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Haagel, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Path of Exile is like Diablo for adults. It’s much more dark and intense in my opinion. It’s worth checking out because the New Zealanders who make it are genuinely good guys.

yokonzo,

It looks cool, the first one seems to be free as well

Donjuanme,

The second one will be free as well, it isn’t even in beta yet. All micro transactions (I’m sure all the visual ones, not sure about stash tabs but I think they would be as well) will be usable in both games as long as you’re using the same account.

Path of exile is a wonderful experience, I’d suggest watching nyxvellum on YouTube, he started playing path of exile as a Diablo 3/4 player, and has good takes both on starting blindly and using a build guide.

Don’t be intimidated, don’t listen to the trolls and detectors, you can play the entirety of the campaign without 2 clues to the game mechanics. End game you might find more difficult, but by then you’ve experienced a bit of everything and might be interested in pursuing something different from when you started playing.

If you’re going to start path of exile I’ll give you 2 tips, 1) get a generic basic super open loot filter (use one from the path of exile website and it’ll tie to your account and be updated automatically), 2) elemental resistances (to their cap) and HP are the most important stats, chaos resistance and damage being second most important.

It’s a wonderful game with a very active community and development studio.

jeff,
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Haha, yeah, free. I totally haven’t spent hundreds of dollars on the game. It’s over a decade with thousands of hours though. I haven’t really played the last couple years though, but that’s mostly because I have small children and a career

simple, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Last Epoch seems to be the most popular recent one. It’s currently in early access but it’s releasing in a week or so.

yokonzo,

Okay I’m liking the current class selection, still a little sparse but I mean it’s early access so whatever. But the reason this game is going in my wishlist is this one image https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/899770/ss_f9e078d5e422403bf14804d0220fa887f20fbfb8.jpg?t=1707861355

That looks so fucking cool

PlantJam,

Those fifteen classes are all we’re getting for last epoch. Two of them won’t be live until launch on February 21 (falconer and warlock), but there’s a ton of diversity between those classes.

FilthyHands, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?
@FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works avatar

Grim Dawn

actionjbone,

Grim Dawn is “What if a sequel to Diablo 2, but not Diablo 3?”

yokonzo,

Oh? I’ve only actually played 3 so I have no reference to 2 and what the differences are

mindlight,

Old timer here… Diablo 2 has a story with an atmosphere that sucks you in. In that sense Diablo 3 was a real disappointment.

Now, if you’re going for Diablo 2 it’s the remastered version you want. The game is like 20 years old and not made for widescreen so it really feels dated on a modern screen. Also, prepare for isometric pixel graphics.

loobkoob, (edited )

Grim Dawn also has a mod called Reign Of Terror that lets you play the entirety of Diablo 2 in GD, complete with classes, skills and items! It has some differences because it's built on Grim Dawn's systems, so it has the dual-class system from Grim Dawn (with similarly laid out skill trees), item affixes work like Grim Dawn, etc, but it feels great to play! And you can combine Grim Dawn classes with D2 classes, D2 classes with other D2 classes, or just play the D2 campaign with a regular Grim Dawn build. It's great!

EDIT: spelling

GroteStreet,

Omg how have I not heard about this. I’m blaming you for my lack of social life in the next couple weeks. Not that I have one to begin with.

Godort,

I’ll see you at the end of Act 2 when you remember what a fucking slog Act 3 was and decide you’ve scratched the itch.

I’m now just learning of this too and intend to do the same

ICastFist,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Act 3

Those fucking demon pygmies! Whenever I played necro, I always corpse exploded all of them

Donjuanme,

Thanks for this!

d3Xt3r,

Another option is to get Grim Dawn, and then get the Reign of Terror mod. It’s basically Diablo 2 recreated almost completely + some extra content.

But since you’ve never played Diablo 2, I’d recommend playing it first in some form (D2R or PD2) so you can appreciate the storyline (and the epic cutscenes) - and then play the Grim Dawn mod.

yokonzo,

Grim dawn looks cool aesthetically and I’m liking the UI and how big the skill tree looks. Are any of the expansions any good?

