishers clap them right back to the steppes and there are good auxiliary cavalry options from the start available in Italy.

I definitely remember being frustrated when I first played it trying to chase them around with legionaries but the correct answer is don’t do that then.

Kusimulkku,

Wasn’t it so that you could wreck them with foot archers? Even if they can’t fire further (don’t remember if that was the case) having foot archer vs horse archer shootout was always really costly exchange for the horsey bois.

ShinkanTrain,

You can have a giant swarm of them though, it’s fun

Coelacanth,
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I guess they wanted a change after Keshiks and Camel Archers being completely busted in Civ V.

Walk_blesseD,

And in Civ VII Keshigs are once again completely cracked.

ampersandrew, do games w 2024 is about 75% done. Let's recommend the best games of 2024, but with a twist: only the ones with no paid DLC!
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Arzette: The Jewel of Faramore (Steam, PS4, PS5, Switch, Xbox X/S)

Arzette is a very specific joke for nerds like me who know too much about the history of video games. It’s designed to look and sound just like a Phillips CD-i Legend of Zelda game; a cursory glance at the credits seems to indicate that someone from Digital Foundry may have consulted on it to get it right. A friend of mine has a CD-i that he allowed me to play some time ago, and you have no idea how badly games like those play, especially on that awful controller. Fortunately, this game plays totally acceptably while still having a slight metroidvania angle to its 2D action platforming levels. It’s got a bit of a slow start, but after that, it doesn’t overstay its welcome, so if you’re in on the joke, you’ll likely have a good time.

ampersandrew, do games w 2024 is about 75% done. Let's recommend the best games of 2024, but with a twist: only the ones with no paid DLC!
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Duck Detective: The Secret Salami (Steam, GOG, Switch)

If you liked The Case of the Golden Idol and want more of it ahead of the launch of its sequel, Duck Detective is a miniature version of that that’s suitable for children and still fun for adults. I won’t say it’s quite as good as Golden Idol, and it’s definitely not as long, but it’s priced accordingly, and it’s a good way to spend a weekend afternoon.

ampersandrew, do games w 2024 is about 75% done. Let's recommend the best games of 2024, but with a twist: only the ones with no paid DLC!
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Penny’s Big Breakaway (Steam, PS5, Switch, Xbox X/S)

Penny’s Big Breakaway is a 3D platformer somewhere between Sonic the Hedgehog and Super Mario 3D Land, I suppose, though that’s not a perfectly accurate picture of it either, and it’s also got a lot of Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater DNA. You’ve got a yo-yo that you can use to attack, swing, or ride for mobility and speed. It’s very close to being one of my favorite platformers ever, but there’s just a bit too much jank around how the game handles certain edge cases with its physics system, and it can break the flow of an otherwise very good game. If you’re anything like me though, that won’t stop you from having a lot of fun with it.

mesamunefire,

I’m waiting for this to go on sale. Looks to be fun!

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