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bamboo, do games w Does the 2 hour refund limit on Steam affect game design?

I haven’t heard of the game but see that it’s going for $27. For me at least, buying a $27 game, I’d expect 10 hours minimum of enjoyable gameplay, which throws the free refund out the window if it would deliver.

It could be possible that they wanted to increase their game length to justify the price and stretched things if the first 80 minutes were tedious and slow. I’m sure there’s some consideration to front load the enjoyment into the first few hours, with or without the refund, but I would assume lesser priced games would focus on that and not one going for this price.

3dmvr,

gotta avoid sunk cost, I used to buy 30$ games and say if I got 10 hours its worth it when I didnt enjoy the game and wouldve been better off spending my time (which is always more valuable than the amountt of money lost on a game 20-70$) elsewhere

bamboo,

Right yeah enjoyable entertainment is my requirement, why pay for something and waste my time if I’m not having fun

Guest, do Technologia w What is an E1/T1 Gateway?

The off-road drive created a surge of excitement while the safari dubai tours peaceful camel ride brought a touch of calm and charm.

ampersandrew, do games w Does the 2 hour refund limit on Steam affect game design?
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Yes, the two hour limit affects game design. Based on what I’ve read about Blue Prince, it probably didn’t affect that one much at all. The business model always affects the game design. When games were expecting to be rentals, the first few levels would be front loaded with the best that the game had to offer, and then later levels would be more phoned in. In the arcades, games would be louder to catch more attention, they’d be harder to make you put in another quarter, they’d reduce downtime to get the next person on the machine, etc.

icecreamtaco,
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When games were expecting to be rentals, the first few levels would be front loaded with the best that the game had to offer, and then later levels would be more phoned in

Still happens today. First impressions matter, budgets are finite, and sometimes reviewers only play the first few parts.

imecth,

sometimes reviewers only play the first few parts.

Not just the reviewers unfortunately, games shed players at every step, it's why most games are front-loaded and fall off the further you get into them.

Maestro,

I always find it interesting to see the percentages drop on Steam achievements when you progress through a game. The drop-off curve is very different from game to game. I always wonder about the people who drop off just before finishing the game.

imecth,

I always wonder about the people who drop off just before finishing the game.

They probably don't want the game to end, there's a certain finality that comes with an ending. I've had this happen to me for a few games and books but i usually power through.

EnsignWashout,

I always wonder about the people who drop off just before finishing the game.

That’s me. It used to be common for games to have a sharp ramp up in challenge at the end boss, and I often don’t have the time to get through that.

So I habitatually abandon games when I feel close to the end, and I watch the ending on a stream, instead of playing it.

I realize that minimal research could tell me which games are which, but even less research finds me a decent stream of the game ending.

PapstJL4U,
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Yeah, the theory if front-loaded design is just reality of game development reality. No, D2 Ac4 wasn’t limited because of rentals - it was bad,because one year of crunch and still nit enough time does this to a product.

Halo1 last third is bad, because they did not have enough time, nit because they cared about rentals.

Game content dev generally starts at the beginning.

VanillaFrosty, do games w HELP! Im looking for a game like CIV 6 where the point is to go to war
elephantium, do games w HELP! Im looking for a game like CIV 6 where the point is to go to war
@elephantium@lemmy.world avatar

Civ 3 works well with a warmonger style

SoloCritical, do games w HELP! Im looking for a game like CIV 6 where the point is to go to war

Probably the Total War series is up your alley… sounds exactly like what you did in Civ 6… you amass a giant army and go around putting everyone in their place… and often enough someone shows up to put you in yours… also for the combat you can just select auto and it will just do the battle for you, ORRRRR you can manually do the combat and control each of your units (cavalry, swordsman, officers… etc) it’s really pretty neat if not a little overwhelming at points.

JoMiran, do gaming w Trending Now
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I don’t get…awww fuck’n-ell!!

knightmare1147, do games w What's a cancelled game you really miss?

EverQuest next

frog_brawler,

Are you playing Pantheon?

knightmare1147,

I’m not familiar, I was really hopeful for a lot of systems that were described in EQN

frog_brawler,

You might enjoy it - it feels like a successor to the first EQ: www.pantheonmmo.com

Thcdenton, do games w What's a cancelled game you really miss?
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Prey 2

hitagi, do games w What's a cancelled game you really miss?

Dota Underlords

EnthusiasticNature94, do games w What's a cancelled game you really miss?

K.O.L.M.

Auzy, do gaming w The steam deck is just great

There is also more diversity on the steam

At this point, 90% of Nintendo is just Mario remakes, and broken joycons

omarfw, do games w What's a cancelled game you really miss?

I miss firefall. It was very innovative and enormous. The devs were trying new ideas in the alpha all the time.

GusTheBard,

I never played that game, but I was about to… I literally installed it, but didn’t play it, and it got canceled and shut down very shortly after. (I was a bit out of the loop, I guess)

I still have it late in my Steam library, so I think about it a decent bit

BrokenPoet, do games w What's a cancelled game you really miss?

Chromehounds.

BrilliantantTurd4361, do games w What's a cancelled game you really miss?

64dd, specifically earthbound 64

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