Drusas,

Absolutely. All of the expansions are good, but especially the ones that add extra masteries (classes).

Rinn,

All of them, honestly.

The Crucible is the weakest - it’s just an arena mode, but it’s got a lot of utility for speed leveling new characters + some QoL for existing ones.

Ashes of Malmouth is the direct continuation of the base game’s story, adds Necromancer and Inquisitor which are both very well-loved masteries, and you need it for Forgotten Gods anyway. The zones are a bit meh - great overall mood but you spend a lot of time in cramped corridors.

Forgotten Gods adds Oathkeeper (very fun) and tons of huge new zones with a refreshingly different vibe to the rest of the game. And you can go to this expansion’s zones from the start! (Except that you probably shouldn’t on your first playthrough, you’d get destroyed and you probably want to focus on the main story anyway.)

I’d wait for a sale and get them all if you like this genre, or just base game + AoM if you just want to give it a shot (and technically you could hold off on AoM until you’re close to the end of the campaign).

ampersandrew,
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How would you say Titan Quest compares?

toxicbubble,

i only played a little of both. i like titan quest for the story and mythology, but grim dawn seems more refined and modern, it’s actually by the SAME team (today i learned)!

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, that last part I knew, but I started diving into this genre with Titan Quest because the sequel is allegedly coming out this year.

toxicbubble,

forgot about that, I would personally wait for the sequel but the first game is cheap anyway

Davel23,

The Titan Quest sequel is being done by a completely different team, no guarantee it captures the same magic as the original.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

I'm aware, but it will likely be mechanically similar. If it turns out to be a Bloodlines 2 situation, I can always just stick to the first game and Grim Dawn, maybe V Rising. And all of that is assuming that as I spend more time in Titan Quest I still enjoy it.

Deceptichum,
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I enjoyed Titan Quest more, but that may be down to the less grimdark aesthetics. Gameplay wise they’re both fine hack ‘n’ slashes.

FilthyHands,
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Haven’t played it. My progression was Diablo 2 -> Torchlight 1 and 2 -> Grim Dawn

anamethatisnt, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Path of Exile, Titan Quest, Grim Dawn, Torchlight 2

toxicbubble, (edited )

this is the definitive list.

path of exile is most popular but has optional mtx(?)

titan quest and Torchlight are on multiple consoles. titan quest has a sequel in production

grim dawn is by the titan quest team, has a small file size, and runs well on older pcs.

glitches_brew,

Does Last Epoch belong on this list too?

toxicbubble,

I’ve only heard good things but haven’t tried it yet, probably does belong!

glitches_brew,

Ive had a ton of fun playing it!

PlantJam,

Yes it absolutely does belong! It’s officially launching on February 21, but it’s currently available in beta/early access.

Thorry84,

Yes! As a die hard Grim Dawn fan I can say Last Epoch is awesome. Grim Dawn is still better imho, but Last Epoch comes close. Both are excellent games one could easily put 100+ hours in and have a blast.

Croquette,

I just wish that I could start at a higher difficulty on Grim Dawn with the appropriate scaling. I don’t want to do the campaign 3 times just like old days.

Ketram,

Didn’t they just change the game with the last patch (still being updated, my God the devs are GOATed) so they you can play to 100 in any difficulty? I still imagine you get pasted in elite and ultimate if that’s your issue though.

Croquette,

I don’t know, haven’t played with that feature. The campaign with expansion is long enough that it was a pain to go through it to get to endgame.

It’s a good thing that you can skip that.

Ketram,

Yeah I’m hoping so as well, haven’t played since that patch. I got really burnt out spamming the story over and over too.

darth_helmet,

Path of exile charges for inventory QoL and with the ludicrous amount of different stuff that drops, it’s arguably kind of mandatory if you’re trying to complete seasonal objectives

bisby,

Its also free to play.

Or as some streamers say: its a $60 game with an incredibly generous free trial.

sadbehr,
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For PoE you consider 30gb installed (on PS5 mind you) a large file size? Yes it has mtx, but it is not once pushed or advertised to you, and none of it is required for anything. They does improve the QoL of the game however.

CoD + WZ is around 240gb I think. Most modern AAA games are usually 90gb minimum.

toxicbubble,

true, I thought it was larger for some reason

sadbehr,
@sadbehr@lemmy.nz avatar

Some years ago they pretty much rewrote the entire base game code (or some parts of it) and tidied it up, reducing the overall size. It may be larger installed on PC (I’m on PS5) but I can’t imagine there being too much of a difference.

TheLugal,
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The MTX for PoE are within the “nice” ones. There’s extra stash tabs, but you don’t need to consider that until after the campaign. And then there’s cosmetics. No pay to win. And the MTX are on your account, so they will be on PoE2 as well.

GraniteM,

How is the couch co-op for Titan Quest? My SO and I spent a ton of time on Diablo 3 together and I might consider trying that again.

anamethatisnt,

No couch coop on PC, so I don’t know.
There is 2 player local coop for Playstation, XBox and Nintendo though
www.co-optimus.com/game/334/pc/titan-quest.html

Mautobu, do games w Are there any games like Diablo but not Diablo because Diablo?

Yes.

yokonzo,

Truly a man of the people

Almace, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of February 11th
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I tried a couple of demos from Steam Next fest. Without writing up an essay:

  • Aden: Quirky game with reasonably difficult combat (when played in hard), cool music, and a story I ended up being surprisingly interested in. I was in it for the unique aesthetics and vibes and ended up being invested in whatever was happening.
  • Until Then: Lovely little visual novel set in the Phillipines (which I love, as most games centered around Asian culture tend to be Japanese or Chinese focused). The dialogue is fun, the pixel art presentation is incredibly good and even has some beautiful animated scenes, and there's enough intrigue and curiosity that really piques my interest in terms of the setting. It's modern day, set about a decade ago, but with a twist of paranormal worldwide happenings in an otherwise normal world.
TexMexBazooka, do gaming w What 3d Lemuroid racing games do you recommend?

Lemroid is a great naming for Lemmy users imo

HER0, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of February 11th
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I’ve been really enjoying racing in Automobilista 2 with several friends recently. A bunch of us went from using a controller to having a wheel and often a wheel stand in a short period of time, because we all got so into it.

I think there is a lot going for AMS2 (as it is commonly abbreviated): lots of variety in the cars and tracks, it is easy to set up casual races with friends, it is very dynamic (like in varying track and weather conditions), works well with a controller or a wheel, looks good and performs well, etc.

regitseroms, (edited ) do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of February 11th

Currently playing Persona 3 Reload

harcesz, do zapytajszmer w Janosikowe - Warszawa i mniejsze ośrodki
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A skąd takie info? Wpłacane (ponad) 1,5mld widzę w publikacjach, przy czym ignorowana jest np. masywna migracja z Ukrainy, przez co Warszawa istotnie traci względem realnych kosztów. Dodatkowo ma też dodatkowe cięte wpływy z PIT, ale szukając na szybko nie widzę żadnego info o tym, żeby dostawała cokolwiek z Janosikowego? Zresztą w zeszłym roku całość “janosikowego” miała wynosić około 3,7 mld zł.

dj1936, (edited )
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Z rozmowy Tobiasza Bochinskiego z Mazurkiem. Dokładnie nie pamietam - to może nie dostaje z tej puli; tam to brzmiało tak, jakby z tej.

Poszukać tego wywiadu?

*Edit: przekręciłem nazwisko

harcesz,
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Jak uważasz, ale dla mnie brzmi to jak zupełnie fałszywe stwierdzenie.

dj1936, (edited )
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Mi też, ale już tak wiele razy się zdziwiłem (np. W Polsce biedniejsi płaca niższe podatki niż bogaci), ze teraz mnie dziwi chyba już tylko to, ze mnie nic nie dziwi.

05:45 zaczyna się temat „Janosikowego”.

www.youtube.com/live/2oxFz96-nyM?si=A6nRarGZLW_wR…

Chwilę później Mazurek mówi: „… Warszawa płaci 1,4mld Janosikowego, ale jednocześnie co roku dostaje pieniądze i na przykład w roku 2024 ma dostać 5mld., co oznacza, że mniej więcej jakieś 3,5, nawet ponad, miliarda złotych, dostaje netto, to po grzyba płacić, żeby zaraz potem te pieniądze wracały, bo… No nie prościej byłoby zostawić janosikowe w Warszawie?”.

W sumie to brzmi trochę jak (celowa bądź nie, ale zakładam, ze jak najbardziej możliwe, ze tak) manipulacja - i to udana. Bo trochę zabrzmiało, jakby janosikowe nie miało sensu - czyli takie dość typowe libkowe podważanie sensu płacenia podatków do wspólnej puli przez najbogatszych. Szkoda, ze rozmówca nie powiedział wprost czegoś w stylu „Myli pan pojęcia i proszę nie wprowadzać słuchaczowi w błąd. Warszawa płaci 1,5 mld janosikowego, a dostaje…” .

A skąd później Warszawa dostaje, co miał na myśli ten fan Balcerowicza (czyt. Mazurek)? Czy chodzi po prostu o pieniądze z budżetu państwa? Jeśli tak, to faktycznie to brzmi, jakby za bardzo nie miało sensu.

harcesz,
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Możliwe, że dostaje proporcjonalnie dotacje tak jak wszystkie miasta, a janosikowe jest mechnizmem, który to wyrównuje i jakoś robić to trzeba. Ale nie mam teraz sił ustalać co autor miał na myśli, szczególnie, że pewnie faktycznie nic mądrego.

dj1936,
!deleted2556 avatar

Proporcjonalnie do czego? Do ilości mieszkańców? Do wielkości miasta?

To chujowo wyrównuje.

NigelFrobisher, do games w Street Fighter Vs Mortal Kombat

SF, and it was never even close. I prefer the Soul Calibur series though.

toxicbubble, do gaming w What 3d Lemuroid racing games do you recommend?

crash team racing ps1

CrayonRosary, (edited ) do games w Street Fighter Vs Mortal Kombat

Clay Fighters 100%

Maybe Thrill Kill as #2

TimTheEnchanter, do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of February 11th

Just started up Cyberpunk 2077, which I’m really enjoying so far! I’m playing it on Steam Deck, so some of the UI elements are really teeny-tiny, which is probably my biggest complaint.

SpectralPineapple, (edited ) do gaming w Weekly “What are you playing” Thread || Week of February 11th

I gave some attention to World of Warcraft Classic - Season of Discovery. It is certainly enjoyable to have a lively world with plenty of people interacting everywhere, but the nuts and bolts of Vanilla are largely the same. The slow leveling, the 1-hour cooldown for my Hearthstone (the item that takes me back to the Innkeeper I set), the fact that I must be physically at the dungeon location to enter an instance, and the demands for being highly social for a bunch of basic stuff feel exhausting. A lot of time I need people for group quests and runes, and the mere thought of talking to strangers is discouraging. I realized that, while I enjoy social interaction, that is not necessarily true for the majority of my playtime. Classic Wrath always feels like a good compromise for me – it is still Classic and the open world is still relevant, but it has a lot of QOL that makes it manageable for me. The Hearthstone cooldown is 30 minutes, I get my first mount at level 20 instead of 40, and the Random Dungeon Finder puts me in an instance automatically. Granted, there’s not a lot of people on Wrath right now, but I still enjoy leveling my character, leveling mining, getting ready for Cataclysm, and making money on the auction house. I found a nice wholesome guild, but it seems that most people are just playing SoD.

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